Stus-List Re: Water Heater?'s

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

I have very good results with the ISOTherm (ISOTemp SPA) (e.g.: 
https://www.indelwebastomarine.com/int/isotemp/ ). Very good quality and they 
are a bit smaller (because they are round, without the box around it). They 
also come with the temperature regulator.

But this is a different brand, so may not be a good option for you.

Marek
Ottawa, ON

From: nausetbeach--- via CnC-List
Sent: September 10, 2022 12:20
To: 'Stus-List'
Cc: nausetbe...@optonline.net
Subject: Stus-List Water Heater?'s

My 4 yr old water heater started leaking as I was filling it for the first time 
this year.  It is a 6 gal. Seaward [Whale] unit and only connected to the 
engine coolant circuit [no A/C on board, just 12 V]

Planning to replace it with the same unit as that “should” be the easiest / 
quickest. Two questions for the group:

1] The heater comes in galvanized steel and white epoxy versions.  The latter 
is more $ but is it worth it from a corrosion or other standpoint?   It is not 
visible so aesthetics are not important.

2]  Found both units on Amazon for less than Defender and other distributors.  
Has anyone bought parts / equipment from Amazon Marine?  Usually Amazon 
delivers when they indicate, but I ordered some ink for a home printer and it 
still has not been delivered after 8 weeks.

Thanks,
Brian

Ps – Very sad news about Rob.  Amazing how a “simple” fall can cause a cascade 
of events.  Not much comfort, but at least it was tangentially boating related…

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List]

Sad news indeed.  He sure designed great sailboats.  We all owe him a huge 
thanks.

RIP Rob.

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


> On Sep 9, 2022, at 11:10 PM, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 
> for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Randy Stafford
> SV Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: Water Heater?'s

[ssjohnson via CnC-List]

4 years old???   Mine is probably original vintage 1984!!!  6 gal Raritan.Time 
for a different brand...Spencer Johnson 84 LF 38 "Alegria "Racine, WISent from 
my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: nausetbeach--- via CnC-List 
 Date: 9/10/22  10:19 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: 'Stus-List' 
 Cc: nausetbe...@optonline.net Subject: Stus-List Water 
Heater?'s My 4 yr old water heater started leaking as I was filling it for the 
first time this year.  It is a 6 gal. Seaward [Whale] unit and only connected 
to the engine coolant circuit [no A/C on board, just 12 V]   Planning to 
replace it with the same unit as that “should” be the easiest / quickest. Two 
questions for the group:  1] The heater comes in galvanized steel and white 
epoxy versions.  The latter is more $ but is it worth it from a corrosion or 
other standpoint?   It is not visible so aesthetics are not important.  2]  
Found both units on Amazon for less than Defender and other distributors.  Has 
anyone bought parts / equipment from Amazon Marine?  Usually Amazon delivers 
when they indicate, but I ordered some ink for a home printer and it still has 
not been delivered after 8 weeks.   Thanks,Brian Ps – Very sad news about Rob.  
Amazing how a “simple” fall can cause a cascade of events.  Not much comfort, 
but at least it was tangentially boating related…    

Stus-List Re: Water Heater?'s

[Korbey Hunt via CnC-List]

I have bought numerous boat items from Amazon with good delivery and warranty 
service, even in Mexico!  One caution, avoid item shipped from China.

Get Outlook for Android

From: nausetbeach--- via CnC-List 
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 7:19:28 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: nausetbe...@optonline.net 
Subject: Stus-List Water Heater?'s


My 4 yr old water heater started leaking as I was filling it for the first time 
this year.  It is a 6 gal. Seaward [Whale] unit and only connected to the 
engine coolant circuit [no A/C on board, just 12 V]



Planning to replace it with the same unit as that “should” be the easiest / 
quickest. Two questions for the group:



1] The heater comes in galvanized steel and white epoxy versions.  The latter 
is more $ but is it worth it from a corrosion or other standpoint?   It is not 
visible so aesthetics are not important.



