Re: Stus-List Adding new battery to existing battery bank

2019-04-23 Thread sender via CnC-List
We think of a battery as being a pure reservoir of power. In actual fact, a battery is a source of power that has an internal resistance that changes with the state of charge and age/condition of the battery. For this reason if you have a bank of batteries wired in parallel (as is done in a

Re: Stus-List Split propeller coupling

2019-04-23 Thread sender via CnC-List
Question: Why would you want a shaft coupling that is easier to take apart, but also inherently less strong than a solid coupler? I recently had to take off a stuck coupler to install a drip-less stuffing box. It was easy to make a puller to apply tons of force to separate it. I now know I when

Re: Stus-List C 35-2 concerns

2019-04-23 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Hi Eric, Thanks for sharing your experience. After spending so long finding this boat, it is hard to let it go, not knowing when another might come along. I found the 30 a bit cramped, and that was before we looked at the 35, so I suspect it would be hard to go back. I am retired, so have the time

Re: Stus-List C 35-2 concerns

2019-04-23 Thread sender via CnC-List
Shawn: 2 years ago, I also bought a 35MkII and subsequently let it go after an unfavorable survey. It was a very difficult decision to make. I really liked the design and solid build of the 35. In the sea trial it sailed beautifully, exactly the way I think a boat should sail. The interior

Re: Stus-List Build date

2019-04-23 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
From a previous post from Rick Brass: First three (alpha) characters are the manufacturer code Next two are the model Next three are the hull number Next one is the letter for the month when production was started if your format is the model year version (a=January) Next one is the year

Re: Stus-List C 35-2 concerns

2019-04-23 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Oh yeah, a few more things. I sounded the decks, and although there is some creaking when walking between the mast and hatch area, sounding gives a consistent sound. The only place that was different was around the chainplates, but it was almost completely just inboard and outboard of them, which

Stus-List C 35-2 concerns

2019-04-23 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
We're getting down to the final days before closing on the C 35-2, and I'm getting a bit discouraged by the number of things needing work, and the way in which the previous owner did a lot of things: -the electrical is a mess, with the original fuse panel having quite a few additional switches,

Stus-List Build date

2019-04-23 Thread Allan Hester via CnC-List
Listers, I own a 1989 C 35 Mk3, hull number 264. The registration says 1989 and the HIN on the stern reads Z C C 3 5 2 6 4 J 7 8 9. However, online reviews and sailboatdata all indicate the 35 was only built until 1987. Is anyone able to clear up this discrepancy? Is anyone able to

Re: Stus-List Genoa sheets for Landfall 38

2019-04-23 Thread billbruce--- via CnC-List
Hi I use 65 ft 1/2" genoa sheets which seem to work well. I tried 5/8 one year but found them to heavy and went back to 1/2". Bill Bruce Landfall 38  ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each

Re: Stus-List Winch Overhaul

2019-04-23 Thread Wade Glew via CnC-List
a 1 gallon plastic ice cream bucket also works very well for winch overhaul. Cut a smaller hole then an X in the bottom and push it over the winch before you start. Another ice cream bucket is perfect for solvent to clean the winch bearings, pauls etc so they can't get away in the process.

Re: Stus-List Winch Overhaul

2019-04-23 Thread Marc Boyd via CnC-List
That's a great idea to use a shoebox. Does anyone know what size of pawls a Lewmar 42 winch Takes? I believe there are small and large available and can't seem to find which of these are for the 42 model. Cheers, Marc. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:31 AM Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel

2019-04-23 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Joe, I agree but I think that's close to what the early 35-1's were at maximum rudder. Have you measured the travel on Coquina? Just eyeball the end of the rudder shaft. You might be surprised. I got Touche's steering system back together today. Right now, with the new limit plates, Touche'

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel

2019-04-23 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
65 degrees would be a TON of drag! Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:35 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel Don, Just to clarify, are

Re: Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel

2019-04-23 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Don, Just to clarify, are you saying 65 each side for 130 degrees total travel? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 9:09 AM Don Kern via CnC-List wrote: > FWIW - I just went out to my side yard and checked were Fireballs stops > are set. Interestingly they are set

Re: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I don't share the list's disdain of flex tanks. Touche' has flex tanks for both potable water and waste water. No issues at all. In fact, the potable water tank is easy to clean each spring. Just empty it, yank it out, put it on the dock, put some water in it and slosh it around. Rinse and

