My wish: There are easy-to-understand examples in API doc.
From another thread I see that the api doc is being automated, so
maybe this presents an opportunity to include a new meta tag such
as :eg or :example (to allow them to be viewed separately from :doc -
or if this is not a good idea
On 26 Aug 2009, at 07:06, Vagif Verdi wrote:
I fail to see how macros can be contrasted to static typeng. They are
orthogonal.
That is true in principle, but integrating Lisp-style macros and
compulsory static typing (as opposed to optional type hints) into the
same language does require
On Aug 25, 9:54 pm, Meikel Brandmeyer m...@kotka.de wrote:
Hi,
Am 25.08.2009 um 20:09 schrieb rb:
Here is what I've done for now:
(defmacro deflistener [ interfaces trigger-args body]
`(proxy [ ~...@interfaces ] [] (trigger [...@trigger-args] ~...@body))
)
Which can be used
It takes as arguments
* the list of interfaces it implements (currently necessary for
http://www.assembla.com/spaces/clojure/tickets/181)
?? You always have to specify the interfaces, no?
What I meant is that if I always implement SignalX$Listener, I could
even get rid of the
2009/8/26 Konrad Hinsen konrad.hin...@fastmail.net:
On 26 Aug 2009, at 07:06, Vagif Verdi wrote:
[...]
Here's and example of statically typed language (liskell)
with lisp syntax and full blown lisp macros:
http://blog.clemens.endorphin.org/2009/01/liskell-standalone.html
...this site is
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:43 PM, npowellnathan.pow...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 25, 4:36 pm, Christian Vest Hansen karmazi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I think he misrepresents both Scala and Clojure.
...
Not a super helpful assessment.
I'd like to hear more. What do you disagree with and why?
Quick aside:
There is now a doc directory in contrib, specifically for usage
docs. There should be more examples coming in the future.
On Aug 26, 1:18 am, ngocdaothanh ngocdaoth...@gmail.com wrote:
I think there are a lot of people who need to choose between Clojure
and Scala to study as a
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Michael Kohlcitizen...@gmail.com wrote:
The main problem is that I can't
seem to figure out how to use duck-streams to achieve what I want...
#clojure for the rescue. replaca pointed me to the documentation of
clojure.contrib.http.agent which has a nice example
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:18 AM, ngocdaothanhngocdaoth...@gmail.com wrote:
I think there are a lot of people who need to choose between Clojure
and Scala to study as a new language. I must say that both are bad:
* Clojure doc is hard to understand.
Have you seen
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Tom Faulhabertomfaulha...@gmail.com wrote:
Rich:
Glad to help, thanks for the kind words.
For Clojure core, mostly what I need to do is refactor and
parameterize a bunch of stuff. I'll just make a fork and start
playing. When I have something, we can
In the meantime this may be helpful:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Clojure_Programming/Examples/API_Example...
Thank you, this is very helpful.
* Clojure doc is hard to understand.
Have you seen http://ociweb.com/mark/clojure/article.html?
Yes I have, this may be the best Clojure doc on
On Aug 17, 6:17 pm, Adrian Cuthbertson adrian.cuthbert...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Raphaël,
If you're going to drive your app (and server) from clojure, then you
can use Compojure's jetty.clj module. This allows you to create a
Thanks Adiran for this information. It has allowed me to get it
On Aug 26, 5:29 am, Christian Vest Hansen karmazi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Another Scala downer: Scala is very powerful, some developers might
shoot themselves into the foot - I don't see how this applies more to
Scala than Clojure. If we want to talk about foot-shooting, we could
talk about
I didn't find that article particularly helpful, especially since I
was facing the exact same decision just a year ago.
For me, the difficulty of the language was the ultimate criteria I
made me go with Clojure.
Relative to Scala, Clojure is quite a bit easier to pickup. It has
less syntax
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:36 AM, David Miller dmiller2...@gmail.com wrote:
Clojure.Compile is just for AOT-compilation. It will compile whatever
libs are on the command line. As you state, it is used to bootstrap,
i.e. compile core.clj and the rest of the bootstap clojure code into
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Chouser chou...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:36 AM, John Harropjharrop...@gmail.com wrote:
What the hell?