2]  Found both units on Amazon for less than Defender and other distributors.  
Has anyone bought parts / equipment from Amazon Marine?  Usually Amazon 
delivers when they indicate, but I ordered some ink for a home printer and it 
still has not been delivered after 8 weeks.



Thanks,

Brian



Ps – Very sad news about Rob.  Amazing how a “simple” fall can cause a cascade 
of events.  Not much comfort, but at least it was tangentially boating related…

Stus-List Water Heater?'s

[nausetbeach--- via CnC-List]

My 4 yr old water heater started leaking as I was filling it for the first
time this year.  It is a 6 gal. Seaward [Whale] unit and only connected to
the engine coolant circuit [no A/C on board, just 12 V]  

 

Planning to replace it with the same unit as that "should" be the easiest /
quickest. Two questions for the group: 

 

1] The heater comes in galvanized steel and white epoxy versions.  The
latter is more $ but is it worth it from a corrosion or other standpoint?
It is not visible so aesthetics are not important. 

 

2]  Found both units on Amazon for less than Defender and other
distributors.  Has anyone bought parts / equipment from Amazon Marine?
Usually Amazon delivers when they indicate, but I ordered some ink for a
home printer and it still has not been delivered after 8 weeks.  

 

Thanks,

Brian

 

Ps - Very sad news about Rob.  Amazing how a "simple" fall can cause a
cascade of events.  Not much comfort, but at least it was tangentially
boating related.  

 

 

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Motion Designs Limited via CnC-List]

Yes, Rob Ball passed away yesterday morning.   I spoke with Pat his wife 
yesterday. He had contracted pneumonia from a fall on a dock that broke 4 ribs 
and punctured his lung. 

I’m always amazed how much credit my Dad got for the look of C boats and Rob 
would always credit him for his guidance but Rob certainly came in to his own 
and after taking over head designer in 1973 led the design department for 17 
years till 1990. 
So GHC was head designer of C Yachts Limited for 4 years and Rob for 17.  His 
contribution to the look and feel of the boats we love is immeasurable. 

JohnKelly Cuthbertson 

www.candcyachts.com
Motion Designs Limited
647 990 7752

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List]

Over the past year, I have seen postings on Facebook about friends who have
died, but who haven't died. Make sure this is correct before spreading
possibly false news.

Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR



On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:10 PM Randal Stafford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch
> 9/9/22 for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
>
> Respectfully,
> Randy Stafford
> SV Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Randal Stafford via CnC-List]

When I bought Grenadine, her paperwork include a C 30 lines drawing by Rob 
Ball dated 1970. I framed it and hung it on the bulkhead above the dinette. He 
once told me by email it was the first lines drawing he’d done for the Georges, 
and he was very nervous at the time. Bravo Zulu, Mr. Ball.

Gratefully,
Randy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2022, at 08:15, Edd Schillay via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Very sad news indeed. I was so thankful to meet Rob at our 2012 C 
> Rendezvous in Mystic, CT. He gave the group a great talk about the C 
> designs and he was happy to talk with owners one-on-one about their boats and 
> answer their questions. 
> 
> Here is a photo of him at Mystic checking out the Enterprise-B, a 1990 C 
> 37+:
> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QBvBegS9zXA/UG2olsTiAcI/BnU/UrjYO2tFsOs/s1600/Ball.png
>  
> 
> I posted the photo on my Captain’s Log blog and posted a survey:
> 
> What is Rob Ball thinking?
>   Hot damn, I designed a really nice boat.
>   If only she was as fast as she looks.
>   So this is the boat from the blog I keep hearing about.
>   What did this Star Trek geek freak do to my design?
> 
> The fourth was the overwhelming winner….. 
> 
> RIP Rob.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 10, 2022, at 7:43 AM, John Irvin via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> That is very sad news. Many thanks, Ron, for the gift of your talent.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 4:40 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That’s sad news. Aside from his obvious talent for designing beautiful 
>> boats that sailed as well as they looked, he was a very nice guy. I found 
>> him very generous with his time and happy to give advice on the several 
>> occasions I asked.
>> RIP, Rob.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA02840
>> 
>> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fandrewburtonyachtservices%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C50f23cc6afdb4fa44ad108da93080dc5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637983960046361519%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=Z3WX%2BkC2mjnK2MLN2bGLjHhJZFL0RH1%2BPqvv4QA3fuQ%3Dreserved=0
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 02:10, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 
>>> 9/9/22 for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
>>> 
>>> Respectfully,
>>> Randy Stafford
>>> SV Grenadine
>>> C 30 MK I #79
>>> Ken Caryl, CO
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Very sad news indeed. I was so thankful to meet Rob at our 2012 C Rendezvous 
in Mystic, CT. He gave the group a great talk about the C designs and he was 
happy to talk with owners one-on-one about their boats and answer their 
questions. 

