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As Stuart Halloway points out, "all code is data, but all data is not
code". That said, I'd like to see spec lean as far as possible in the
direction of simply being based on data structures. By way of motivation,
let's suppose that I have a Sinatra (Ruby) server that is communicating
with Elm
On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 6:24:39 PM UTC-8, Jamie English wrote:
>
> I've spent some time over the holidays working on a Ruby port of
> clojure.spec: ...
>
I'm delighted to hear this. One of the things I've been wondering about is
how a Ruby API for spec would look. Could you provide a
Does anyone know of efforts to port clojure.spec to other languages? I
thought I had seen someone mention versions for Haskell and Scala, but I
can't find any information on this. FWIW, my interest is in having
elixir.spec and/or ruby.spec...
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of
runtime values. Most type systems can’t tell you that the things in v1 satisfy
the same predicates as do the things in v2 for any predicate other than ‘is
statically a T’ (Idris et al aside). That said, I have been thinking about the
‘parameterized spec’ problem, nothing concrete to show y
lapsed time: 294.832594 msecs"
"Elapsed time: 278.476703 msecs"
"Elapsed time: 133.259029 msecs"
"Elapsed time: 139.917267 msecs"
"Elapsed time: 137.444001 msecs"
"Elapsed time: 147.852057 msecs”
nil
The code now produced for [x & xs] style destructu
:predicate))
user=> (prn (take 5 (gen/sample (s/gen ::predicate
([:not [:not (:or "")]] "L" [:not (:and (:and (:and "" (:or "tQ" "s" "")))
[:not [:not "T"]])] "19f" [:not "8lC”])
spec works the same under t
7f4df262ce16ce87351a04
>
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 4:12:29 PM UTC+2, Rich Hickey wrote:
> Introducing clojure.spec
>
> I'm happy to introduce today clojure.spec, a new core library and support for
> data and function specifications in Clojure.
>
> Better communi
hat
> happens. The cpu-time wasted there doesn't matter much to me. Looking forward
> to seeing where things end up. Spec certainly seems really well thought
> through.
>
> Aside: Great work on the docs Alex. Much much more comprehensive and readable
> than is usually avail
This was fixed for alpha 3
> On May 26, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Georgi Danov wrote:
>
> I am trying to match sequences with fixed start and end but varying content.
> After lots of experiments I start to suspect there is either bug, or severe
> misunderstanding on my side.
> Here is one example tha
If you name (register) your (sub)specs with s/def and you can reuse them as
much as you like.
(s/def ::argi (s/cat :i integer?))
(s/def ::fnii (s/fspec :args ::argi :ret integer?))
(s/conform ::fnii +)
(s/valid? ::argi '(42))
However you are talking about calling ‘instrument’ so I don’t think yo
addition to (and alongside) paths. These overrides would cut across any specs,
wherever the named spec was used.
> On May 26, 2016, at 3:04 AM, Christophe Grand wrote:
>
> Thank you Rich, here is why I wasn't at ease with generating all paths:
> *recursion-limit* is documente
ed to write a parser,
you need to write a spec. conform will destructure for you.
We intend to provide specs for spec which can be used for these and other
purposes.
Rich
> On May 25, 2016, at 7:11 PM, Leif wrote:
>
> I guess I'm confused why the Clojure philosophy of "
Zh_s*3.x.sTxm9-E.NHr!?b5f0Ir2.u.+bof*-P.r.m_y**e0ntq.W+*.+?Urxe+Xp+/Q}
>
> #{:_Qi.Qj?dtMZh_s*3.x.sTxm9-E.NHr!?b5f0Ir2.u.+bof*-P.r.m_y**e0ntq.W+*.+?Urxe+Xp+/Q}]
> [#{} #{}] [#{} #{}])
>
> Reverse argument order to s/and and it works.
>
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 4:12:29 PM UTC+2,
an fn-returning function, *when instrumented*, should return
instrumentation-wrapped fns, I don’t know. I’d be concerned about tracking them
lest you can never unstrument them.
> On May 25, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Rich Hickey wrote:
>
> In my mind, fspec is no different than fdef.
>
>
quality depends the coverage and ranges of
your test suite (usually poor).
spec is not a contract system.
Rich
> On May 25, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant
> wrote:
>
> Rich,
>
> Can you talk about the design process behind fspec?
>
> What tradeoffs were in m
user=> (s/def ::a (s/or :r (s/cat :a ::a)
:k keyword?))
:user/a
user=> (binding [s/*recursion-limit* 2]
(map first (s/exercise ::a 10)))
(((:B)) :? (:+/K) (:Xc_D.__.+HC/JaCD) ((:*3)) :gJ1z.o.+?.lC0/!-ZDN9
:D.-?I.q8.z/-5* (:F67jy+2M.bB_.h62Cp+?._X?b6gv4.x+7.Gz_6.v9Tt15/*)
:!4J
actually better anyway.
>
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 11:08:27 AM UTC-7, scott stackelhouse wrote:
> Ok.
>
> Thanks all who have worked on this, btw. It is incredibly timely for me and
> is already great help for a work project.
>
> --Scott
>
> On Tue
Once you are talking about some cross-key predicate you wish to satisfy you are
talking about another property of the map itself. So, you can use composition
to provide further constraints on the map:
(s/and (s/keys …) cross-cutting-pred)
keys is not going to be the place for that kind of cross
Fixed on master, thanks for the report.