The group actually gets a steady stream of spam, but it
usually gets deleted instead of being sent to everyone. On
this one I
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:13 PM, John Harrop jharrop...@gmail.com wrote:
This is important to know about for security reasons, also. Specifically,
if you are receiving Clojure data structures in text form over the network,
and don't set *read-eval* to false, you're vulnerable to a Clojure
This is important to know about for security reasons, also. Specifically, if
you are receiving Clojure data structures in text form over the network, and
don't set *read-eval* to false, you're vulnerable to a Clojure injection
attack. Someone could send you (+ 5 #=(System/exit 0)) as a
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 08:35:49 Konrad Hinsen wrote:
On 26 Aug 2009, at 07:06, Vagif Verdi wrote:
I fail to see how macros can be contrasted to static typeng. They are
orthogonal.
That is true in principle, but integrating Lisp-style macros and
compulsory static typing (as opposed to
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 04:37:58 Alan Busby wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:43 AM, npowell nathan.pow...@gmail.com wrote:
I mean, I didn't think the article was terribly in depth, but a real,
evenhanded comparison would be enlightening.
Reducing it further, I'd be interested just to
Hi,
I'm new to clojure and came from a Lisp background. While learning I
clojure I came accross the two different ways of creating anonymous
functions ((fn ...) and #(...)). I tried to construct the accumulator
function in clojure using these forms and this is what I wrote (this
might seem naive
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:13 PM, John Harropjharrop...@gmail.com wrote:
This is important to know about for security reasons, also. Specifically, if
you are receiving Clojure data structures in text form over the network, and
don't set *read-eval* to false, you're vulnerable to a Clojure
Hi,
Am 26.08.2009 um 20:40 schrieb Sourav:
(defn foo2 [n]
(let [r (ref n)]
#((dosync
(alter r + %) @r
One pair of parentheses too much...
(defn foo2
[n]
(let [r (ref n)]
#(dosync (alter r + %
What you wrote is #((foo)) which translates to (fn []
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 21:43:56 npowell wrote:
On Aug 25, 4:36 pm, Christian Vest Hansen karmazi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I think he misrepresents both Scala and Clojure.
...
Not a super helpful assessment.
I'd like to hear more. What do you disagree with and why?
I think most of the
(defn foo2 [n]
(let [r (ref n)]
#(dosync (alter r + %) @r)))
Something went wrong, I am resending the code.
Regards,
Emeka
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Sourav soura.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm new to clojure and came from a Lisp background. While learning I
clojure I came accross the two different ways of creating anonymous
functions ((fn ...) and #(...)). I tried to construct the accumulator
function
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Jon Harropj...@ffconsultancy.com wrote:
What does Very clever immutable datastructures mean? How are Clojure's any
more clever than the next implementation?
My guess is that he was referring to how the data structures in
Clojure are immutable and persistent
On Aug 24, 11:23 pm, wangzx wangzaixi...@gmail.com wrote:
I think clojure may mix both the parenthese and python-like indent
together.
This has been attempted about every six months ever since Lisp was
invented. It never caught on.
-SS
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This can be done by MSBuild directly without involving an external
tool like xcopy or robocopy using Item groups and built-in MSBuild
tasks. We do this to deliver final artifacts in our build system.
I should have some time in the next day or two to dig into the build
for ClojureCLR, I will
I'll also execute a CA and contribute back the require build script
changes as well :)
On Aug 26, 3:26 pm, rodgertq rodge...@gmail.com wrote:
This can be done by MSBuild directly without involving an external
tool like xcopy or robocopy using Item groups and built-in MSBuild
tasks. We do
ngocdaothanh napisał(a):
I'm new to Maven. Thank you for the explanation.
Using git-submodules and sourceDirectories is a good idea. Prior to
using your plugin, I use clojure and clojure-contrib with Maven like
this:
1. Manually download from GitHub and compile clojure and clojure-
they didn't know it was impossible so they did it :)
2009/8/26 Stuart Sierra the.stuart.sie...@gmail.com
On Aug 24, 11:23 pm, wangzx wangzaixi...@gmail.com wrote:
I think clojure may mix both the parenthese and python-like indent
together.
