Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-29 Thread Lars Rune Nøstdal
Looks interesting. It even has the issue tracker on github still enabled. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-29 Thread Sean Corfield
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Lars Rune Nøstdal larsnost...@gmail.com wrote: Looks interesting. It even has the issue tracker on github still enabled. The reason contrib libraries (and Clojure itself) have the issue tracker disabled on Github is because they use JIRA for tracking issues - and

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-20 Thread Andy Fingerhut
Andrey: I am no lawyer, but the following answer on this QA page about the Eclipse Public License suggests that if you take code from an EPL-licensed project (which java.jdbc is), then the project in which you include it must also be licensed under the EPL (whch clj.jdbc is currently not, as far

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-20 Thread Andrey Antukh
Hi Andy. A lot of thanks for this information. I was also researching on this point. Currently I have removed all taken code from the clojure.java.jdbc, license problem should be solved. Again, I in no way want to belittle the original work. It was big mistake on my part not to mention from

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Sean Corfield
To Michael: It is fairly up to date - there have only been a few small changes to java.jdbc since the last updates to that part of clojure-doc.org. Now that java.jdbc 0.3.0 has hit beta and has a stable API for release, I feel more comfortable about updating the clojure-doc.org pages to include

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Andrey Antukh n...@niwi.be wrote: Additionally I have copied some useful functions like parsing dbspec to URI or a map of protocol-cases and the rest are written from scratch. Looking through the source code, there are quite a few functions copied directly

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread gaz jones
Because there is no patch for human stupidity? On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Andrey Antukh n...@niwi.be wrote: Additionally I have copied some useful functions like parsing dbspec to URI or a map of

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Softaddicts
You have the typical profile of people who do not understand open source. To you, open source is the same thing has a side hobby, ... with lack of commitment and seriousness. How do you expect open source software quality to improve if each of us starts to spin off our own flavor of the same lib

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Andrey Antukh
Hi Sean. 2013/11/19 Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com To Michael: It is fairly up to date - there have only been a few small changes to java.jdbc since the last updates to that part of clojure-doc.org. Now that java.jdbc 0.3.0 has hit beta and has a stable API for release, I feel more

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Softaddicts
Gaz, excuse me if I misunderstood you, I reread your reply and it was not clear to me to whom you were referring in your comment. I still stand by what I said toward the op. Saying that if rewritten the code would be the same as the original is a lame excuse, it's the same as all that internet

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Michael Klishin
2013/11/20 Softaddicts lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca How do you expect open source software quality to improve if each of us starts to spin off our own flavor of the same lib ? Sometimes creating a new library is the right thing to do. I'll give you one example. When I started Langohr and

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Michael Klishin
2013/11/20 Andrey Antukh n...@niwi.be About license question: if these functions had not copied, but written from scratch, them would be the same functions with minimal differences or none... Sorry but that's a ridiculous argument. You must respect and obey by the license of the project you

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread gaz jones
Whoops, sorry looks like my intended light-hearted sarcasm based on one of the email signatures in the thread got mis-interpreted. Hard to express in an email, perhaps a cheeky :P after would have let you know I wasn't being particularly serious! No offense intended, or taken :) On Tue, Nov 19,

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Andrey Antukh
Is not an excuse, is only a opinion, nothing more. This opinion can not change that, mention the original author is right and I've done it. I have no way intend to belittle anyone. ;) Andrey 2013/11/19 Softaddicts lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca Gaz, excuse me if I misunderstood you, I reread

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Alexander Hudek
Sean, for what it's worth many of us do appreciate the slow and careful development of java.jdbc. When it's used so widely in production code frequent breaking changes are very costly. The new 0.3.0 API is pretty nice, though I have found documentation for it somewhat lacking. That said, I

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Sean Corfield
I'll address the java.jdbc.sql question in a separate thread (I've actually addressed it before so I'll search the archives and elaborate on my previous responses). Give me an hour or so... On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Alexander Hudek a...@diligenceengine.com wrote: Sean, for what it's worth

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Michael Klishin michael.s.klis...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/11/20 Andrey Antukh n...@niwi.be About license question: if these functions had not copied, but written from scratch, them would be the same functions with minimal differences or none... Sorry but that's

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-19 Thread Andrey Antukh
Hi agai Soan. Repeating now: as I said previously, copyright notice of taken code should to be present. And is my mistake from the start not incluide it, I don't have any problem for it. Now I have added a copyright notice. Yo can explain me that is a current legal problem has my library. I

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-17 Thread Andrey Antukh
Hi Zach! It is not based on any concrete version (is not a fork). Casually, it has similarities with java.jdbc 0.2.x because uses same name for some functions (in my opinion 0.2 version has better api than 0.3). Additionally I have copied some useful functions like parsing dbspec to URI or a map

[ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-16 Thread Andrey Antukh
Hi! I have some frustration with current official jdbc wrapper for clojure and I have worked in one alternative mainly because of: - Lack of documentation. - Philosophical differences of how things should be done. Documentation page: http://cljjdbc.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ Github:

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-16 Thread Michael Klishin
2013/11/16 Andrey Antukh n...@niwi.be - Lack of documentation. - Philosophical differences of how things should be done. Documentation page: http://cljjdbc.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ + ridiculous Clojure CA that keeps non-North America/EU contributors away. Good job, Andrey. It's important

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-16 Thread Brian Craft
On Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:11:05 AM UTC-8, Michael Klishin wrote: + ridiculous Clojure CA that keeps non-North America/EU contributors away. What is this? A link will do, if this has been discussed previously. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-16 Thread Michael Klishin
2013/11/16 Brian Craft craft.br...@gmail.com What is this? A link will do, if this has been discussed previously. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/clojure/CA$20/clojure/FlwqULYM7n0/x1-ArtQe1isJ https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojure/0gwjKtatf-0/discussion -- MK

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-16 Thread Michael Klishin
2013/11/16 Andrey Antukh n...@niwi.be - Lack of documentation. FTR, there is some documentation for java.jdbc, but it certainly isn't being actively worked on (despite not being covered by the CA) and may already be out of date. http://clojure-doc.org/articles/ecosystem/java_jdbc/home.html

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-16 Thread Andrey Antukh
2013/11/16 Michael Klishin michael.s.klis...@gmail.com 2013/11/16 Andrey Antukh n...@niwi.be - Lack of documentation. FTR, there is some documentation for java.jdbc, but it certainly isn't being actively worked on (despite not being covered by the CA) and may already be out of date.

Re: [ANN]: clj.jdbc 0.1-beta1 - Alternative implementation of jdbc wrapper for clojure.

2013-11-16 Thread Zach Oakes
Andrey, this looks interesting. It seems to be based on a really old version of clojure.java.jdbc, though. Is there a reason for this? Since it is a fork, it seems like it would be best to base it on a recent version, to aid those who may want to try switching to it. Also, does it require JDK