Interesting discussion on sail selection. And that is a broad subject.
What kind of racing?
While I have retired from racing, I clearly remember racing with a sail
inventory4 head sails (150% light and heavy air...#1, 135%...#2, and
a 100%..#3), 2 spinnakers (systematical 3/4 oz. and a 1
Hello all listers.
I have a hypothetical for the racers among you.
I need to replace my 3DL headsail--its mostly patches after ~ 5 years of club
racing locally. This is about my 3rd laminate style headsail---and my last!
I am probably going with the North 3D Nordac which has replaced the former
Question to the group.
I am getting a new set of cruising sails for our 40. My choice is going to be
between Doyle or Quantum. I have had Doyle sail before and their service and
quality were great. Made in St.Pete Fl. right up the road. 100 miles. Quantum
sails with almost identical specs com
OK--my 5 yr old 3Di North 155 head sail is almost dead--especially after a tear
along the foot during a race on Halloween.
I think I want to go with a non-laminate sail (their life locally seems to be
around 5 years in my use of them) and since I mostly club-race and maybe CRW, I
am not going wi
8:24 -0500
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David,
We have sails on order with the UK loft
I had very good luck with a Nordac main from North on my 34. After 8 years
still had lots of life left in
it and held shape. Perhaps the cloth is different now?
Speaking of sails I still have 2 really nice jibs from my 1982 C&C 34. Went
on a harken roller. made for the boat
by North Sails
135
the
measurements.
Charlie NelsonWater PhantomC&C 36 XL/kcb
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Sent: Wed, Jan 15, 2020 7:25 pm
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David
I have a Hood Vectron main that I bought for racing in 2007. I
hey are too
> expensive and have gotten too big for “regular” sailors like me.
>
> Matt Wolford
> C&C 42 Custom
>
> *From:* schiller via CnC-List
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>> David,
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>> We have sails on order wit
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David,
We have sails on order with the UK loft for spring delivery for our C&C 35-3.
UK is building a 140% Genoa of 7.3 oz high modulus dacron with a foam luff, UV
sun shield, sail numbers and tell tail windows. The main i
I just bought a new main from evolution sails. It's a kiwi based company
but their local rep in Chicago really took his time to work through things.
Was less than quantum but more than precision for a similar sail. I got a
racing laminate from their element line for my 35-3 but they also offer
whit
David,
We have sails on order with the UK loft for spring delivery for our C&C
35-3. UK is building a 140% Genoa of 7.3 oz high modulus dacron with a
foam luff, UV sun shield, sail numbers and tell tail windows. The main
is 8.3 oz high mod with 4 full battens, 2 reef points, sail numbers, C&
3 pm
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FYI, I have dealt with both Doyle and North, and I prefer Doyle. The best rag
on my boat is a Doyle 153% genoa (not dacron, however). From: Nathan Post via
CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:20 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc:
Nathan Post Subject
FYI, I have dealt with both Doyle and North, and I prefer Doyle. The best rag
on my boat is a Doyle 153% genoa (not dacron, however).
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David
David,
I purchased new Dacron cruising sails (main and 135% genoa) for our 34 last
spring for the 2019 season. After getting quotes and discussing it with
several suppliers including North Sails and Precision I decided to go with
Doyle Sails in Salem MA. Chris Howes at Doyle worked with me on
I googled the address that my precision sail came from and the top result was
for quantum sails oddly enough...Thanks, Danny
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Date: 1/15/20 5:36 PM (GMT-05:00) To:
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New
We always had North Sails on Zoomer and the Jib’s were 3DL on the #1 but the 2
and 3 were Dacron then Kevlar reinforced. Main was Dacron but radial cut, not
cross cut. They lasted at least 7 years with regular buoy racing.
Did you talk to Ben Sperry? He’s still sailing with Dacron on Gentian a
David
I have a Hood Vectron main that I bought for racing in 2007. It is now
my cruising sail and still has reasonable shape and would recommend it.
A J30 skipper was so impressed with it that he bought one for cruising
(Vectron was not class legal for racing on a J30). However, since the
Ho
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Hello,
I am sure we have been there and done that, but please indulge me…
Going through the process of shopping for new sails. Not a small budget item
for a 40. Know the arguments of local vs. national vs. offshore. Cruising
with offshore racing and cruising
Hello,
I am sure we have been there and done that, but please indulge me...
Going through the process of shopping for new sails. Not a small budget item
for a 40. Know the arguments of local vs. national vs. offshore. Cruising
with offshore racing and cruising with occasional beer can.
