Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Bill Bina
You must be able to unfasten the shackle on your harness with one hand while suspended off the ground with your full weight on it. That is not an optional requirement. Something with a lanyard pull for release is desirable, as you may be trying to open it with either one or two broken arms. I

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 to NMEA 2000 conversion

2014-03-24 Thread Tony Wroblewski
Josh, you are right, equipment is supposed to be backward compatible, but unfortunately some significant sentence structure changes were made btw ver 1.5 and 2.1 where checksums and a mode indicator were added and the # of decimal points were increased, so most equipment now will read back to

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread dwight
Bill I want to ask your advice on the tethers I use on my boat. I have several Wichard tethers similar to the one shown in the link below: http://ca.binnacle.com/p3241/WICHARD-TETHER-SINGLE-ELASTIC-ORC-APPROVED/prod uct_info.html I attach snap shackle end to my harness and the snap shackle has

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Andrew Burton
I use this WEST MARINE Standard Safety Tether Model # 8821464 | Mfg # WMT1-ADULT I even replaced the expensive tethers on my Spinlock harness with this. We did some tests years ago and found that if you go over the side and are getting dragged along at even three or four knots, chances are

Re: Stus-List Wiring

2014-03-24 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I have used both on my boat. It all depends on what type is available in the size that I need. If duplex is available I go for that. Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 6:42 PM, dwight dwight...@gmail.com wrote: it will run hotter in the sheath...that is sort of what I was

Re: Stus-List Boat AC Outlets

2014-03-24 Thread D.Drake
IN Ontario you need GFI protection on circuits *under *30 amps On 23/03/2014 10:53 PM, Rich Knowles wrote: FWIW GFCI's in a marine environment can be a real nuisance when they trip due to small leakage currents caused by humidity and salt etc. They are generally not required by

Re: Stus-List Shift cable removal 1983 CC 37

2014-03-24 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Michael, I'm going to be tackling this job on my boat this spring and my setup looks like the one in the moyer marine pic. If you have detailed instructions I would be forever grateful. Thanks, Steve Suhana, CC 32 Toronto On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Martin Mac McKenzie seawor...@rogers.com

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Roger Ware
Andy, this WM tether appears to have a quick release at only one end – I thought some of the wise heads had recommended a quick release at both ends? Cheers, Roger Kingston, Ontario Still several feet of ice on Lake Ontario L From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Ken Heaton
As far as I understand it, quick release at the harness end ONLY is what is recommended and that is what is approved under the ORC regulations. I can't see why you would want or need quick release at the pad eye or jackline end. Double action release so no inadvertent tripping at that end is

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Andrew Burton
I don't think so. You really only need the quick release at your end. Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Mar 24, 2014, at 8:55, Roger Ware w...@qed.econ.queensu.ca wrote:

Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 to NMEA 2000 conversion

2014-03-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe
0183 and 2000 are totally different. They cannot be interconnected without a device to translate back and forth. For one thing, 0183 is a one talker - many listener system and 2000 is a many talker - many listener system. Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I From: CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Boat AC Outlets

2014-03-24 Thread Brad Crawford
Edd, See the links below, http://www.hubbellcatalog.com/wiring/section-h-datasheet.asp?FAM=Ground_Faul t http://www.hubbellcatalog.com/wiring/section-h-datasheet.asp?FAM=Ground_Fau ltPN=GF53OEMA PN=GF53OEMA http://wattsupmarine.blogspot.com/2011/01/gfci-danger-something-we-all-need-

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Marek Dziedzic
Bob, As an ex-climber, I would never anchor using an non-lockable carabiner. And certainly not a wire gate one. The same Moosejaw has the locking carabiner like this: http://www.moosejaw.com/moosejaw/shop/product_Black-Diamond-Rocklock-Locking-Carabiner_10013002_10208_1001_-1_ or this:

Re: Stus-List Boat AC Outlets

2014-03-24 Thread Marek Dziedzic
If in doubt, read Main Sails web page http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/boat_projects or his Forum at SailboatOwners.com (http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/forumdisplay.php?f=135). A lot of quite useful information (maybe not as good as on this list, but close (;-)). Marek -

