Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
-List" To: "cnc-list" , "Neil Gallagher via CnC-List" Cc: kwalt...@speakeasy.net Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:24:10 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 I have the Moyer FWC cooling system on my A4 which needs no winterization (as it and the bl

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I agree draining may not be the best option. Touche's raw water cooled AT4 had been idle for years (at least 8-10 to my knowledge). When I pulled the side plates to clean the water chamber area around the cylinders, I discovered the sealing surface of the block around the side plates had thinned

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Ken via CnC-List
I have the Moyer FWC cooling system on my A4 which needs no winterization (as it and the block are filled with automotive type antifreeze). To winterize the seawater side of the FWC, seawater pump and wet exhaust  I pull a hose off the seawater strainer, put it in a bucket of the pink stuff (non t

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
When I first put fresh water cooling on my A4, I did drain the block and pump every year, but then it occurred to me that I was leaving the interior of the engine filled with air and moisture, not the best combination. Taking the side plate off in my case would be difficult. I now make sure m

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
When I bought Touche' in 1999, it had an AT4. It had the drain plug extension. When I finally got it started, the drain plug extension leaked. As I recall, it was corroded at the threads at the cap. When I went to replace it, it fell apart. I think it's just a 1/8 or 1/4 pipe nipple. Just som

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
 I have the extension pipe installed between the distributor and the alternator belt. There is just a cap on the end that I remove to drain the block. It is easy. The two drain plugs on the block are simple to get to. The drain plug on the bottom of the water pump is a bit fiddly to start back in,

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
*Josh Muckley *Subject: **Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4* *Date: *October 10, 2016 at 10:27:53 PM EDT *To: *"C&C List" You can plumb in auxiliary suctions that will let you draw glycol straight out of the jug. If you haul the boat you can stuff a tygon hose up the through h

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread phorvati . via CnC-List
U have to drain the block. Side inspection plate will leak if you dont drain it. Its fragile as it is. It doesnt take too much freezing to develop leaks. Block drain plug is under distributor, just aft of side inspection plate. It's pita. Moyer sells extention to make this easy. On Oct 11, 201

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
My atomic 4 is raw water cooled, I have drained the engine and water pump using the drain plugs and not used any antifreeze. That has worked in Toronto for the last nine years. I did experiment with a thin tube and suction pump the first year to see how much water was left in the block. I doubt i

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
This is how I do it with my diesel. Always on the hard. I warm up the engine first, using fresh water into that bucket. Marek From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:48 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
after the pump. Probably the best would be to drain the muffler first, push the water out and drain it again? Marek From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:54 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 Marek, the worry

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
be done in or out of the water. Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:50 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 Marek,

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2016 07:25 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Kevin Deluzio *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 My first haul-out with a new-to-me 1980 C&C30 with an Atomic 4 as well. I like the idea of using the shop-vac to blow the water out. Do you con

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Kevin Deluzio Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 My first haul-out with a new-to-me 1980 C&C30 with an Atomic 4 as well. I like the idea of using the shop-vac to blow the water out. Do you connect that to the same location - at water intake hose disconnected

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
980 C&C30 with an Atomic 4 as well. I > like the idea of using the shop-vac to blow the water out. Do you connect > that to the same location - at water intake hose disconnected from seacock ? > > Kevin > > > > > *From: *Josh Muckley > *Subject: **Re: Stus-List Wi

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
h a new-to-me 1980 C&C30 with an Atomic 4 as well. I like the idea of using the shop-vac to blow the water out. Do you connect that to the same location - at water intake hose disconnected from seacock ? Kevin *From:*Josh Muckley mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>> *Subject:**Re: Stus-List

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-11 Thread Kevin Deluzio via CnC-List
gt; > Subject: Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 > Date: October 10, 2016 at 10:27:53 PM EDT > To: "C&C List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > > > You can plumb in auxiliary suctions that will let you draw glycol straight > out of the jug. If you haul

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-10 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
From: RANDY via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: October 10, 2016 21:50 To: cnc-list<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: RANDY<mailto:randy.staff...@comcast.net> Subject: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4 My first haul-out with my 30-1 (purchased in January) is coming u

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-10 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
I just disconnect the intake hose from the seacock and stick it into a bottle of antifreeze. I'm running without thermostat however so it's simple. If you're new with the A4 a great resource is moyer marine. The forums there are really helpful. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 a

Re: Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-10 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
You can plumb in auxiliary suctions that will let you draw glycol straight out of the jug. If you haul the boat you can stuff a tygon hose up the through hull and beer bong the glycol into the engine. Or you can try the seaflush. I have one and it works, though it might be a bit over priced. I l

Stus-List Winterizing an Atomic 4

2016-10-10 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
My first haul-out with my 30-1 (purchased in January) is coming up in a few weeks, sadly. The PO advised me to just run antifreeze through the raw-water cooling system until it comes out the exhaust. My main question is how to get the antifreeze into the raw water intake. I've seen a gadget made