No matter who or what you decide on, give the service and support of a
local loft considerable preference. IMO there is nothing like getting
immediate service, personal and professional measurements, test sails,
revisions, and repairs.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Thu
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I’m considering getting new mainsail and 135% genoa (furling) for my 1980 C&C
34. Current main & genoa are ba
Jay, am in Whitby and went through this last year with the help of the good
people here and others.
See blog for discussion.
http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2016/10/mainsail-decision-made.html?m=1
http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2016/10/mainsail-specification-rig-photos.html?m=1
Am happy
1994 C270 "Legato"
Ottawa, ON
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I’m considering getting new mainsail and 135% genoa
I am a big fan of Boston Doyle in Point Edward Ontario.
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 12:30 PM, jay hackney via
CnC-List wrote: I’m considering getting new mainsail
and 135% genoa (furling) for my 1980 C&C 34. Current main & genoa are bagged
out & not in top shape
Check out these articles.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yakFDZERscXFTaUE
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 12:30 PM jay hackney via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I’m considering getting new mainsail and 135% genoa (furling) for my 1980
> C&C 34. Current main & genoa are bagg
We have used Doyle's for new genoa and DRS for our C&C32. Good service and
reasonable prices
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:30 jay hackney via CnC-List
wrote:
> I’m considering getting new mainsail and 135% genoa (furling) for my 1980
> C&C 34. Current main & genoa are bagged out & not in top shape.
I’m considering getting new mainsail and 135% genoa (furling) for my 1980 C&C
34. Current main & genoa are bagged out & not in top shape.
I’m a cruiser, not a racer, so Dacron would be fine for my needs. As would
partial battens on the main I believe.
A couple of questions for the community:
1.
I've been very pleased with the sails I got from Chesapeake Sailmakers (Chuck
O'Malley) in Annapolis. Super service, and the roller furling 145 sails very
well when furled to 110 as conditions dictate. On the Landfall 38, sailing jib
only is a good option in heavy weather. The sails have held up
Dammit.
I must be immature, since every time I see that
Thailand city's name I can't help but hear the Ph as "F".
but then again, as they say in Australia:
"Phuket, let's go now!."
Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1
At 05:08 PM 07/08/2016, you wrote:
Jean-Francois a correction
tape, sunbrella, reinforced
everything. $3500ish for my 40 footer delivered.
Danny
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Jean-Francois — a correction: Rolly Tasker is NOT “direct order from China".
They use the same cloth (Challenger, Bainbridge, etc.) as virtually all other
sailmakers; but their loft is in Phuket, Thailand.
— Fred
Fred Street --
lson ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass
Subject: Stus-List New sails for my 38
It’s time to replace the main and genoa on my 38 mk2 (and I actually have the
money to do it).
I’m more of a cruiser than a racer any more. I only do about 4 charity races a
year, and have been adding cruising gea
Jean-Francois — a correction: Rolly Tasker is NOT “direct order from China".
They use the same cloth (Challenger, Bainbridge, etc.) as virtually all other
sailmakers; but their loft is in Phuket, Thailand.
— Fred
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
(s
help you. Good folks.
>
> Pete W.
> Siren Song
> C&C 30-2
> Deltaville, Va.
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 11:45:34 -0400
> From: "Rick Brass" mailto:rickbr...@earthlink.net>>
> To: "Charlie Nelson" mailto:cenel...@aol.co
Hi Rick,
If you are comfortable with Chinese sailcloth you might want to contact
IslandPlanet http://islandplanetsails.com/ Island is out of Florida and
Peak Sails www.peaksailsna.com and Peak is out of Virginia (Closer to
you)
They seem to be a good compromise between the direct order f
Try Ullman Sails in Deltaville. Jerry or Justin can help you. Good folks.
Pete W.Siren SongC&C 30-2Deltaville, Va. Message: 7
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 11:45:34 -0400
From: "Rick Brass"
To: "Charlie Nelson" ,
Subject: Stus-List New sails for my 38
Message-ID
It's time to replace the main and genoa on my 38 mk2 (and I actually have
the money to do it).
I'm more of a cruiser than a racer any more. I only do about 4 charity races
a year, and have been adding cruising gear to the boat for trips to the
Bahamas (and Bermuda next June). So I guess I'm loo
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I'm so excited. Stuart Dahlgren, from UK Sails NW, is driving down to Vashon
from S
Tom,
congrats! I've loved my Tape Drive main to death. 14 years for a laminate
sail, including 2 ocean races. I hope you are as pleased with yours.