> On May 24, 2016, at 2:05 PM, Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Rich. Now it seems test.check is eager to generate very large
> individual samples, which sounds
> like a different problem.
>
> (s/def ::a
‘and' and ‘or’ are not currently supported in :opt
> On May 24, 2016, at 1:45 PM, scott stackelhouse
> wrote:
>
> I'm having a problem writing a spec for a map with some required keywords and
> some optional keywords. The caveat here is that the optional keywords are
> all or none... that i
And now, in the alpha release branching gens *are* lazy, so gen calls on
recursive specs are fast.
> On May 23, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Rich Hickey wrote:
>
> Currently gens are not lazy, so entire tree is generated. This is because a)
> test.check isn’t lazy either and b) we want
spec :as s]))
> >>
> >> (s/gen integer?)
> >> ;CompilerException java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> >> clojure/spec/gen$gen_for_pred, compiling:(gen_load/core.clj:4:1)
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ambrose
> >>
> >> On Mo
That one’s already fixed if you grab the latest.
> On May 23, 2016, at 6:37 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:
>
> On 5/23/16, 2:29 PM, "Rich Hickey" richhic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> fdef will not add doc metadata (see rationale re: not putting more stuff in
>> the n
On May 23, 2016, at 5:26 PM, Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Rich+team, this is awesome.
>
> Instrumented vars via `fdef` do not seem to add :doc metadata yet
> (which is advertised in the docstring for `fdef`).
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Than
I did most of the design of spec in a (paper) notebook.
The rationale tries to capture the salient driving forces.
If there is a specific question you have I’d be happy to answer.
Rich
> On May 23, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Ivan Reese wrote:
>
> Is there anywhere we can read anything
alpha, and some details are likely to change. Feedback
welcome.
I hope you find spec useful and powerful!
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> On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 8:01:24 PM UTC+2, Rich Hickey wrote:
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> briefly in this blog post:
>
> http://blog.cognitect.com/blog/2014/8/6/transducers-are-coming
>
core.async.
This is work in progress. We will be cutting alpha releases to help make it
easier to start using core's transducers together with core.async's new support
for them.
I am very excited about this powerful technique and how we all might use it.
Please have a look.
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On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Laurent PETIT wrote:
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> Eclipse IDE, has just been releas
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> https://github.com/edn-format/edn/wiki/Implementations
>
> (But there's no CL implementation listed there.)
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Links and monitors can be applied as well to channel-using processes, and
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Here, I went from 145ms to 85ms going from 1.5.1 to 1.6.0 master.
If it's the same for you, someone can git bisect and figure out what's up.
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lyzer does not harvest enough
information to resolve questions about related sets of functions, use of global
state, etc. An improved analyzer would provide leverage to Codeq as a whole.
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That looks stunning - congrats and thanks!
On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:18 AM, Mark Engelberg wrote:
> Instaparse is an easy-to-use, feature-rich parser generator for Clojure. The
> two stand-out features:
>
> 1. Converts standard EBNF notation for context-free grammars into an
> ex
with a huge entitlement complex and no idea what
> they're talking about.
Amen.
There's really only one thing to say to Alex about his conferences:
Thanks Alex for doing a great job! I appreciate your hard work.
Rich
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Name: Program analysis suite, based on Rich Hickey's Codeq
Brief explanation:
Rich Hickey, inventor of Clojure and Datomic, created Codeq as a
prototype framework for program analysis. It harvests multiple
information sources (eg, Git metadata, s
nth or so.
That said, there may be a way to release "raw" (Beta?) videos
faster, assuming the stakeholders (eg, presenter, conference,
recording firm) are OK with this. Alternatively, perhaps a
way can be found to let volunteers make recordings.
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P.S.
Here is an example of a locall
but now I'm back on a
productive path.
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sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream
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Has anyone here, by chance, been able to do this sort of thing?
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Ave TC MAX Station.
* Board MAX Green Line to City Center/PSU.
* Get off at SW 5th & Oak St MAX Station.
* Walk (~1/2 blk.) west to 550 SW Oak St.
* The fare is $2.50 for adults, $1 for seniors (65+).
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It seems my directions were for a different Marriott.
Currently looking to see if there is transit to the
conference hotel (Courtyard Marriott City Center).
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station.
* Walk ~200' East to NE Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
* Walk ~1000' (~ 2 blocks) North to NE Wasco St.
* The hotel is at 435 NE Wasco, just East of MLKJB.
* The fare is $2.50 for adults, $1 for seniors (65+).
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On Mar 13, 2013, at 14:08, kovas boguta wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Rich Morin wrote:
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>> I agree, for your reasons and others. For example, I don't think a codeq
>> should say much about _any_ symbol the code references.
>>
>> However, tha
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On Mar 13, 2013, at 09:52, Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant wrote:
> How useful is a fully macroexpanded AST to Codeq?
Let's decomplect this question a bit, eg:
* How useful is an AST to Codeq?
Rich Hickey's Clojure analyzer only harvests def* and ns forms.
So, for example, it says
hard would it
be to relate the AST to specific line and column numbers?
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You re
ther site is behind a paywall (as you would have discovered had you
bothered to look :-/). Clojure Atlas _is_ behind a (cheap) paywall; I
think it's well worth the money, but suit yourself...
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