Jake
I am interested in the insulation possibilities for the icebox on my 35
MKII; may be quite similar to your MKIII. Could you please send the photos
to me:
d.ve...@bellaliant.net
Thanks
Dwight
CC 35 MKII, Alianna
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I would always feel good about a LF38 :)
IMHO one of the best offshore boats CC ever made. The layout is fantastic for
the on-watch to get below for navigation or whatever and still have the main
cabin closed off for the off-watch.
OTOH my boat, while being the old school design, would not win
Hi Andy- I have never been in a situation where I feel the need to heave to, but I feel like I want to practice it in less than extreme conditions next summer. Can you describe the details of getting into this state and staying there? What I have read sounds simple, but I doubt anything is simple
Years ago I had an offshore sailing program called Adventure Sailing that
was dedicated to teaching people how to sail offshore successfully. (Will,
from US Watercraft, who chimes in here occasionally was helping me for many
of those trips.) One of the main objectives was stopping people from
Heaving to is pretty easy to practice. Tack but don't let the jib sheet go. On
the new tack turn the wheel to windward. The rudder is trying to head you up
and the backwinded jib is doing the opposite, so the boat kind of just sits
there. Useful for making lunch or taking a dump if you have no
Hi
I currently use Progressive for insuring my CC 29. I called them to insure
the 38 Landfall and I was informed that they do not insure sailboat over 35' in
length. They did how ever added the 38LF on to my policy for the remainder of
the policy year (Aug) , but informed me that the
I am insuring through Gowrie Barden and Brett in CT. They have me at around
$700.
Andy
CC 40
Peregrine
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:53 AM, dre...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
I currently use Progressive for insuring my CC 29. I called them to
insure the 38 Landfall and I was informed that they do not
Florida is a much more expensive place to insure a boat because it is
considered to be in the hurricane zone. BoatUS charges me about 700 for my
35/3 in Annapolis.
Joel
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Andrew Burton a.burton.sai...@gmail.comwrote:
I am insuring through Gowrie Barden and Brett
I am paying about $500/yr for BOATUS.
I think it would double or triple if I moved to Florida :(
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
CC 35 MK I
Kent Island, MD
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Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 9:57 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
BoatUS is outrageously expensive in Florida.
I think they wanted 2K from me for a 10K policy with a 2.5K deductible on a
Bristol 30 in Fort Lauderdale.
Progressive gave me the same policy for $600. When I moved to St. Petersburg,
it dropped to $400.
The rates went way up in South Florida
There can be an issue with insuring boats that are more than 25 years old,
at least that is what I learned from my agent here in Halifax, Royal Sun
alliance is the underwriter and I am not insured for full replacement value,
more like the current market value, so if you can find an underwriter
I’m at about $800 for my LF38, with an agreed value of $50k (much more than I
could get selling her…). But that’s for Great Lakes and tributaries. It’s all
about location.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Feb 5, 2014, at
Andy — you scoundrel, you… :^)
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Feb 5, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Andrew Burton a.burton.sai...@gmail.com wrote:
I remember sailing in 10 knots of breeze off Victoria with a lovely
red-haired girl on
Very practical, Joe, but. no offence. I think we all like Andrew's scenario
better.
Rick Brass
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Barba, Joe
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 9:42 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List CC 41...offshore
Yes, 2,600 per year sounds very, very high. Boat US is by no means the
cheapest but by most accounts are extremely responsive and provide good
coverage. Price will vary significantly due to nav area and boat value.
By comparison, my 121 is insured by Progressive for about $800 annual (coastal
There must be a ton of them around somewhere after Sandy, etc. One of the
listers was parting his broken boat out, a search in the archives might
give a clue.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 4 February 2014 23:41, Kevin Driscoll kevindrisc...@gmail.com wrote:
I am in the
I'm paying about $600/year with an agreed value of 35k on my 32. Lake
Ontario isn't in the hurricane belt though and my boat spends 7 (long sad
cold) months out of the water.
Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:27 AM, j...@svpaws.net j...@svpaws.net wrote:
Yes, 2,600 per
I would guess you're paying the price for living in Florida. Rates in the
coastal counties of North Carolina more than doubled a few years ago due to
insurance company experience in hurricane country, and in addition
deductables were doubled in the event of a named storm - even though we only
get
I glued two inch closed cell foam to the under side of the top of the ice box.
I also drilled a hole through the wall just aft of the stove, and injected foam
into the void. The can comes with a long tube which I inserted as far as it
would go toward the port side of the boat, and practically
Hi,
Down in Georgia, the best deal going is Allstate. I'm insuring Take
Five (1990 34+) for $400.00 per year with excellent coverage and
reasonable deductible( Using the pay it all upfront and multi policy
discounts.).
BoatUS was about 3 time that..
Of course I'm inland on a medium sized
Ice block melt test.
I would encourage anyone considering this exercise to read Don Casey's book
This Old Boat. He goes into detail about ice box insulation, the best way
to do it, how not to do it and how to quantify what difference you might
have made.
Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto
On Wed,
I never had luck or need to be hove-to myself till last spring when a
broken fuel gage left us without engine propulsion. The Chesapeake was
pretty rough by bay standards. High frequency 6-10 foot breakers and
20-25kts wind. We had been running up the shore and, given time, would
have been
Has anyone put a hinged gate in the stern rail so that one can clamber up
the swim ladder and not have to climb over the rail?
I'm thinking this might make the stern rail too weak when the gate is
open.
Has this been discussed? Anybody bothered by this?
--
Ron Lisa
35-3
Mr. Bop
I've seen people add lifeline gates. It involves having the pulpit modified
of course (middle section removed). Yeah, it's a pain climbing over the
rail. I always instruct my guests to grab a hold of the backstay to steady
themselves. (split backstay)
Steve
Suhana, CC 32
Toronto
On Wed, Feb 5,
Did it about 60 miles off of Bermuda in a gale (30+ knots) in short choppy
seas. Had the # 3 up and double reefed main. We were bashing our way in when
we had to chill things out a bit for a sick passenger.
All we did was tack without releasing the jib sheet. Settled right down. You
think
Get a few of you together and have some printed up in plastic on a 3D
printer.
Bill Coleman
CC 39 animated_favicon1
There must be a ton of them around somewhere after Sandy, etc. One of the
listers was parting his broken boat out, a search in the archives might give
a clue.
Jim Watts
My stern rail has a lower rail and a gate instead of an upper rail. Yes,
its a pain! I wonder how much you would weaken the rail if it were split
with two gates too. However, I only use the ladder when the boat is on the
hard.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Stevan Plavsa
It would definitely weaken the stern rail both when open and when closed.
However, when closed it would only move a slight bit.
A lot would depend on whether your pulpit has a second rail. Most CC's
I've seen only have a single rail.
The easy way to add a gate is to cut the top rail and add a
Dennis,
The backstay is so close to the helm seat that you can't sit comfortably
when the boat is upright! If I ever have to replace the backstay I will
consider making it a split stay. Then the walk thru transom. Then
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Dennis
I have a 32 with a double rail at the stern and am thinking about cutting
the upper and adding a gate. My swim ladder actually comes slightly above
the lower rail when up where it tie it. My concern is that I have a motor
mount and a 65 Lb outboard on the stern rail port side vertical post
Another good reason to roll the headsail in enough to clear the mast is to
prevent a spreader from poking a hole in the sail.
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Muckley
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 12:17 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re:
Yes it was :)
You do have to make sure your friends don't go on with remember when you
and. stories with your wife around though. Danger of having the same boat
since 1977 I guess.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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Sent:
I have 1 inch rails, double except at the ladder where it is single. I
sometimes keep a 85 lb outboard clamped next to it and I have a radar pole
outboard to the motor with no issues.
Thanks,
Mike Fair
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Sent:
Thanks,
That is encouraging!
John
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Mike
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: [SPAM]Re: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain
I have 1 inch rails, double
Sell it and buy a 30-1. They come with a split pulpit and a gate.
