Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII
Freya (Freiya?) Dark hull? Used to sail out of Newport? If its the boat I'm thinking of it used to be a very sharp looking boat, but abused and *very* badly maintained (I always used to think it was a real shame). Unless subsequent owners have put a pile of cash into her better examples can be found. As others have said the 35 mkiii has balsa cored hull and deck - unlike the mki and mkii which had solid hulls. When the hull is dry, they're excellent, when they're not, it is a significant expense to fix (i.e. not worth it, even if the boat is free). ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII
Hi All, asking for advice on this model. This boat “Freya is for sale. She is a centerboard model. Can anyone advise on: Suitability of 4’6” draft for Intracoastal/ Bahamas? Does the boat go to windward well with a board? Does anyone race the CB version? Weaknesses? Is the hull cored or solid? I hear decks of this era are cored and have delam issues. Suitability of this model for coastal use maybe Bahamas/ Nova Scotia/ Central America? Not ocean. Any variations of this model? For example were there tall VS short rig options etc. Many thanks, David Dawes. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII
David, I have a 35/3 keel model. Hopefully someone with a c/b version will answer those questions. The c/b version rates 6 seconds slower on the Chesapeake. Conventional wisdom is that 5 foot is the max draft for the Bahamas and ICW. Decks are cored, but if they are dry there are no issues. A moisture meter will pick up the smallest wet spot - in my case I had a missing bolt and a wet spot about 1/2 inch in diameter. I did the Annapolis Bermuda race. I would not hesitate to take her offshore again. She handled the slop beautifully. We had 7 guys on the boat for a week. The class winner was a CC 37 c/b. Only 1 rig for this model. Lots of minor variations between boats after 30 years depending on prior use. Joel On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:22 PM, David Dawes via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi All, asking for advice on this model. This boat “Freya is for sale. She is a centerboard model. Can anyone advise on: Suitability of 4’6” draft for Intracoastal/ Bahamas? Does the boat go to windward well with a board? Does anyone race the CB version? Weaknesses? Is the hull cored or solid? I hear decks of this era are cored and have delam issues. Suitability of this model for coastal use maybe Bahamas/ Nova Scotia/ Central America? Not ocean. Any variations of this model? For example were there tall VS short rig options etc. Many thanks, David Dawes. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII
David; I own a 1987 35-3 c/b and would take it anywhere ! It is quite seaworthy as Ihave taken it on ocean trips to as far as Marblehead , Mass, from the south shore of Long Island N Y. She goes very well to windward even with the board up thanks to a good sized shoal keel and inboard shrouds.Draft on this model is 4ft 2 in. Hull is cored except for thru hull areas. No delam issues,deck or hull.Boat came with spin gear but I don't think there were any differences in rig. Boat is a pleasure to sail especially to windward,although she tends to need a reef over 18 app. Idont know your sailing venue but I think you would love this boat . Good luck and happy sailing!! Lee Christiansen 1987 35-3 c/b MaggieLee -Original Message- From: David Dawes via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Mon, Oct 6, 2014 12:22 pm Subject: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII Hi All, asking for advice on this model. This boat “Freya is for sale. She is a centerboard model. Can anyone advise on: Suitability of 4’6” draft for Intracoastal/ Bahamas? Does the boat go to windward well with a board? Does anyone race the CB version? Weaknesses? Is the hull cored or solid? I hear decks of this era are cored and have delam issues. Suitability of this model for coastal use maybe Bahamas/ Nova Scotia/ Central America? Not ocean. Any variations of this model? For example were there tall VS short rig options etc. Many thanks, David Dawes. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII
David, I own a full-keel version of this model and support the sailing characteristics mentioned by others. I still have lessons to learn on how to deal with short chop upwind, but I think that's me, not the boat. I have had core issues in both the deck (outboard and astern of the chain plates) and hull (subsequently repaired at considerable effort and expense); moisture could be the determining factor in any purchase, so it may be worth a mini-survey before determining whether to proceed with a full one. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Lee via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: David; I own a 1987 35-3 c/b and would take it anywhere ! It is quite seaworthy as Ihave taken it on ocean trips to as far as Marblehead , Mass, from the south shore of Long Island N Y. She goes very well to windward even with the board up thanks to a good sized shoal keel and inboard shrouds.Draft on this model is 4ft 2 in. Hull is cored except for thru hull areas. No delam issues,deck or hull.Boat came with spin gear but I don't think there were any differences in rig. Boat is a pleasure to sail especially to windward,although she tends to need a reef over 18 app. Idont know your sailing venue but I think you would love this boat . Good luck and happy sailing!! Lee Christiansen 1987 35-3 c/b MaggieLee -Original Message- From: David Dawes via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Mon, Oct 6, 2014 12:22 pm Subject: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII Hi All, asking for advice on this model. This boat “Freya is for sale. She is a centerboard model. Can anyone advise on: Suitability of 4’6” draft for Intracoastal/ Bahamas? Does the boat go to windward well with a board? Does anyone race the CB version? Weaknesses? Is the hull cored or solid? I hear decks of this era are cored and have delam issues. Suitability of this model for coastal use maybe Bahamas/ Nova Scotia/ Central America? Not ocean. Any variations of this model? For example were there tall VS short rig options etc. Many thanks, David Dawes. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII
A 4-foot, 6-inch draft is shallow enough to go anywhere in Florida or the Bahamas. You can even sail down the Gulf side of the Keys, which is a treat, with plenty of free anchorages that have friendly tiki bars nearby. Jack Brennan Former CC 25 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. From: Tim Goodyear via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 3:08 PM To: Lee ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII David, I own a full-keel version of this model and support the sailing characteristics mentioned by others. I still have lessons to learn on how to deal with short chop upwind, but I think that's me, not the boat. I have had core issues in both the deck (outboard and astern of the chain plates) and hull (subsequently repaired at considerable effort and expense); moisture could be the determining factor in any purchase, so it may be worth a mini-survey before determining whether to proceed with a full one. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Lee via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: David; I own a 1987 35-3 c/b and would take it anywhere ! It is quite seaworthy as Ihave taken it on ocean trips to as far as Marblehead , Mass, from the south shore of Long Island N Y. She goes very well to windward even with the board up thanks to a good sized shoal keel and inboard shrouds.Draft on this model is 4ft 2 in. Hull is cored except for thru hull areas. No delam issues,deck or hull.Boat came with spin gear but I don't think there were any differences in rig. Boat is a pleasure to sail especially to windward,although she tends to need a reef over 18 app. Idont know your sailing venue but I think you would love this boat . Good luck and happy sailing!! Lee Christiansen 1987 35-3 c/b MaggieLee -Original Message- From: David Dawes via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Mon, Oct 6, 2014 12:22 pm Subject: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII Hi All, asking for advice on this model. This boat “Freya is for sale. She is a centerboard model. Can anyone advise on: Suitability of 4’6” draft for Intracoastal/ Bahamas? Does the boat go to windward well with a board? Does anyone race the CB version? Weaknesses? Is the hull cored or solid? I hear decks of this era are cored and have delam issues. Suitability of this model for coastal use maybe Bahamas/ Nova Scotia/ Central America? Not ocean. Any variations of this model? For example were there tall VS short rig options etc. Many thanks, David Dawes. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII
David, I owe a keel model also and can say the boat goes to weather like a witch. The centerboard model, with a deeper draft, should do just fine. We race a lot locally and have done very well. I raced with Joel on his 35-3 to Bermuda. The boat was solid and we never had any issues. I'd take her anywhere. I had the boat soda blasted and coated with Interprotect (barrier coat). I have had no hull issues to date, after 14 years of boat ownership. All of the rigs are the same. No tall mast options were available, that I am aware of. Some of the mast fittings may be different. My masthead has only three halyards forward (one jib halyard and two wing halyards). Others have four halyards and mast cranes, which racers might prefer. Overall it is a great boat and has provided us with a lot of pleasure. Jake Jake Brodersen Midnight Mistress CC 35 Mk-III Hampton VA -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David Dawes via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 12:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII Hi All, asking for advice on this model. This boat Freya is for sale. She is a centerboard model. Can anyone advise on: Suitability of 4'6 draft for Intracoastal/ Bahamas? Does the boat go to windward well with a board? Does anyone race the CB version? Weaknesses? Is the hull cored or solid? I hear decks of this era are cored and have delam issues. Suitability of this model for coastal use maybe Bahamas/ Nova Scotia/ Central America? Not ocean. Any variations of this model? For example were there tall VS short rig options etc. Many thanks, David Dawes. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII
I second that!!! Yanni 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S SCRC 011059 SRO 26-6483 TURBO!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!! Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes? Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack Brennan via CnC-List Sent: October 6, 2014 6:00 PM To: Tim Goodyear; cnc-list@cnc-list.com; Tim Goodyear; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII A 4-foot, 6-inch draft is shallow enough to go anywhere in Florida or the Bahamas. You can even sail down the Gulf side of the Keys, which is a treat, with plenty of free anchorages that have friendly tiki bars nearby. Jack Brennan Former CC 25 Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. From: Tim Goodyear via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 3:08 PM To: Lee mailto:lchris11...@aol.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII David, I own a full-keel version of this model and support the sailing characteristics mentioned by others. I still have lessons to learn on how to deal with short chop upwind, but I think that's me, not the boat. I have had core issues in both the deck (outboard and astern of the chain plates) and hull (subsequently repaired at considerable effort and expense); moisture could be the determining factor in any purchase, so it may be worth a mini-survey before determining whether to proceed with a full one. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Lee via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: David; I own a 1987 35-3 c/b and would take it anywhere ! It is quite seaworthy as Ihave taken it on ocean trips to as far as Marblehead , Mass, from the south shore of Long Island N Y. She goes very well to windward even with the board up thanks to a good sized shoal keel and inboard shrouds.Draft on this model is 4ft 2 in. Hull is cored except for thru hull areas. No delam issues,deck or hull.Boat came with spin gear but I don't think there were any differences in rig. Boat is a pleasure to sail especially to windward,although she tends to need a reef over 18 app. Idont know your sailing venue but I think you would love this boat . Good luck and happy sailing!! Lee Christiansen 1987 35-3 c/b MaggieLee -Original Message- From: David Dawes via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Mon, Oct 6, 2014 12:22 pm Subject: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII Hi All, asking for advice on this model. This boat “Freya is for sale. She is a centerboard model. Can anyone advise on: Suitability of 4’6” draft for Intracoastal/ Bahamas? Does the boat go to windward well with a board? Does anyone race the CB version? Weaknesses? Is the hull cored or solid? I hear decks of this era are cored and have delam issues. Suitability of this model for coastal use maybe Bahamas/ Nova Scotia/ Central America? Not ocean. Any variations of this model? For example were there tall VS short rig options etc. Many thanks, David Dawes. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _ http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII
David, I have an '87 35-3 CB and am on the gulf coast of FL. Spent 3 weeks in Abacos last summer without draft issues. Great boat. That said the real issue on a 30 year old boat is how it has been maintained for 30 years. I got lucky. Kim Brown TrustMe!!! 35-3 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII
I should mention that David is one of the more experienced professional captains around. Tells you something about our boats when people like him fall in love with them! Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Oct 6, 2014, at 21:18, Kim Brown via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: David, I have an '87 35-3 CB and am on the gulf coast of FL. Spent 3 weeks in Abacos last summer without draft issues. Great boat. That said the real issue on a 30 year old boat is how it has been maintained for 30 years. I got lucky. Kim Brown TrustMe!!! 35-3 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 1984 CC 35 MIII
We all got lucky. The 35-3 is a great boat, I have heard nothing but praise from the owners regardless of minor problems like hauntings. For a 30-year old boat, I think we're doing really well. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 6 October 2014 18:25, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I should mention that David is one of the more experienced professional captains around. Tells you something about our boats when people like him fall in love with them! Andy CC 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Oct 6, 2014, at 21:18, Kim Brown via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: David, I have an '87 35-3 CB and am on the gulf coast of FL. Spent 3 weeks in Abacos last summer without draft issues. Great boat. That said the real issue on a 30 year old boat is how it has been maintained for 30 years. I got lucky. Kim Brown TrustMe!!! 35-3 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
