I’m going to insert a comment here on keeping perspective with PHRF ratings. I
recently had a conversation with an individual affiliated with our local
ratings and he commented that 3 secs equates to approximately 1 boat length for
every mile raced. So as nice as it is to get 3 or 6 secs,
CC 30 168 185 174
CC 30 (1-506) 171 174 171
CC 30 SD 172 184 177
I have a 1981 CC 30MK 1
Not sure the difference of the described above, Well I do know that the
last one is the Sheol draft version. but not sure the (1-501) is that the
HIN # mine is 675?
I may ease into the local Frost-bite
11:08 AM
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Subject: Stus-List PHRF ratings? What boat is mine?
CC 30 168 185 174
CC 30 (1-506) 171 174 171
CC 30 SD 172 184 177
I have a 1981 CC 30MK 1
Not sure the difference of the described above, Well I do know that the
last one is the Sheol draft version
I have one of those!
Rich Knowles
INDIGO LF38
Halifax, NS.
On Jan 15, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
I do fly a pole-less asymmetrical cursing spinnaker.
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CC 30 168 185 174
CC 30 (1-506) 171 174 171
CC 30 SD 172 184 177
I have a 1981 CC 30MK 1
Not sure the difference
My 30mkI was hull 677 from 1981. It’s my impression that they never got past
700.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Jan 15, 2014, at 10:39 AM, Gary Nylander gnylan...@atlanticbb.net wrote:
And, I don't know the last one built
: Stus-List PHRF ratings? What boat is mine?
I have always wondered about that as well. The 1-506 version is what we
have - the earliest ones had the boom a foot lower than ours, but they
modified that after the first ones were built - too many headaches. I
don't know why the listings cut off at 506
.
And, I don't know the last one built - yours is the highest number I've seen.
Gary
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Mine has a 2 blade folding
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Milwaukee, WI
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:39 PM
To: Dennis C.; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
Rick, I really like this idea!
JT
Delaney
CC 38 MK II
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I help out with a local charity regatta called Pirates on the Pungo.
http://www.piratesonpungo.org We are planning to do a couple of special
trophies this year, one of which will go to the CC sailboat that finishes
Of Rick Brass
Sent: February 28, 2013 2:42 AM
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Subject: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
I help out with a local charity regatta called Pirates on the
Pungo. http://www.piratesonpungo.org We are planning to do a couple
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Sounds like your trophy winners will be determined by the math you use.OK if
everyone understands and accepts that.Spinnaker boats and non spinnaker
boats in the same race is about as bad as racing gets IMHO.might as well all
just go
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Agreed Dwight. I can't envision a way that this would turn out well. Seems
like you need two fleets or a course that has little or no downwind legs.
You could also just say no handicap for non-spin or just not allow any
spinnakers. I'm
me
offline.
Gary Nylander
St. Michaels MD
gnylan...@atlanticbb.net
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From: Rick Brass
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:41 AM
Subject: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
I help out with a local charity regatta called
rating, usually a 3 second difference.
Gary Nylander
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From: Rick Brass
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
Just for clarification, the race in question is a middle
28, 2013 1:46 am
Subject: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
I help out with a local charity regatta called Pirates on the Pungo.
http://www.piratesonpungo.org We are planning to do a couple of special
trophies this year, one of which will go to the CC sailboat that finishes
first
FWIW West Florida PHRF uses a 26 sec non-spin offset (in our light air
downwind work can be slw for a non-spinn boat). Though the classes
rarely race against each other and the only impact tends to be in small
races or some regattas looking to score some sort of overall. Since this
is a
Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net
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Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 1:46 am
Subject: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
I help out with a local charity regatta called Pirates on the Pungo.
http://www.piratesonpungo.org We are planning to do a couple of special
: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
I help out with a local charity regatta called Pirates on the Pungo.
http://www.piratesonpungo.org We are planning to do a couple of special
trophies this year, one of which will go to the CC sailboat that finishes
first in the long pursuit race
PHRF-LO (Lake Ontario) has done a study of Flying and Non flying ratings and
the spread between the two is adjusted for each type of boat.
PHRF-LO has made a lot of changes to try to make the completion fair ... for
instance in 2012 the add on for a fixed 2 bladed prop out of aperture was
It's interesting to contemplate the notion of fairness in a competition replete
with random inequalities and more inconsistencies than constants. Cruising
sounds a lot more rewarding and less stressful than handicap racing these days.
At least for an old duffer:)
Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
for the trash talking at the post race party
James
Delaney
CC 38 MK II
Oriental, NC
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From: Tim Goodyear
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
I would lend my support
, February 28, 2013 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
As a competitor who is hopefully going to be entered in the event that you
are talking about. I would suggest that you pick a number, 12 or 15(it
doesn't really matter) and go with it. People who have the crew
Rick, I really like this idea!
JT
Delaney
CC 38 MK II
Oriental, NC
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From: Dennis C.
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
We used to have fundraiser regattas where
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