On my 34, I rarely used the babystay, but did so occasionally for rough
conditions so I did not want to get rid of it. Because it was constantly in
the way, I replaced the wire stay with a heavy-load, low-stretch line (much
easier to deal with). It seemed to work just as well.
From: dwight
Wow! Thank you Rob; This is one of the most amazing things I have learned from
this list; I have defended the babystay to jib trimmers ad nauseam over the
years under the premise that "C put them on there...they must be required";
We sail on a river, so we do not get the heavy pumping
We supplied the boats with Baby Stays, knowing that the mast could be tuned
with a bit of bend so that it was not needed. However, when the boat was brand
new, on the first sail, and not tuned yet, things could go south. So, we kept
them on the boats.
In a violent seaway they do stabilize a
Hi Neil
Can you send a link to where I can see how to tie “Halyard Knot”? I would like
to use that instead of bowline on my jib halyard
Mike
Persistence
Halifax
No snow here … yet!
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Mike,
Here is a good visual link to several useful knots. In all my years of
sailing (and tying loads while working in a lumber yard) I had not
discovered the halyard knot.
https://www.animatedknots.com/indexboating.php
Neil Schiller
1983 C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
On
https://www.animatedknots.com/halyard/index.php
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:33 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Hi Neil
>
>
>
> Can you send a link to where I can see how to tie “Halyard Knot”? I would
> like to use that instead of bowline on my jib halyard
>
>
>
> Mike
I just ordered these, but there are dozens to pick from. Most are kind of big
for pumping a few quarts of water.
https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Wave-Dredger-Ground-Winter/dp/B00FWOHJFS?SubscriptionId=AKIAJ2WSQIQLDL22FHMA
I use a small wet/dry shopvac when I need to empty wet areas.
Dennis C.
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 1:21 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Has anyone ever used one of these to suck out that last ¼” of water from
> the bilge?
>
> I am thinking specifically of removing
Splicing double-braid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UghIS9xdiDw
Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY
On 11/8/2018 1:44 PM, John Conklin via CnC-List wrote:
Yes, I was planning on asking about the Halyard Knot as well. I too
have never heard of it ? This is a great Link !!
I
Bill, can you send a link or the name of the pump? Thanks
Richard
s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255
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Wade,
Once we went to In-Line shrouds as opposed to double lowers, the baby stay was
introduced to tension the mast forward . . .
With experience, most boats were able to eliminate the use of the baby stay if
you had even a small amount of pre-bend aft. We couldn’t rely on you setting
the
It would be easy enough to make a rule that any messages that contain "List
Digest" in the subject line automatically go into the circular file.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 06:45, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
wrote:
> How about rejecting messages that
You may also want to check out small fountain pumps. I bought one at Lowe’s. I
use it to pump out a low spot on my walk way where water somehow finds its way
into the basement. Time to dig up the concrete, but this is a good interim.
Gary
St. Michaels MD
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Hi Rob,
are you speaking specifically of C 34's in this comment? My boat is a 33
MKII and I wonder if I might be able to do without my baby stay? I am 80%
cruiser, 20% racer on Lake of the Woods in Ontario so big seas are not
something I have to deal with. What would I sacrifice without the
I also use a wet-dry vac for this purpose. I do not want to use the bilge pump
because: a) the winter cover plugs the hole in the transom; and b) I winterized
the pump with anti-freeze.
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Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 2:29 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject:
Has anyone ever used one of these to suck out that last ¼ of water from the
bilge?
I am thinking specifically of removing Mast Water from the bilge during the
winter, Altho it might be handy during the season. My bilge now has a rule
1500 which works fine as long as you have at least 3 of
This topic has been discussed before. I'm an advocate of the "double
overhand on a itself" for halyard shackles. Both the halyard knot and the
double overhand are likely to get jammed and you will likely find it
necessary to cut the knot if removal becomes necessary. The reason I
advocate for a
Yes, I was planning on asking about the Halyard Knot as well. I too have never
heard of it ? This is a great Link !!
I also thought there was only 1 proper cleat Hitch as shown for the Halyard
Cleat Hitch. The Cleat Hitch for deck I have also never seem. Now if I can get
the best video for
My experience in the 1990s when I first started racing keelboats in San
Francisco Bay was that everyone took off their baby stays for the reasons
people have already shared on this list. I never saw a problem on Santa
Cruz, Olson, boats.
My 36-1 has the baby stay removed and has been fine,
My 1995 36XL/kcb was on the hard for the past several months for bottom work.
She had many layers of bottom paint sanded off to the gelcoat, barrier coats
(x2) applied and then spray painted with
Black Widow bottom paint which was then burnished/fine sanded to a very smooth
finish.
Before
I would use this.
http://www.apsltd.com/t-ball-bail-5-32.html
Choose the right size for your rope selection. I would choose something
like 5/32 or 3/16 amsteel.
http://www.apsltd.com/hardware/wire-and-wire-fittings/t-ball-fittings-and-plates-j-hooks.html
Use a locked brummel splice and luggage
I find the baby stay is an essential part for controlling mast pumping and
flattening the mainsail especially when racing. I was amazed at how much the
mast pumped without the baby stay when going to windward in 15 knots apparent
and one to two foot seas. Just lie on the deck and look up the
Here's my video
https://youtu.be/n6B0IPKQERc
See responses below
> 1. I used a tape measure and the keel/cb bolts look to be 1" in diameter
> and the nuts require a 1.5" socket. Per the keel bolt specs from the photo
> album, this requires 350 ft lbs of torque. The torque wrenches I have
>
John,
I agree. I sited up the mast on Glenn Gambel's C 36 during the Queens
cup race and notice how much the mast was pumping. I tightened the baby
stay as much as I could without using a winch and it quieted down
significantly.
I was not very familiar with a baby stay with our Redwing
My boat came with a baby stay on a Schaeffer track. I replaced the track
with a Harken high profile track and a Harken traveler car. I can snug it
by hand, but I can also lead it to a spinnaker halyard winch through a
Lewmar clutch. In light air, I release the clutch, and push the BS back to
the
I did my sheets, even though hot hay had some use but I think brand new lines
are probably essential. I used one of Brian Toss’ wands...it really made it
simple, as did his related video...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAbM539i4biXLeVK7Teo2fO0spp15Zo-R
Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera
1990
Charlie,
1. Your torque wrench should be reading torque at the head. For 250
foot pounds with a 2.5 ft wrench you would need to apply 100 pounds of
force, 200 pounds of force would achieve 500 foot pounds but the torque
wrench would have already clicked or maxed out on the scale.
2.
Matthew- what did you use for a mast fitting at the top of your
babystay line?
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Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 7:17 AM
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Cc: Matthew
That was a long time ago, but here’s my best recollection:
Looking on-line, I believe we used a high-load Wichard head thimble shackle --
the kind with the blue plastic to hold the spliced eye. I had the eye
professionally spliced by Rigging Only. As I recall, the pin was undersized
for the
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