Gary
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From: Ron Kaye
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 1:18 PM
Subject: Stus-List Climing over the stern rail is a pain
Has anyone put a hinged gate in the
So does the Landfall 38. Talk to Rich about buying his.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Feb 5, 2014, at 3:25 PM, Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net wrote:
Sell it and buy a 30-1. They come with a split pulpit and a gate.
Yes that IS encouraging. Sounds like a plan.
Ron
On Feb 5, 2014, at 3:55 PM, John Russo johnrussob...@optonline.net wrote:
Thanks,
That is encouraging!
John
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Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:20 PM
Offshore/International single handed insurance is always expensive.
Doing it with a boat that's over 30 years old is ridiculous. Actually,
the only carrier that would insure my boat wanted about 8 percent of the
boat's market value annually. At this point I only carry liability. If I
wreck my
Tankage can be over-rated. Watermakers are small, affordable and
efficient these days. I've never regretted pulling the v-berth tank and
converting to storage.
Despite a small 32 gallon fuel tank, I've never had a problem. I do
keep two jerry cans lashed amidships on each side. If I
I heard that cockroaches are good tasting little critters if prepared
right...a source of much needed nourishment on the high seas when the
cupboard is bare
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Bryant
Sent: February 5, 2014 6:30 PM
Has anyone used a product like the ATN genoa sleeve? I am considering if I get a new genoa, not having a protective leech section put on and instead using a product like this. Plusses and minuses? I have seen comments that they create more windage in a storm, but ATN is claiming it would be
Very important. It seems like every boat heaves to differently, using
different techniques. It's good to practice. Just heave to for lunch,
or to take a break. One time I heaved to to let a guest use the head.
I don't know what she was doing down there, but fifteen minutes later
about 20
John,
FYI, My 32 came with a gate on the upper rail from the factory. Hull number
1197.
Tom Anderson
CC 32 Nonpareil
Marblehead, MA
95 days to launch
97 days to first Wednesday Night Race
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Sent: Wednesday,
I make canvas stuff and repair sails locally.
I make genoa socks and put UV stripes on leech and foot.
I use a sock as it seems silly to put UV stripes on a high tech sail.
UV stripes are on the sail so you don’t have to think about them. Just furl and
forget.
They are quite heavy
There's one on the J-80 I race on. It works, but is a bit of a pain to put up
every time you go out. It comes down in about 15 seconds but takes a couple of
minutes to hoist it up. There's a zipper that runs all the way up and a bunch
of little strings which help it keep its shape - they
The UV stripe on my furling Doyle 135 along the exposed leech and foot when
the sail is furled is ordinary white Dacron sail cloth, similar to the cloth
used to build the sail.
It works fine in light air and it lasted 8 years before I had to replace it
(67 feet leech + foot) this off season
I have liability insurance with Progressive. You never know, I might hit a
manatee with a camera. It's $195/year.
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL
I only carry liability. If I wreck my boat I'm sunk. VBG
Wal
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Ox, a 33-1, has a single rail at the stern. The infrequent sternal ingress
is made below the rail. It gets less easy with age and increasing body
mass.
Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Ron Kaye ronkaye...@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone put a hinged gate in the stern rail so
{infrequent sternal ingress}
You Floridians will do anything for a giggle.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 5 February 2014 18:03, bobmor99 . bobmo...@gmail.com wrote:
Ox, a 33-1, has a single rail at the stern. The infrequent sternal ingress
is made below the rail. It
I've never tried heaving to - hope to test it out this summer gpfor practice.
Now I just need a red head.
Found this video - may be helpful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQTOfns6OjUfeature=youtube_gdata_player
Mark
On 5 Feb 2014 10:42, Della Barba, Joe joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov wrote:
No, you just need somebody to make French Toast. Gale? What gale?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPOL8C4FPdc
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 5 February 2014 20:49, M Bod drbod...@accesswave.ca wrote:
I've never tried heaving to - hope to test it out this summer
I see there are good ways to ease sternal ingress. As long as the outboard is
well supported it can only improve the sailing experience.
But in all seriousness I'm surprised that ease of sternal ingress isn't
regarded as an important safety consideration for MOB scenarios. Dragging an
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