Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

Problem is my boat is in Mexico.  Been to Novamar.  No help there.  Boat is 
being hauled for survey next month.

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From: Steve Thomas via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:07:40 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Steve Thomas 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats


I just today paid the annual $1,000,000 CAD liability-only premium for my 1978 
C on the Canadian side of Lake Erie. It was $70.20 CAD. Desjardins 
Insurance, which bought out State Farm here a few years ago.

The 1980 C in Central Florida on the other hand, costs over $800.00 US for 
300,000 US liability with Progressive. That is with the hull valued at 5,000 
and a 2,000 dollar deductible. (I know, but for some reason, they would not 
write me a liability-only policy. Without the deductible, the premium would 
have been over $1,200.00 US. They refused to write a liability-only policy 
ostensibly because I live out of state.)

Your mileage may vary.

Steve Thomas

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Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats


One thing you can do is just get liability insurance. Your boat won't be 
covered, but you'll be insured if you damage another person's property.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



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Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

I just today paid the annual $1,000,000 CAD liability-only premium for 
my 1978 C on the Canadian side of Lake Erie. It was $70.20 CAD. 
Desjardins Insurance, which bought out State Farm here a few years ago.


The 1980 C in Central Florida on the other hand, costs over $800.00 
US for 300,000 US liability with Progressive. That is with the hull 
valued at 5,000 and a 2,000 dollar deductible. (I know, but for some 
reason, they would not write me a liability-only policy. Without the 
deductible, the premium would have been over $1,200.00 US. They refused 
to write a liability-only policy ostensibly because I live out of 
state.)

Your mileage may vary.
Steve Thomas

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One thing you can do is just get liability insurance. Your boat won't be 
covered, but you'll be insured if you damage another person's property.







Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR







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Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

[David Risch via CnC-List]

Reach out to Charlie, who insures my 1985 49’ Gulfstar - Charlie Bailey of 
Novamar char...@novamar.net

Or Kevin Malloy who insures my 1981 40’ C & C - Kevin Malloy 
kmal...@delandgibson.com

None of the depreciating BS, you may need a survey however…



From: Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:01 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

I know this most probably won't help any of you but my one lingering benefit of 
military service is my 47 year USAA membership.  My boat policy dates from when 
I purchased Touche' in 1999.  It is underwritten by USAA, not their partner 
Progressive.  The adjuster was even surprised that it was an old legacy policy.

When Touche' was damaged in Hurricane Sally last year, the policy paid 100% of 
the repairs including haul out.  Once I received the repair estimate from the 
yard, USAA electronically transferred the funds to me within a day or two.

A buddy of mine had a USAA policy underwritten by Progressive.  His experience, 
while good, wasn't as good as mine.

While I might save a few bucks on my premium by shopping around, I really don't 
think I can beat the coverage.

My point here is don't just shop for low premiums.  Look hard at the coverage.  
Are there deductibles?  Is it new for old?  Is there depreciation involved?  
Does it drop during named storms?  My feeling is marine policies vary 
tremendously.
--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I know this most probably won't help any of you but my one lingering
benefit of military service is my 47 year USAA membership.  My boat policy
dates from when I purchased Touche' in 1999.  It is underwritten by USAA,
not their partner Progressive.  The adjuster was even surprised that it was
an old legacy policy.

When Touche' was damaged in Hurricane Sally last year, the policy paid 100%
of the repairs including haul out.  Once I received the repair estimate
from the yard, USAA electronically transferred the funds to me within a day
or two.

A buddy of mine had a USAA policy underwritten by Progressive.  His
experience, while good, wasn't as good as mine.

While I might save a few bucks on my premium by shopping around, I really
don't think I can beat the coverage.

My point here is don't just shop for low premiums.  Look hard at the
coverage.  Are there deductibles?  Is it new for old?  Is there
depreciation involved?  Does it drop during named storms?  My feeling is
marine policies vary tremendously.
-- 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

I have that.  But with a hull value of $125,000 it is a bit more risk than I 
have comfort assuming.