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread dreuge
Hi, While I favor Stearns SOSP tethers, marine part depot has cheap tethers for $27. I have seen these in hand, and they seem fairly robust. Maybe someone has some experience with these? http://www.marinepartdepot.com/tewihoandfie.html - Paul E. 1979 CC 29 Mk1 S/V Johanna Rose

Re: Stus-List Boat AC Outlets

2014-03-24 Thread Bill Coleman
I tried adding new GFI's on my AC where it comes in, and ended up removing them because of nuisance tripping . I was told that on one side it was the Charger - apparently the transformer takes a millisecond to load, and that caused constant tripping, and the other side maybe needed new wiring.

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Joel Aronson
The Defender sale starts on the 27th. It hurts less when its on sale. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Bill Coleman colt...@verizon.net wrote: Bob, Save yourself a lot of anguish, close your eyes and just buy the tethers made for the job. It only hurts once, when

Re: Stus-List Wiring

2014-03-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I suspect CC got a deal way back in the day on 16 gauge untinned rolls of copper wire. That seems to have been what all the old boats were wired with whether they needed it or not. Now in 2014 most boat builders would have rolls of tinned duplex sitting around. It really is a style issue more

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Bill Coleman
Bob, Save yourself a lot of anguish, close your eyes and just buy the tethers made for the job. It only hurts once, when you enter the credit card number. The boat ends are made to prevent accidental openings with two finger operation. And the releasable snapshackle is important. These

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Joel Aronson
I see several problems with them. There is only 1 end, so you cannot stay clipped in as you move about, there is no elastic and the carabiner can open accidently. Joel On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM, dre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, While I favor Stearns SOSP tethers, marine part depot has

Re: Stus-List Spring Projects

2014-03-24 Thread Bob Dryer
My spring project is to sell my 1984 C+C 29 mkll now on the hard at City Island, New York. Details can be found on sailing Texas. Bob Dryer bobdr...@comcast.net ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Kevin Driscoll
We just bought a few of these to comply with rules for the Oregon offshore race. Price seemed reasonably. This is not something to diy IMO. http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=226846engine=adwords!6456keyword=product_adtype=pla Sent from a mobile device. On Mar 24,

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Joel Aronson
That's a GREAT price! I may order one for my extra inflatable. Joel On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Kevin Driscoll kevindrisc...@gmail.comwrote: We just bought a few of these to comply with rules for the Oregon offshore race. Price seemed reasonably. This is not something to diy IMO.

Re: Stus-List Boat AC Outlets

2014-03-24 Thread Della Barba, Joe
For an entire boat these things are what is suggested: http://www.bluesea.com/products/category/Circuit_Breakers/ELCI_and_GFCI Were you using these or a home GFCI? Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014

Re: Stus-List Boat AC Outlets

2014-03-24 Thread Rich Knowles
But not all circuits. Rich On Mar 24, 2014, at 9:33, D.Drake d...@rogers.com wrote: IN Ontario you need GFI protection on circuits under 30 amps On 23/03/2014 10:53 PM, Rich Knowles wrote: FWIW GFCI's in a marine environment can be a real nuisance when they trip due to small

Re: Stus-List Boat AC Outlets

2014-03-24 Thread Rich Knowles
The only place you need a GFCI is for outlets. Water heaters and chargers are notorious for nuisance trips. Rich On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:42, Bill Coleman colt...@verizon.net wrote: I tried adding new GFI’s on my AC where it comes in, and ended up removing them because of nuisance tripping

Stus-List # of keel bolts on 37 CC 1985

2014-03-24 Thread Www.chartermi.net
in total how many keel bolts on a 1985 37. is there one forward of the mast step under the floor boards. leaked last year and now is supported out of the water on cradle stands and keel dropped about a 3/16 of an inch. need to set back down on keel and tighten ALL bolts. Jon Tssker Ghost Rider