Here is a photo of him at Mystic checking out the Enterprise-B, a 1990 C 37+:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QBvBegS9zXA/UG2olsTiAcI/BnU/UrjYO2tFsOs/s1600/Ball.png
 

I posted the photo on my Captain’s Log blog and posted a survey:

What is Rob Ball thinking?
Hot damn, I designed a really nice boat.
If only she was as fast as she looks.
So this is the boat from the blog I keep hearing about.
What did this Star Trek geek freak do to my design?

The fourth was the overwhelming winner….. 

RIP Rob.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
Bayliner 3788 | NCC-1701-C
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL










On Sep 10, 2022, at 7:43 AM, John Irvin via CnC-List  
wrote:

That is very sad news. Many thanks, Ron, for the gift of your talent.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2022, at 4:40 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s sad news. Aside from his obvious talent for designing beautiful boats 
> that sailed as well as they looked, he was a very nice guy. I found him very 
> generous with his time and happy to give advice on the several occasions I 
> asked.
> RIP, Rob.
> 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fandrewburtonyachtservices%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C50f23cc6afdb4fa44ad108da93080dc5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637983960046361519%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=Z3WX%2BkC2mjnK2MLN2bGLjHhJZFL0RH1%2BPqvv4QA3fuQ%3Dreserved=0
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 02:10, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 
>> for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
>> 
>> Respectfully,
>> Randy Stafford
>> SV Grenadine
>> C 30 MK I #79
>> Ken Caryl, CO
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Dave S via CnC-List]

RIP Rob, and thanks.

For those who have not seen this, enjoy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F5EUNYc_xiw



Dave
33-2 Windstar

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Dean McNeill via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Such sad news. 
> 
> I too have benefitted from Robs excellent design skills and his thoughtful 
> and generous advice. 
> 
> Rest In Peace sir.
> 
> Dean
> C 34
> Halifax, NS
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Fair Winds and Following Seas Rob. 
>> We are better as a sailing community and world because of your legacy. 
>> 
>> Tom
>> Therapy 
>> 29 Mk 2 
>> Solomons MD 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 2:10 AM, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 
>>> 9/9/22 for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
>>> 
>>> Respectfully,
>>> Randy Stafford
>>> SV Grenadine
>>> C 30 MK I #79
>>> Ken Caryl, CO
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Dean McNeill via CnC-List]

Such sad news. 

I too have benefitted from Robs excellent design skills and his thoughtful and 
generous advice. 

Rest In Peace sir.

Dean
C 34
Halifax, NS


> On Sep 10, 2022, at 9:05 AM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fair Winds and Following Seas Rob. 
> We are better as a sailing community and world because of your legacy. 
> 
> Tom
> Therapy 
> 29 Mk 2 
> Solomons MD 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 2:10 AM, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 
>> for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
>> 
>> Respectfully,
>> Randy Stafford
>> SV Grenadine
>> C 30 MK I #79
>> Ken Caryl, CO
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone



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Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Thomas Perison via CnC-List]

Fair Winds and Following Seas Rob. 
We are better as a sailing community and world because of your legacy. 

