Stus-List Strange HIN, can anyone clarify
A friend is looking at a 1974 30-1 in Beaufort, NC. The seller gave us a copy of a recent survey of the boat. On the survey the hull number is listed as 300116 which is probably taken from the metal plate in the cockpit. Model 30. Hull #116. Makes sense. But the HIN shown for the boat is MDZ45139G473, which seems all wrong. For one thing, the date would make this a 73 model not a 74. And MDZ is the manufacturer code for a home made boat built in Maryland. Can anyone help me clarify what appears to be an error or typo in the survey? Does anyone her have a HIN like this.? Rick brass Sent from my iPad ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Strange HIN, can anyone clarify
CC in that era often made the hull in one year and completed the boat the next. This is not the only CC that is a 74 model but hull was 73. Dry Red CC 25 #148 was same thing From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:38 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Strange HIN, can anyone clarify A friend is looking at a 1974 30-1 in Beaufort, NC. The seller gave us a copy of a recent survey of the boat. On the survey the hull number is listed as 300116 which is probably taken from the metal plate in the cockpit. Model 30. Hull #116. Makes sense. But the HIN shown for the boat is MDZ45139G473, which seems all wrong. For one thing, the date would make this a 73 model not a 74. And MDZ is the manufacturer code for a home made boat built in Maryland. Can anyone help me clarify what appears to be an error or typo in the survey? Does anyone her have a HIN like this.? Rick brass Sent from my iPad ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Strange HIN, can anyone clarify
All boats manufactured after 1972 have the HIN on the upper starboard of the transom. Accept no substitutes! If the HIN is not there, I would slow down and investigate before going any further. As far as I know, CC always had the HIN located in other spots as backup. Mine has it embossed on the interior liner on the surface that is exposed when I lift up the seat of the port settee. For all I know there are others I have not stumbled upon. Maybe the surveyor mixed up some of his notes when he got back to the office to write his final reports. I'm not sure I would rely on a seller supplied survey, either. I think I may be hearing the faint sound of a warning bell or two, here. The buyer will need a new survey with correct numbers to get insurance and/or financing anyway. Bill Bina On 5/30/2014 9:38 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote: A friend is looking at a 1974 30-1 in Beaufort, NC. The seller gave us a copy of a recent survey of the boat. On the survey the hull number is listed as 300116 which is probably taken from the metal plate in the cockpit. Model 30. Hull #116. Makes sense. But the HIN shown for the boat is MDZ45139G473, which seems all wrong. For one thing, the date would make this a 73 model not a 74. And MDZ is the manufacturer code for a home made boat built in Maryland. Can anyone help me clarify what appears to be an error or typo in the survey? Does anyone her have a HIN like this.? Rick brass Sent from my iPad ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Strange HIN, can anyone clarify
That may be a state issued HIN. Touché has a state issued HIN because the 1971 HIN format didn't match the USCG standard. The state HIN number does not have CCZ or CCY. It has some random code but matches the USCG format. I'm thinking the 300116 is correct and the CC code is just omitted. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone On May 30, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: A friend is looking at a 1974 30-1 in Beaufort, NC. The seller gave us a copy of a recent survey of the boat. On the survey the hull number is listed as 300116 which is probably taken from the metal plate in the cockpit. Model 30. Hull #116. Makes sense. But the HIN shown for the boat is MDZ45139G473, which seems all wrong. For one thing, the date would make this a 73 model not a 74. And MDZ is the manufacturer code for a home made boat built in Maryland. Can anyone help me clarify what appears to be an error or typo in the survey? Does anyone her have a HIN like this.? Rick brass Sent from my iPad ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race
All, One week to the gun! I want to thank all of you in advance for your support, advice, patience, equipment and even sails that have made it possible for me to enter the race. There will be fellow CC ers on the boat both ways! Our class includes Steve Sharkey's CC 37 as well as a mini transat 21 footer and a 100 foot schooner. Should make the starting line interesting. You can track us at www.bermudaoceanrace.com. They are using Spots, not Yellowbrick. Finally, as a follow up to an earlier post, I ran out of time to make a fancy enclosure for the frig compressor. Some corrugated plastic board from Home Depot and duct tape will suffice for now. If nothing else, it will serve as a template for a more permanent solution. -- Joel The Office Annapolis 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race
Win the start, get to the first shift ahead and tack on it. Extend your lead. I guarantee that if you follow this advice, you'll win. Good Luck! Andy On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Should make the starting line interesting. Don’t start to leeward of the 100’ schooner nor to windward of the mini. Best of luck on your race! Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Aronson via CnC-List *Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2014 9:46 AM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race All, One week to the gun! I want to thank all of you in advance for your support, advice, patience, equipment and even sails that have made it possible for me to enter the race. There will be fellow CC ers on the boat both ways! Our class includes Steve Sharkey's CC 37 as well as a mini transat 21 footer and a 100 foot schooner. Should make the starting line interesting. You can track us at www.bermudaoceanrace.com. They are using Spots, not Yellowbrick. Finally, as a follow up to an earlier post, I ran out of time to make a fancy enclosure for the frig compressor. Some corrugated plastic board from Home Depot and duct tape will suffice for now. If nothing else, it will serve as a template for a more permanent solution. -- Joel The Office Annapolis 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race