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From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 12:41:05 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: ALAN BERGEN 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

One thing you can do is just get liability insurance. Your boat won't be 
covered, but you'll be insured if you damage another person's property.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 8:30 AM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I am having the same problem finding replacement hull insurance for my 1982 
Ocean Alexander 43 located in Mexico.  It was also previously insured by Geico.

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Cc: Matthew mailto:wolf...@erie.net>>
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats


Until recently, I had Travelers.  No major issues getting the policy in place a 
few years ago, although I needed to update the original purchase survey as I 
recall.  At the time, I transferred to Travelers from Boat US (Geico) due to 
the 80% depreciation issue.  However, Travelers raised the premium to the point 
where it nearly doubled over a few years.  When I asked why the price rose so 
dramatically, I was told (twice) that “more people are using boats.”  This 
didn’t make sense to me, so this spring I switched from Travelers to 
Progressive, which did not require a survey.  I’m back to under $1 K for the 
annual premium.



Matt Wolford

1976 C 42 Custom



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Cc: djmor...@djma-ltd.com
Subject: Stus-List Insurance for Older Boats



In the course of jumping through hoops imposed by our insurance carrier for our 
1975 C 30 MK1, I had an email from a senior VP with Gallagher Skipper’s Plan 
that says, in part: “In the today’s market it is extremely difficult to find 
insurers willing to write sailboats over 40 years old.  These boats have a high 
incidence of fires, rigging failures, pulled chainplates, and rudder failures 
and are considered high risk. Five insurance companies have stopped offering 
quotes for sailboats over 30 and the few that will offer it are very picky.” 
This, of course, is highly concerning. Any recommendation for a carrier that is 
more favourably inclined to cover an older boat would be most appreciated.



David Morris





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Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

One thing you can do is just get liability insurance. Your boat won't be
covered, but you'll be insured if you damage another person's property.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 8:30 AM Korbey Hunt via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am having the same problem finding replacement hull insurance for my
> 1982 Ocean Alexander 43 located in Mexico.  It was also previously insured
> by Geico.
>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 22, 2021 6:18:38 AM
> *To:* 'Stus-List' 
> *Cc:* Matthew 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats
>
>
> Until recently, I had Travelers.  No major issues getting the policy in
> place a few years ago, although I needed to update the original purchase
> survey as I recall.  At the time, I transferred to Travelers from Boat US
> (Geico) due to the 80% depreciation issue.  However, Travelers raised the
> premium to the point where it nearly doubled over a few years.  When I
> asked why the price rose so dramatically, I was told (twice) that “more
> people are using boats.”  This didn’t make sense to me, so this spring I
> switched from Travelers to Progressive, which did not require a survey.
> I’m back to under $1 K for the annual premium.
>
>
>
> Matt Wolford
>
> 1976 C 42 Custom
>
>
>
> *From:* David Morris via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 22, 2021 9:04 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* djmor...@djma-ltd.com
> *Subject:* Stus-List Insurance for Older Boats
>
>
>
> In the course of jumping through hoops imposed by our insurance carrier
> for our 1975 C 30 MK1, I had an email from a senior VP with Gallagher
> Skipper’s Plan that says, in part: “In the today’s market it is extremely
> difficult to find insurers willing to write sailboats over 40 years old.
> These boats have a high incidence of fires, rigging failures, pulled
> chainplates, and rudder failures and are considered high risk. Five
> insurance companies have stopped offering quotes for sailboats over 30 and
> the few that will offer it are very picky.” This, of course, is highly
> concerning. Any recommendation for a carrier that is more favourably
> inclined to cover an older boat would be most appreciated.
>
>
>
> David Morris
>
>
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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Insurance for Older Boats

[David Swensen via CnC-List]