Re: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Yes, your responses have confirmed what I already believed. Thanks to all who responded. From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:43 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank Well, I am sure you have

Re: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Well, I am sure you have heard enough to decide, I am guessing you are replacing a plastic tank. They do hold up well as a rule. Maybe a more streamlined tank would be worth the expense, if you already have the other out, it is no trouble. Just to let you know where I stand, I recall a trip

Re: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Presuming we are talking Low Density LDPE plastic (usually a semi-translucent white/yellowish material), I don't think those tanks have a useful life per se.  I had  cracked freshwater LDPE tank, and was able to weld it when it cracked.  Welding plastic is pretty easy.  As to one of the

Re: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread svrebeccaleah via CnC-List
I also had a flexible holding tank that failed. Go with a hard plastic one.  Doug Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah LF39253-208-1412Port Orchard YC wa. Original message From: Shawn Wright via CnC-List Date: 4/23/19 08:37 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Shawn Wright Subject:

Re: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Three reasons: 1) it’s almost a decade old, and although I don’t know its useful life, I have no interest in finding out; 2) it was a pre-fab unit with all the fittings on top, which uses up some valuable space at the expense of volume; and 3) one of the fittings is allowing some odor to get

Re: Stus-List Winch Overhaul

2019-04-23 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Others already chimed in on how to do it. One advice – take a old shoebox, cut a round opening in the bottom and put the box over the winch when you disassemble. The small parts have propensity to swim. The box can save you a few days (waiting for delivery of replacement parts). Marek From:

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Noo don’t do it! I did a job once removing one and adding a Lecrta-San. Sewage plus oxygen gets slowly digested into benign fertilizer by aerobic bacteria. Sewage without oxygen gets digested by anaerobic bacteria that STINK. Sooner or later the bladder will leak, or in my

Re: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Just out of curiosity, why are you thinking of replacing it?  Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net On Tuesday, April 23, 2019, 11:22:11 AM EDT, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote: Listers: New question for the group’s collective wisdom.  For

Re: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread Dave. via CnC-List
I have purchased a composting toilet and will be installing it this spring. Dave. SLY 1975 C 33 Sent from my iPad > On Apr 23, 2019, at 8:49 AM, T Sutton via CnC-List > wrote: > > If or when I have to replace my head or the holding tank I think I’ll be > installing a composting head and be

Re: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread T Sutton via CnC-List
If or when I have to replace my head or the holding tank I think I’ll be installing a composting head and be done with it. Tom S From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:21 AM To: CnClist Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Subject: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage

Re: Stus-List Genoa sheets for Landfall 38

2019-04-23 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Shawn, While some sailors prefer to “luggage tag” a single sheet to the clew of their jib thus saving the excess bulk of a pair of bowlines that may hang up on a baby stay or other deck mounted obstructions, I’ve gone back to using two separate jib sheets on the 135% jib of our Landfall 35.

Re: Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
My parents have/had a flexible tank in their powerboat, which failed, making for an unpleasant job to replace. Not sure if it was more unpleasant that a rigid tank would have been, but I suspect so. Based on that, I'd opt for a rigid (plastic) tank I think. The 35-2 we are buying has a newer

Stus-List Rudder rebuild

2019-04-23 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
As I mentioned the other day, a friend rebuilt his Jeanneau rudder. I now have a bunch of pictures of the process in case anyone wants a blow-by-blow. I must say, as I didn't see it after he took it home for the task, just how rotten it was. I don't know that any of the C rudders are made up of

Stus-List Rigid vs. flexible sewage holding tank

2019-04-23 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Listers: New question for the group’s collective wisdom. For reasons unrelated to a holding tank issue, I recently removed the holding tank to gain access to the area underneath. While it is out, I am considering replacing it. Ordinarily I would order a comparable plastic tank and be

Re: Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel

2019-04-23 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
FWIW - I just went out to my side yard and checked were Fireballs stops are set.  Interestingly they are set at 65 deg., a lot more than I expected since her rudder is two inches longer in girth than a standard C 35 Mk2. Don Kern Fireball, C MK2 Bristol, RI On 4/23/2019 9:12 AM, Chuck