Tom
Therapy 
29 Mk 2 
Solomons MD 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2022, at 2:10 AM, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 
> for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Randy Stafford
> SV Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[John Irvin via CnC-List]

That is very sad news. Many thanks, Ron, for the gift of your talent.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2022, at 4:40 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s sad news. Aside from his obvious talent for designing beautiful boats 
> that sailed as well as they looked, he was a very nice guy. I found him very 
> generous with his time and happy to give advice on the several occasions I 
> asked.
> RIP, Rob.
> 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Fandrewburtonyachtservices%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C50f23cc6afdb4fa44ad108da93080dc5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637983960046361519%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=Z3WX%2BkC2mjnK2MLN2bGLjHhJZFL0RH1%2BPqvv4QA3fuQ%3Dreserved=0
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 02:10, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 
>> for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
>> 
>> Respectfully,
>> Randy Stafford
>> SV Grenadine
>> C 30 MK I #79
>> Ken Caryl, CO
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Rob Hamlin via CnC-List]

I have the honor of owning at C 37+ a wonderful design that does a lot well.  
We are lucky that his talents will live on.

Condolences to his family and friends.

Rob Hamlin
Vice Commodore 
East Greenwich Yacht Club

> On Sep 10, 2022, at 7:19 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sad news indeed.  But what a wonderful legacy he leaves behind.  He left his 
> mark on the world for years to come with the beauty, form and function of the 
> boats he designed.  Dave
> 
> David Knecht
> Rear Commodore
> Thames Yacht Club
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 4:39 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That’s sad news. Aside from his obvious talent for designing beautiful boats 
>> that sailed as well as they looked, he was a very nice guy. I found him very 
>> generous with his time and happy to give advice on the several occasions I 
>> asked.
>> RIP, Rob.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
 On Sep 10, 2022, at 02:10, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 
>>> 9/9/22 for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
>>> 
>>> Respectfully,
>>> Randy Stafford
>>> SV Grenadine
>>> C 30 MK I #79
>>> Ken Caryl, CO
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

Sad news indeed.  But what a wonderful legacy he leaves behind.  He left his 
mark on the world for years to come with the beauty, form and function of the 
boats he designed.  Dave

David Knecht
Rear Commodore
Thames Yacht Club
New London, CT



> On Sep 10, 2022, at 4:39 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s sad news. Aside from his obvious talent for designing beautiful boats 
> that sailed as well as they looked, he was a very nice guy. I found him very 
> generous with his time and happy to give advice on the several occasions I 
> asked.
> RIP, Rob.
> 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 02:10, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 
>> for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
>> 
>> Respectfully,
>> Randy Stafford
>> SV Grenadine
>> C 30 MK I #79
>> Ken Caryl, CO
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[John Christopher via CnC-List]

Very sad. What an icon.


/John

> On Sep 10, 2022, at 2:10 AM, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 
> for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Randy Stafford
> SV Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

That’s sad news. Aside from his obvious talent for designing beautiful boats 
that sailed as well as they looked, he was a very nice guy. I found him very 
generous with his time and happy to give advice on the several occasions I 
asked.
RIP, Rob.

Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Sep 10, 2022, at 02:10, Randal Stafford via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 
> for Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Randy Stafford
> SV Grenadine
> C 30 MK I #79
> Ken Caryl, CO
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Eight Bells for Rob Ball

[Randal Stafford via CnC-List]

Listers, I regret to report that Pat Mangan Ball posted end-of-watch 9/9/22 for 
Rob Ball, on the C Owners Facebook group 50 minutes ago.

Respectfully,
Randy Stafford
SV Grenadine
C 30 MK I #79
Ken Caryl, CO

Sent from my iPhone