I had also used Progressive for my  previous boat, a 75 Ranger 28.  They
were great. I think they  actually have USAA manage the policy.  Now I
have  updated to a much newer 85 C and they didn't even ask for a copy if
my survey

David Swensen
Freya
35 MK3
Beverly, MA

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 9:09 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am using Progressive and they had no issues with a 1973 boat.
>
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> Joe
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> *From:* David Morris via CnC-List 
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>
> In the course of jumping through hoops imposed by our insurance carrier
> for our 1975 C 30 MK1, I had an email from a senior VP with Gallagher
> Skipper’s Plan that says, in part: “In the today’s market it is extremely
> difficult to find insurers willing to write sailboats over 40 years old.
> These boats have a high incidence of fires, rigging failures, pulled
> chainplates, and rudder failures and are considered high risk. Five
> insurance companies have stopped offering quotes for sailboats over 30 and
> the few that will offer it are very picky.” This, of course, is highly
> concerning. Any recommendation for a carrier that is more favourably
> inclined to cover an older boat would be most appreciated.
>
>
>
> David Morris
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Stus-List Re: 2'x8' sheet of smoke grey 3/16th plexi in MD

[Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List]

I went thru this last year in CT.  Hard to cheaply get the plexi.  Local plexi 
guy in Saybrook got the 3/16 in  2064 tint and cut two windows for $450.

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Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

 Dont know your location.  I am in Michigan.  Have mine through Fremont 
Insurance Co.  Agreed value policy, inland marine policy terms with all gear, 
etc.  Reasonable and no problem.  I have been with them 10 years.  My boat is 
40 this year.  Bill Walker C 36Pentwater, Mi.
On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 09:04:30 AM EDT, David Morris via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 
In the course of jumping through hoops imposed by our insurance carrier for our 
1975 C 30 MK1, I had an email from a senior VP with Gallagher Skipper’s Plan 
that says, in part: “In the today’s market it is extremely difficult to find 
insurers willing to write sailboats over 40 years old.  These boats have a high 
incidence of fires, rigging failures, pulled chainplates, and rudder failures 
and are considered high risk. Five insurance companies have stopped offering 
quotes for sailboats over 30 and the few that will offer it are very picky.” 
This, of course, is highly concerning. Any recommendation for a carrier that is 
more favourably inclined to cover an older boat would be most appreciated.

 

David Morris



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Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

[Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List]

I've got an 84 Landfall 35 insured thru Safeco/Helmsman for less than a grand.  
Stated value is 15k and Safe Harbor makes you carry 500k liability.
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Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

I am having the same problem finding replacement hull insurance for my 1982 
Ocean Alexander 43 located in Mexico.  It was also previously insured by Geico.

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From: Matthew via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 6:18:38 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: Matthew 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats


Until recently, I had Travelers.  No major issues getting the policy in place a 
few years ago, although I needed to update the original purchase survey as I 
recall.  At the time, I transferred to Travelers from Boat US (Geico) due to 
the 80% depreciation issue.  However, Travelers raised the premium to the point 
where it nearly doubled over a few years.  When I asked why the price rose so 
dramatically, I was told (twice) that “more people are using boats.”  This 
didn’t make sense to me, so this spring I switched from Travelers to 
Progressive, which did not require a survey.  I’m back to under $1 K for the 
annual premium.



Matt Wolford

1976 C 42 Custom



From: David Morris via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 9:04 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: djmor...@djma-ltd.com
Subject: Stus-List Insurance for Older Boats



In the course of jumping through hoops imposed by our insurance carrier for our 
1975 C 30 MK1, I had an email from a senior VP with Gallagher Skipper’s Plan 
that says, in part: “In the today’s market it is extremely difficult to find 
insurers willing to write sailboats over 40 years old.  These boats have a high 
incidence of fires, rigging failures, pulled chainplates, and rudder failures 
and are considered high risk. Five insurance companies have stopped offering 
quotes for sailboats over 30 and the few that will offer it are very picky.” 
This, of course, is highly concerning. Any recommendation for a carrier that is 
more favourably inclined to cover an older boat would be most appreciated.



