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2014-05-27 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
you wrote: There is a*lot* more to the story of Rebel Heart. You can find out all about it in the usual places. Long Story Short is the wife has issues, they never should have left Mexico, Sorry, but as long as I'm drinking and feel a sudden need to share, I can only say this: *YUP* T

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2014-05-13 Thread Colin Kilgour via CnC-List
t; Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:27 PM > To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - > > Really not a pi___ng match - honest. I just can't stress enough how > valuable and helpful the ham community can be. Please, if you venture > offshore

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2014-05-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Of John Pennie via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:27 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - Really not a pi___ng match - honest. I just can't stress enough how valuable and helpful the ham community can be. Please, if you venture offshore

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2014-05-11 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Really not a pi___ng match - honest. I just can’t stress enough how valuable and helpful the ham community can be. Please, if you venture offshore, take the time to learn and pursue a license. I am not bashing the sat phone - I had one on board when cruising. It just wouldn’t be my go-to. O

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2014-05-11 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
No argument here. I don't want to get into a p___ing match with anyone. I'm too busy. Whatever you say. I have an HF receiver on board, and have listened and learned. Wal you wrote: I'm sorry, have to jump in here. With a sat phone, assuming it works, you may get some operator on the

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2014-05-11 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
My comment was to Wally and anyone that would count on a Satphone in an emergency. As to the story, it is not my place to second guess decisions that were made in an emergency situation. John On May 11, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Frederick G Street wrote: > It sounds like they had SSB; the radio got

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2014-05-11 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
It sounds like they had SSB; the radio got damaged by seawater. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On May 11, 2014, at 5:40 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote: > I'm sorry, have to jump in here. With a sat phone, assuming it work

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2014-05-11 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
I'm sorry, have to jump in here. With a sat phone, assuming it works, you may get some operator on the phone. With a SSB, assuming you took the time to learn it, you will probably get half the ham community on the other end. That is a group that will go above and beyond. John KC2-WPS On M

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2014-05-11 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
I was actually wondering if anyone who has had a sat phone for more than two years would chime in. I'm going to buy one of those little yellow 'Baby on Board' signs and hang it on the radar mast. Sheesh, if I ever need rescue it won't make news or go viral. Everyone will just say 'Oh, a sing

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2014-05-11 Thread Evan Morgan via CnC-List
quot; ; "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - Hi Wally, I just listened to the interview on our NPR station. Just finished googling the Navy rescue video, and the ship data, and blog. My heart goes out to those guys, but it's great our Navy and Coast Guard

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2014-05-11 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
City, NJ - Original Message - From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:26:15 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - Rebel Heart, the Hans Christian 36 scuttled recently, did an interview

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2014-05-11 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
Rebel Heart, the Hans Christian 36 scuttled recently, did an interview on NPR a few days ago: It was interesting to hear that the Iridium Satellite phone failed with an 'Invalid SIM card' message because the distributor pr

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

2014-04-10 Thread dwight
of your life for another fix _ From: CnC-List [ <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: April 9, 2014 2:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... I agree w

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2014-04-09 Thread Russ & Melody
-- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: April 9, 2014 2:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... I agree wholeheartedly. Society, in our attempt to make idiot proof, is making ou

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: April 9, 2014 2:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... I agree wholeheartedly. Society, in our attempt to make idiot proof, is making our lives so full of rules and

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
From: Stevan Plavsa To: cnc-list Sent: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 11:07 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started sailing at 30 and closing the gap on things that you simply learn by osmosis growing up ar

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
dous activities. Jerome Tauber, C&C 27 MKV -Original Message- From: Stevan Plavsa To: cnc-list Sent: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 11:07 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started sailing at 3

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
Bold enough to say 'it shows" _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: April 9, 2014 1:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... Steve - I started at 37, and

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
Big gap.not sure about osmosis but everything is a learning eaperience _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: April 9, 2014 12:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... You guys

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2014-04-09 Thread dwight
Not so bad; we were all there once unless he is the lady in the picture _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: April 9, 2014 11:50 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... Good

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2014-04-09 Thread Colin Kilgour
I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are no risks when you go to sea. (Spoiler Alert: There are plenty) The key is to understand them and to take prudent steps to manage them. But even if you do that, bad luck can still happen. (And it does from time to time) >From what I understand of

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2014-04-09 Thread Wally Bryant
OldSteveH wrote: Good planning, risk analysis and contingency planning are essential to a successful long distance sailing trip. Yes unforeseen stuff can happen to the boat, but I'm still talking about those children. If these people had done proper trip planning they would have assessed the ris

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2014-04-09 Thread charliekilo552
Good point about Dave and Jaja. Reading their stories in the 90’s was a huge inspiration to us when we were making our plans to take off in 2009. I still have one of their Cruising World cover stories as bathroom reading in our basement (the one where he’s standing on the spreaders in a surviv