Re: Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel

2019-04-23 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Chuck, You guys are dead on. Your concerns have already been incorporated into the project. Your advice on the Morch pedestal several months ago stopped me from pulling the shaft and sprocket. Yes, some of the teeth are damaged but there are enough undamaged teeth for proper operation. The

Re: Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel

2019-04-23 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Thanks, Rob. That's exactly the info I needed. It also confirms what I'm seeing with the reassembly. The cables coming out of the groove at the end of travel. I will include this info in my documentation. This has been a trial and error process at this point. I can move forward now. Sucks

Re: Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel

2019-04-23 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Dennis, To echo Rob’s concerns regarding the creation of a robust rudder stop, if the previous iteration utilized two bolts inserted in the steering chain, I would take a thorough inspection of the pedestal sprocket. Steel bolts coming into contact with bronze sprocket teeth under load or at

Re: Stus-List Winch Overhaul

2019-04-23 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
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Stus-List Winch Overhaul

2019-04-23 Thread Eugene Fodor via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel

2019-04-23 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
That’s one of the great features of these designs. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2019, at 8:22 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: And that 36 degrees, in both of my C (a 27 MKII and my current 37/40+) have been enough to turn the boat in its own boat length

Re: Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel

2019-04-23 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
And that 36 degrees, in both of my C (a 27 MKII and my current 37/40+) have been enough to turn the boat in its own boat length going down a fairway between docks.  More than enough maneuverability in my opinion... :) Thanks Rob! Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel

2019-04-23 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
Most all quadrants are built for a total travel 72 degrees, 36 degrees each way . . . (historical convention) If you turn the rudder farther than that, the cables start coming out of the groove that holds them on the quadrant. The largest loads that the whole steering system experiences happens

Re: Stus-List Winch Overhaul

2019-04-23 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
"keep it out of the pauls" (not panels)... Darned spell check on my tablet... I like the idea of a box cut out to set over the top of the winches, but have to admit I've never gone to that extreme, and have not (as of yet!) lost a spring or pawl. That said, I can easily see how it would happen. 

Re: Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel

2019-04-23 Thread Kurt Heckert via CnC-List
The rudder will start causing drag at about 5 degrees, 30 - 35 degrees is usually more than enough. Kurt & Connie Heckert On Mon, 4/22/19, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: Subject: Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel To: "CnClist" Cc: "Dennis

Re: Stus-List Winch Overhaul

2019-04-23 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Harken pawl oil and Harken winch grease. Clean the parts with a soft brush like a tooth brush and mineral spirits. Apply grease lightly more is not better. It’s not a hard job. I believe the cncphotoalbum site has some diagrams for Barient winches. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 7:20 AM Raymond Macklin

Re: Stus-List Winch Overhaul

2019-04-23 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
For grease, Practical Sailor highly recommends any of the winch maker's greases or Green Grease which is available at auto parts stores.  I went with the Green Grease.   Remember,  small amounts of grease, not big globs, and keep it out of the panels, which should be lubed using a light machine

Stus-List Winch Overhaul

2019-04-23 Thread Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
I should expand a bit on the l-36.com page, reference tab, scroll down to winches, and pick service manuals, also the grease recommendation and the Barient catalogue Brad Pulse 1985 C 33-2 Lake Huron Anything worth doing requires sails!~~~_/)~~~

Stus-List Winch Overhaul

2019-04-23 Thread Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
Good morning. We have an '85 33-2 as well, 8 winches. I have found the website L-36.com to be very useful for barient winch info, there are parts breakouts for the different models. You may have to search around a bit but all the info is there. I'm using Superlube grease this year. If you're

Stus-List Winch Overhaul

2019-04-23 Thread Raymond Macklin via CnC-List
1985 C 33-2 and I am looking to do maintenance on two Barient 23 Winch, Number 3985340. I have never taken apart one. I am reaching out for advise and guidance, instructions, part replacements , grease brand and any other help in completing this project would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ray

Stus-List Stuffing Box Questions

2019-04-23 Thread Raymond Macklin via CnC-List
Hello: I have a 1985 C 33-2 With the different types of cords and cost, I am looking for some advise for what thickness and brand i should use when changing the stuffing box. Any advise or instructions would be greatly appreciated. Ray LakeHouse Milwaukee, WI