David Morris





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Stus-List Re: 2'x8' sheet of smoke grey 3/16th plexi in MD

[rockland bazemore via CnC-List]

hey write my normal gmail or text if you're interested because i
don't always see these cnc lists
352-215-9888

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:45 AM rockland bazemore 
wrote:

> Hey Brian, I have a good amount of 3/8"  2412 color  bronze color and am
> acquiring a 1/4" 2370 dark bronze for portlights in a couple days. Let me
> know how much u need and I'll part with it for a what i paid price.
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 3:16 PM Brian Morrison via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I can be in the New York area (NYC) and am looking to replace the windows
>> on my 1979 C How much do you have?
>>
>> Dr. Brian C. Morrison
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2021, at 12:36 PM, rockland bazemore via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Thanks Al, I just confirmed my portlights are also 1/4”. If anyone in the
>> New York area needs some 3/8” let me know!
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 12:31 PM Alan Liles via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I replaced my fixed port lights two years ago. I used 1/4 “extruded
>>> plexiglas with VHB tape and Dow 795. The plexi had enough flex to
>>> accommodate the curve of the cabin and the VHB tape held it in place. The
>>> 795 was used to seal the gap. The installation was the easiest part of that
>>> job. The removal of the old plexi and the repairs to the damaged gel coat
>>> took the most time. The guy who cut my plexi was a bit of a butcher so I
>>> spent a day with a file smoothing out the chatter marks on the edges. In
>>> the end it looked great and, so far, no leaks.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Al
>>> SV Elendil
>>> C 37/40+
>>> Vancouver BC
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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>>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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>
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Stus-List Re: 2'x8' sheet of smoke grey 3/16th plexi in MD

[rockland bazemore via CnC-List]

Hey Brian, I have a good amount of 3/8"  2412 color  bronze color and am
acquiring a 1/4" 2370 dark bronze for portlights in a couple days. Let me
know how much u need and I'll part with it for a what i paid price.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 3:16 PM Brian Morrison via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I can be in the New York area (NYC) and am looking to replace the windows
> on my 1979 C How much do you have?
>
> Dr. Brian C. Morrison
>
> On Jun 17, 2021, at 12:36 PM, rockland bazemore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks Al, I just confirmed my portlights are also 1/4”. If anyone in the
> New York area needs some 3/8” let me know!
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 12:31 PM Alan Liles via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I replaced my fixed port lights two years ago. I used 1/4 “extruded
>> plexiglas with VHB tape and Dow 795. The plexi had enough flex to
>> accommodate the curve of the cabin and the VHB tape held it in place. The
>> 795 was used to seal the gap. The installation was the easiest part of that
>> job. The removal of the old plexi and the repairs to the damaged gel coat
>> took the most time. The guy who cut my plexi was a bit of a butcher so I
>> spent a day with a file smoothing out the chatter marks on the edges. In
>> the end it looked great and, so far, no leaks.
>>
>> Cheers, Al
>> SV Elendil
>> C 37/40+
>> Vancouver BC
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help
>> with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list -
>> use PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
>> Thanks - Stu
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Stus-List Re: Insurance for Older Boats

[Matthew via CnC-List]

Until recently, I had Travelers.  No major issues getting the policy in
place a few years ago, although I needed to update the original purchase
survey as I recall.  At the time, I transferred to Travelers from Boat US
(Geico) due to the 80% depreciation issue.  However, Travelers raised the
premium to the point where it nearly doubled over a few years.  When I asked
why the price rose so dramatically, I was told (twice) that "more people are
using boats."  This didn't make sense to me, so this spring I switched from
Travelers to Progressive, which did not require a survey.  I'm back to under
$1 K for the annual premium.