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2014-04-09 Thread Kim Brown
I can prove I was a bad parent too: kimcbrown.com/MartaGrinds.html You really aren't supposed to let them suck their pacifiers- my dentist said so.. Clearly Rebel Heart was overly ambitious given the budget and green but it does appear as if they weren't totally clueless. They seem to have had

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2014-04-09 Thread Jack Brennan
As an old newspaper guy and web producer, I’ll say this clearly is a case of a blogger knowing how to stir the pot to get a great deal of clicks and attention ... The fact is that there are many families out there cruising with small children and nothing bad happens, just as there are families

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2014-04-09 Thread Marek Dziedzic
would certainly take my kid(s). Of course, all the comments about good seamanship still apply. Marek From: Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 1:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... I agree wholeheartedly. Society, in our

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2014-04-09 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
Street Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:44 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

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2014-04-09 Thread Robert Boyer
I followed Charlotte's blog for some time and was wondering why it stopped all of a sudden. I could tell that their trip was not going to last long but I thought they would return to Mexico after a few days at sea. However, risk is one of the things that attracts us to sailing. Bob Boyer S/V

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2014-04-09 Thread Stevan Plavsa
ote: > >> Good for you! They'll be telling their kids about it. >> I can embarrass my son with this photo. >> http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/images/noah093x.JPG >> >> >> *Joe Della Barba* >> Coquina >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-

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2014-04-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Was I old enough at age 12 to give proper consent to going offshore? Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Tauber Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:33 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman

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2014-04-09 Thread Jerome Tauber
;C 27 MKV -Original Message- From: Stevan Plavsa To: cnc-list Sent: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 11:07 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started sailing at 30 and closing the gap on things t

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2014-04-09 Thread OldSteveH
Lions Head ON -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 09:24:54 -0400 From: Colin Kilgour To: "C&C List" Subject: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If you want to get infuriated, re

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2014-04-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe
t.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... Steve - I started at 37, and have been playing catch-up ever since... :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Stevan Plavsa mailto:

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2014-04-09 Thread Frederick G Street
Steve — I started at 37, and have been playing catch-up ever since… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started sa

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2014-04-09 Thread Stevan Plavsa
C-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of > *Frederick > G Street > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:44 AM > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... > > > > I didn't start sailing young

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2014-04-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe
10:44 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... I didn't start sailing young enough to have had that experience; but you can be darn sure my kids did! Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard i

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2014-04-09 Thread Frederick G Street
I didn’t start sailing young enough to have had that experience; but you can be darn sure my kids did! Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > I still remember watching the east coa

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2014-04-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe
job no one wanted to come on deck even after my watch was over LOL. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:26 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman

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2014-04-09 Thread Andrew Burton
e 2 parents with only one >> really able to sail is a bit undermanned for ocean sailing IMHO. I still >> remember from birth to age 3 my son was a full time job for my wife and I >> was essentially sailing single-handed while she kept him safe and happy. >> >> *Joe Della

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2014-04-09 Thread Frederick G Street
Reading the article horrified me; but then I was gratified reading the responses. Common sense still lives… :^) Comment after comment compared her remarks about taking kids out on a boat with throwing them in a vehicle and driving somewhere, and how much more statistically dangerous that is

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2014-04-09 Thread Josh Muckley
My concern is that some governing agency would/could start telling me what I can or can't do, with or without my kids because of the "hazard". Kinda smells like a helmet or seatbelt law, or reckless endangerment. Who gets to decide? Josh Muckley On Apr 9, 2014 9:25 AM, "Colin Kilgour" wrote: >

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2014-04-09 Thread Lisa Lias
n sailing IMHO. I still >> remember from birth to age 3 my son was a full time job for my wife and I >> was essentially sailing single-handed while she kept him safe and happy. >> >> Joe Della Barba >> >> Coquina >> >> From: CnC-List [mai

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2014-04-09 Thread Stevan Plavsa
s essentially sailing single-handed while she kept him safe and happy. > > *Joe Della Barba* > > Coquina > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin > Kilgour > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:25 AM > *To:* C&C List > *Subjec

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2014-04-09 Thread Della Barba, Joe
was a full time job for my wife and I was essentially sailing single-handed while she kept him safe and happy. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 9:25 AM To: C&C List Subject: Stus-List R

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2014-04-09 Thread Colin Kilgour
If you want to get infuriated, read this woman's blog about Rebel Heart. Apparently, she's some kind of self-described parenting expert who is now weighing in on sailing and seamanship issues as well. I'm not sure I'd have gone to sea with my kids at that age, but if I didn't, it certainly wasn't