This has been attempted about every six months
Okay, I'm sure this has come up before. I was just wondering if
anyone knew why the regex literal doesn't implement IFn?
At first glance it seems like the following would be useful:
user=(#\d{3} 123)
true
This is defined as...
user=(not (nil? (re-matches #\d{3} 123)))
true
What am I missing?
its not impossible, it just isn't terribly useful.
On Aug 26, 6:04 pm, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
they didn't know it was impossible so they did it :)
2009/8/26 Stuart Sierra the.stuart.sie...@gmail.com
On Aug 24, 11:23 pm, wangzx wangzaixi...@gmail.com wrote:
I
On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Sean Devlin wrote:
Okay, I'm sure this has come up before. I was just wondering if
anyone knew why the regex literal doesn't implement IFn?
At first glance it seems like the following would be useful:
user=(#\d{3} 123)
true
This is defined as...
user=(not
On Aug 24, 12:22 pm, Laurent PETIT laurent.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
There's a simpler way : just invoke Run as clojure REPL on the project
node in the project explorer, and you will have a new Launch configuration
created with the name of the project (and it will, obviously, be launched as
java.util.regex.Pattern
I imagine a wrapper class could be returned instead that implemented
IFn and Pattern,
but which function would it call?
(re-find m)
(re-find re s)
(re-groups m)
(re-matcher re s)
(re-matches re s)
(re-pattern s)
(re-seq re s)
I don't think there is a clear implicit
Having this in hand would be awesome.
-David
On Aug 26, 3:29 pm, rodgertq rodge...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll also execute a CA and contribute back the require build script
changes as well :)
On Aug 26, 3:26 pm, rodgertq rodge...@gmail.com wrote:
This can be done by MSBuild directly without
On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:46 PM, Timothy Pratley wrote:
java.util.regex.Pattern
I imagine a wrapper class could be returned instead that implemented
IFn and Pattern,
Pattern is a final concrete class, so that's not possible.
...I'm counting down until I see an all-clojure regex implementation
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:18 AM, ngocdaothanh ngocdaoth...@gmail.comwrote:
I think there are a lot of people who need to choose between Clojure
and Scala to study as a new language. I must say that both are bad:
* Clojure doc is hard to understand.
* Scala grammar is complicated.
I prefer
On Aug 26, 9:46 pm, Timothy Pratley timothyprat...@gmail.com wrote:
java.util.regex.Pattern
I imagine a wrapper class could be returned instead that implemented
IFn and Pattern,
Unfortunately, Pattern is a final class.
Rich
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You
Listed as a downer for Scala: Functional programming can be difficult
to understand for a Java developer - same can be said for Clojure, so
I think it is a similarity but he presents it as a difference.
Wow. All the more reason for a Java developer to mess with it then! After
all, Java
Well, with a statically typed language this would be a problem.
What if we used duck-typing to get around this?
Granted, this wouldn't work for anything that gets passed to Java, but
the following gist would be a start.
http://gist.github.com/176032
Now, We'd still have to address Mr.
For instance, after having read odersky's Scala book. . . if you like
static typing and are looking for a new language, I don't see why you
would choose Scala over Haskell unless you have a strong investment in
java or really like the Lift web framework. Unrestricted use of vars,
for
Hi.
As I understand clojure.contrib.sql's with-connection opens DB
connection at the beginning and closes it at the end of each call. How
do I create a connection pool so that with-connection can reuse
connections?
Thanks,
Ngoc.
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You
Granted, this wouldn't work for anything that gets passed to Java, but
the following gist would be a start.
http://gist.github.com/176032
You already have a getPattern method for those cases. Which suggests
another solution:
(defn re-fn
Uses ss to construct a java.util.Pattern.
Returns a
We looked at Scala in summer 2008... we were very tired of data typing
in general and OOP (specifically Java).
We did not find any comfort in Scala regarding these aspects.
Concurrencent processing in Scala did not enthusiast us either.
We wanted a significant code compression factor compared to
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