Joel
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I'm so excited. Stuart Dahlgren, from UK Sai
I'm so excited. Stuart Dahlgren, from UK Sails NW, is driving down
to Vashon from Sidney to deliver and fit my new Tape Drive Mail and
Genoa. He shipped them from Sidney to Blaine, to avoid BC tax and
duty, clever man!
We stopped into his loft last summer on our way to the C&C Rendezvous
to
2001 I think Joel - it was on Mojito when I bought her 7 years ago. That's a
pretty good life for a main!
Tim
> On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> I've been very happy with my Tape Drive main. Don't know how old it is. Its
> taken me to Bermuda and Newport.
Okay, but in the end who was correct? you the teen or Butch the waterlogged :)
Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35-1
At 07:32 AM 21/08/2015, you wrote:
Funny little story about Butch Ulmer...the "U" in "UK".
Many many moons ago, when I was 12, I stepped aboard a 1972 C & C 35
(the owner we
.
Finally Butch looks at me and says "Boy, I have squeezed more seawater outta
my socks than you have been over..."
I shut up.
David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:42:17 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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s at me and says "Boy, I have squeezed more seawater outta my
socks than you have been over..."
I shut up.
David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:42:17 -0400
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From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: joel
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 Erie, PA
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
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How Old?
Still have its original shape?
Bill Coleman
C&C 39 Erie, PA
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I've been very happy with my Tape Drive main. Don't know how old it is.
Its taken me to Bermuda and Newport.
Sadly, it is reaching the end of its useful life. That's no reflection on
the workmanship or materials.
Sounds like you made a smart choice!
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9
I too have worked with Stuart and the gang at UK Sails. I had them make a sail
lazy cradle and lazy jacks for me. They also did some repairs on some older
sails. The workmanship was very good! They were great to talk to and easy to
deal with. I enjoy being able to drop by and ask questions and
se are the first new sails I have ever had...so, I am
for sure stoked!
Tom B
At 04:01 PM 8/20/2015, you wrote:
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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:01:17 -0400
From: John Pennie
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Congrats - lots of luck. new sails are always fun. Tape drive is nice stuff.
How do you like the Schaefer boom? I’ve used the forespar variant but never
had an opportunity to play with the Schaefer.
John
> On Aug 20, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
> wrote:
>
> Listers
>
> I
Listers
I know I should have asked you all before taking action and I am
certain that someone out there will have a better solution...that
said, I am pleased to announce that I pulled the trigger on new sails
for Alera. The PO installed a Schaefer In Boom furler but went cheap
on the mylar s
FWIW, My North rep suggested October for the best deal.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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To: "CnC"
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 12:46:36 PM
Subject: Stus-List New Sails
If anyone is considerin
If anyone is considering new sails, now- August - is the best time to buy. I just ordered a new kevlar 135 from Evolution Sails in Toronto. Ordered it Friday, they are starting construction Tuesday, should have it by next week. 20% off.They are sitting around twiddling their thumbs right now - no
Firewater"
Milwaukee, WI
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Laplante
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 1:12 PM
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Getting new sails is a great moment in life! :-)
I ordered a main
Sylvain
C&C27MkIII
From: Ryan Raber
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:42 PM
Subject: Stus-List New Sails
FYI: new sail for Scapa last summer:
all radial cut:
New Main: Pentex, PX/PE 15/20, Leech Line Sail Numbers, Tell Tales, 3 Sa
t fails - completely, while a dacron
will slowly decrease in shape over time.
Just my opinion - the new dacrons are pretty good.
Gary Nylander
30-1
St. Michaels MD
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From: Chuck S
To: cnc-list CNC boat owners
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 1:04 PM
Subject:
FYI: new sail for Scapa last summer:
all radial cut:
New Main: Pentex, PX/PE 15/20, Leech Line Sail Numbers, Tell Tales, 3 Sail
Ties, Sail Bag, 1 Reef, Batten Full Length or Standard, Sail Numbers. $4,515.00
or Carbon, GPL 10/14 $5,765.00
120% Genoa (RF): 1) Pentex- PX/PE 10/15, Leech and Foot L
Hi Edd,
Why not ask for a price from UK? They must be your closest sailmaker and
repairs should be less on their own sails?
All of Resolute's racing sails are UK sails, Kevlar Edge, from 1997 and 1998,
but have some life left in them since they were used only two seasons by the PO
and haven't
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