 

Matt Wolford

1976 C 42 Custom

 

From: David Morris via CnC-List  
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 9:04 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: djmor...@djma-ltd.com
Subject: Stus-List Insurance for Older Boats

 

In the course of jumping through hoops imposed by our insurance carrier for
our 1975 C 30 MK1, I had an email from a senior VP with Gallagher
Skipper's Plan that says, in part: "In the today's market it is extremely
difficult to find insurers willing to write sailboats over 40 years old.
These boats have a high incidence of fires, rigging failures, pulled
chainplates, and rudder failures and are considered high risk. Five
insurance companies have stopped offering quotes for sailboats over 30 and
the few that will offer it are very picky." This, of course, is highly
concerning. Any recommendation for a carrier that is more favourably
inclined to cover an older boat would be most appreciated.

 

David Morris

 

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Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Insurance for Older Boats

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I am using Progressive and they had no issues with a 1973 boat.

Joe
Coquina

From: David Morris via CnC-List 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Insurance for Older Boats

In the course of jumping through hoops imposed by our insurance carrier for our 
1975 C 30 MK1, I had an email from a senior VP with Gallagher Skipper's Plan 
that says, in part: "In the today's market it is extremely difficult to find 
insurers willing to write sailboats over 40 years old.  These boats have a high 
incidence of fires, rigging failures, pulled chainplates, and rudder failures 
and are considered high risk. Five insurance companies have stopped offering 
quotes for sailboats over 30 and the few that will offer it are very picky." 
This, of course, is highly concerning. Any recommendation for a carrier that is 
more favourably inclined to cover an older boat would be most appreciated.

David Morris


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Stus-List Insurance for Older Boats

[David Morris via CnC-List]

In the course of jumping through hoops imposed by our insurance carrier for
our 1975 C 30 MK1, I had an email from a senior VP with Gallagher
Skipper's Plan that says, in part: "In the today's market it is extremely
difficult to find insurers willing to write sailboats over 40 years old.
These boats have a high incidence of fires, rigging failures, pulled
chainplates, and rudder failures and are considered high risk. Five
insurance companies have stopped offering quotes for sailboats over 30 and
the few that will offer it are very picky." This, of course, is highly
concerning. Any recommendation for a carrier that is more favourably
inclined to cover an older boat would be most appreciated.

David Morris



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Stus-List Re: George Harding Cuthbertson's Binder #2 C 1969 - 1972

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

Bob,

Touche' is Hull 83.  Touche' was ordered in April 1971 and was delivered to
Walet Yacht Sales, New Orleans in September 1971.  I have the original
invoice in my files.

  --
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 4:47 PM Bob Mann via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Is it possible to find build or delivery dates for specific models?  I
> have 35 mk I, hull #85.
>
> Bob
>
>
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Stus-List Re: Gooseneck fitting with bushings

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

Is heating aluminium a good idea?

On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 6:32 PM Dave S via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Quick trick when pressing in bushings is to heat the aluminum (I used a
> bbq)  and freeze/grease the bushing.  I’ve done this with bearings in a
> magnesium transaxle’s intermediate plate.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 21, 2021, at 5:22 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello all,
>
> For those of you with aluminum goosenecks like ours, I took the suggestion
> from Joel and Graham, and found bronze bushings at our local ACE hardware.
> I then drilled out the 1/2" hole to 5/8", and pressed in the bushing.  One
> bushing was a tiny bit loose in the aluminum, so I mixed up some thickened
> epoxy to ensure it won't move.  There were stainless washers, and I'm going
> to go with nylon, at least on the top and bottom.  FYI, I found very little
> wear in the hole where it attached to the boom, the wear was primarily in
> the lower hole at the bottom of the mast bracket.
>
> Hope the picture helps.
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5iixd3ooltio77/Gooseneck%20fitting%20with%20bronze%20bushings.jpg?dl=0
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C 37/40+ "Astralis"
> Madeira Beach, FL
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