Re: Stus-List # of keel bolts on 37 CC 1985

2014-03-24 Thread Dave Godwin
The number you can see plus one. Under the mast… Best, Dave Godwin 1982 CC 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Www.chartermi.net barband...@chartermi.net wrote: in total how many keel bolts on a 1985 37. is there one forward of the mast

Re: Stus-List Boat AC Outlets

2014-03-24 Thread Joel Aronson
GFI outlets don't fit in the junction boxes on my boat. I hope you don't have the same problem! Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Rich Knowles r...@sailpower.ca wrote: The only place you need a GFCI is for outlets. Water heaters and chargers are notorious for nuisance

Re: Stus-List Boat AC Outlets

2014-03-24 Thread Bill Coleman
More like this. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Square-D-by-Schneider-Electric-Homeline-20-Amp-2- in-Two-Pole-GFCI-Circuit-Breaker-HOM220GFIC/204355351?MERCH=REC-_-product-4- _-100128763-_-204355351-_-N I think I'll just put them downstream as Rich suggests. Thanks, Bill Coleman CC 39

Re: Stus-List Boat AC Outlets

2014-03-24 Thread Gary Nylander
Apparently one of the PO's on my boat had the wiring re-done. Looks very professional. It has separate AC and DC panels which was not original. Whomever did it put the GFI in the first AC outlet in the cabin, and wired the hot water heater and battery charger on separate circuits directly from

Re: Stus-List Wiring

2014-03-24 Thread David Knecht
I did not expect such an extensive discussion from such a simple question which I thought was perhaps idiotic to post. Great information as always. Can someone clarify the wire charts on the CC page? They have length in feet running on both axes so I don’t understand what the two different

Re: Stus-List Wiring

2014-03-24 Thread Joel Aronson
David, Looks like it is mislabelled. Amps across the top line, length down the left column. Table C - 15 feet @ 30 amps = 8 gauge wire. Joel On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 3:30 PM, David Knecht davidakne...@gmail.comwrote: I did not expect such an extensive discussion from such a simple question

Re: Stus-List Shift cable removal 1983 CC 37

2014-03-24 Thread Michael Brown
Will do. Likely have some time in the next few days. Mike Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 08:38:56 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa stevanpla...@gmail.com To: Martin Mac McKenzie seawor...@rogers.com,     cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Shift cable removal 1983 CC 37

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Rick Brass
Bob, I have to comment: It's your life we're talking about here. That said, you need to use carabiners on the jack line ends of the tether that need two motions to open them. Otherwise you can twist the tether when moving around and it will release by itself. The attachment to your harness

Re: Stus-List Wiring

2014-03-24 Thread Leslie Paal
One thing to also consider, the twin wire will get hotter than two single wires of same gauge and load. Should not be an issue if the wire is sized generously, it can be an issue if 'just enough' and used with prolonged load time. Leslie Phoenix, CC32

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Rick Brass
This one is inexpensive and probably better that one that is home made, but it also has deficiencies. A single leg means you need to unclip almost every time you move. The hook can come open by accident, unlike one that needs two motions. And the 6' strap might trip you. Rick Brass Sent from

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Rick Brass
This looks to be almost exactly like the Spinlock tether I like so much. And it is a lot less expensive. I may need to buy one or two for guests on the boat. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:09, Kevin Driscoll kevindrisc...@gmail.com wrote: We just bought a few of these

Re: Stus-List Impeller/gear puller

2014-03-24 Thread Wally Bryant
I have one of the aforementioned impeller pullers, but it doesn't work with my current pump. I still have it, because it doesn't weigh that much and you never know... (a puller's a puller.) As someone said, what pump do you have? Basically, I figure if I'm going to inspect the impeller I

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Don Siddall
My tether is not elasticed. To stop it from dangling and catching on winches etc., I sewed a metal ring in the tether to which I clip the hook after wrapping it once around my body. It works fine for me. Don ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo

Re: Stus-List Wiring

2014-03-24 Thread Wally Bryant
David - I have totally rewired my boat, and used sheathed duplex (or triplex) throughout. I mean, there is not a single wire or connection on this boat that I haven't replaced. Trying to emulate original construction is context sensitive. Many of our boats were built in phases, which means

Re: Stus-List Boat AC Outlets

2014-03-24 Thread Wally Bryant
I bought mine at Home Depot and they have worked fine for ten years. Ken Heaton wrote: I really don't think there is such a thing as a marine GFI ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Wally Bryant
Hmm. Well, I guess I'm dead. you wrote: You must be able to unfasten the shackle on your harness with one hand while suspended off the ground with your full weight on it ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com

Stus-List 1986 33MKII

2014-03-24 Thread Terry pearson
On my 33MKII mast, the previous owner placed a nylon (or similar)slide in the mast track. I want to remove the slide track and go back to the original sail slides for this mast, but I cant seem to find anything telling me the proper size. the track appears to be able to accommodate either round

Stus-List Bottom Paint Question

2014-03-24 Thread Brian Morrison
The weather has finally broken here in lovely Baltimore and it's time to paint the bottom. The staff at the boatyard told me that the previous owner had baltaplate paint and then painted over it with a different type of paint. The paint is peeling in some areas and they suggest sanding down to

Re: Stus-List Bottom Paint Question

2014-03-24 Thread John and Maryann Read
Blasting by a professional - they usually use walnut shells or the like. Tent the bottom, blast away, clean it all up. Typical cost for a 34 footer is about $1200. Well worth it because it takes them a day to do it and how long will it take you and what will you have to pay your chiropractor??

Re: Stus-List Bottom Paint Question

2014-03-24 Thread Slawomir Woronkowicz
soda blasting! Good Luck SFW Sent from my iPad On Mar 24, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Brian Morrison brianm...@hotmail.com wrote: The weather has finally broken here in lovely Baltimore and it's time to paint the bottom. The staff at the boatyard told me that the previous owner had baltaplate

Re: Stus-List Bottom Paint Question

2014-03-24 Thread Dennis C.
I sanded the bottom on Touché down to gelcoat/matte coat a couple years ago. I was able to because I'm both retired and knowledgeable about boat work. If not, I would have had it professionally soda blasted. Sanding the bottom may sound straightforward but requires experience and touch. It

Re: Stus-List Bottom Paint Question

2014-03-24 Thread Brian Morrison
Thanks. The yard gave me an estimate of about $2000. Dr. Brian C. Morrison On Mar 24, 2014, at 9:37 PM, John and Maryann Read johnpr...@comcast.net wrote: Blasting by a professional - they usually use walnut shells or the like. Tent the bottom, blast away, clean it all up. Typical cost

Re: Stus-List : winch replacement

2014-03-24 Thread Jim Watts
I make weird moaning sounds and cry a lot, it works for me. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 23 March 2014 22:15, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net wrote: Wow, Jim. I can learn a few things from you... I can't make my wife, Melody, do anything. It gets done 'cause she

Re: Stus-List Bottom Paint Question

2014-03-24 Thread Michael Cotton
Add more Baltaplate. Mike Cotton On Monday, March 24, 2014 7:39 PM, Slawomir Woronkowicz fworonkow...@gmail.com wrote: soda blasting! Good Luck SFW Sent from my iPad On Mar 24, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Brian Morrison brianm...@hotmail.com wrote: The weather has finally broken here in lovely

Re: Stus-List Cheaper Tether

2014-03-24 Thread Russ Melody
Yup. Me too, but for different reasons... I spliced my own tether outta Amsteel and have a locking carbiner on the belay instead of using one of the fancy store bought and approved units everyone seems to rave about. On the other hand it is a marked improvement over our very first harness

Re: Stus-List : winch replacement

2014-03-24 Thread Russ Melody
Oh. You mean foreplay?! At 09:06 PM 24/03/2014, you wrote: I make weird moaning sounds and cry a lot, it works for me. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 23 March 2014 22:15, Russ Melody mailto:russ...@telus.netruss...@telus.net wrote: Wow, Jim. I can learn a