Wish you luck Joel! Stay safe and say hi to nice folks on Bermuda radio... Cheers, Aaron R. 1979 30-MK1 Annapolis, MD On May 30, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: All, One week to the gun! I want to thank all of you in advance for your support, advice, patience, equipment and even sails that have made it possible for me to enter the race. There will be fellow CC ers on the boat both ways! Our class includes Steve Sharkey's CC 37 as well as a mini transat 21 footer and a 100 foot schooner. Should make the starting line interesting. You can track us at www.bermudaoceanrace.com. They are using Spots, not Yellowbrick. Finally, as a follow up to an earlier post, I ran out of time to make a fancy enclosure for the frig compressor. Some corrugated plastic board from Home Depot and duct tape will suffice for now. If nothing else, it will serve as a template for a more permanent solution. -- Joel The Office Annapolis 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race
Yes, everyone who knows anything about sailboat racing would make that recommendation to anyone but it is much easier to make the recommendation than to put the recommendation into practice.sort of like saying just stay in front all the way but it's winning the start and staying in front that's hard to do sometimes.I do agree with the general statement that says you can't win by following so if you are not fortunate enough to win the strat and get to the first shift first and regocnize that there is indeed a real shift and how to use that shift to your advantage then you might be forced to try something different or else be satisfied to follow and consequently place second or lower.soemtimes it hard to make that bold decision to tack away and look for better fortune _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: May 30, 2014 5:40 PM To: Martin DeYoung; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race Win the start, get to the first shift ahead and tack on it. Extend your lead. I guarantee that if you follow this advice, you'll win. Good Luck! Andy On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Should make the starting line interesting. Don't start to leeward of the 100' schooner nor to windward of the mini. Best of luck on your race! Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:46 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race All, One week to the gun! I want to thank all of you in advance for your support, advice, patience, equipment and even sails that have made it possible for me to enter the race. There will be fellow CC ers on the boat both ways! Our class includes Steve Sharkey's CC 37 as well as a mini transat 21 footer and a 100 foot schooner. Should make the starting line interesting. You can track us at www.bermudaoceanrace.com. They are using Spots, not Yellowbrick. Finally, as a follow up to an earlier post, I ran out of time to make a fancy enclosure for the frig compressor. Some corrugated plastic board from Home Depot and duct tape will suffice for now. If nothing else, it will serve as a template for a more permanent solution. -- Joel The Office Annapolis 301 541 tel:301%20541%208551 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race
Dwight, Since the start is in the upper part of the Chesapeake Bay, our options for the start are somewhat limited by the shallow water. There are still a lot of tactics to apply to avoid foul currents and maximize boatspeed. Jake Jake Brodersen Midnight Mistress CC 35 Mk-III Hampton Va From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 8:53 PM To: 'Andrew Burton'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race Yes, everyone who knows anything about sailboat racing would make that recommendation to anyone but it is much easier to make the recommendation than to put the recommendation into practice.sort of like saying just stay in front all the way but it's winning the start and staying in front that's hard to do sometimes.I do agree with the general statement that says you can't win by following so if you are not fortunate enough to win the strat and get to the first shift first and regocnize that there is indeed a real shift and how to use that shift to your advantage then you might be forced to try something different or else be satisfied to follow and consequently place second or lower.soemtimes it hard to make that bold decision to tack away and look for better fortune ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race
Dwight...I believe Andy was being facetious. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: dwight via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date:05/30/2014 8:54 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Andrew Burton' a.burton.sai...@gmail.com,cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race Yes, everyone who knows anything about sailboat racing would make that recommendation to anyone but it is much easier to make the recommendation than to put the recommendation into practice.sort of like saying just stay in front all the way but it's winning the start and staying in front that's hard to do sometimes.I do agree with the general statement that says you can't win by following so if you are not fortunate enough to win the strat and get to the first shift first and regocnize that there is indeed a real shift and how to use that shift to your advantage then you might be forced to try something different or else be satisfied to follow and consequently place second or lower.soemtimes it hard to make that bold decision to tack away and look for better fortune _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: May 30, 2014 5:40 PM To: Martin DeYoung; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race Win the start, get to the first shift ahead and tack on it. Extend your lead. I guarantee that if you follow this advice, you'll win. Good Luck! Andy On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Should make the starting line interesting. Don't start to leeward of the 100' schooner nor to windward of the mini. Best of luck on your race! Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:46 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Annapolis Bermuda Race All, One week to the gun! I want to thank all of you in advance for your support, advice, patience, equipment and even sails that have made it possible for me to enter the race. There will be fellow CC ers on the boat both ways! Our class includes Steve Sharkey's CC 37 as well as a mini transat 21 footer and a 100 foot schooner. Should make the starting line interesting. You can track us at www.bermudaoceanrace.com. They are using Spots, not Yellowbrick. Finally, as a follow up to an earlier post, I ran out of time to make a fancy enclosure for the frig compressor. Some corrugated plastic board from Home Depot and duct tape will suffice for now. If nothing else, it will serve as a template for a more permanent solution. -- Joel The Office Annapolis 301 541 tel:301%20541%208551 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
