Tri-XML: Introduction to Cocoon + lab in Research Triangle Park,NC: July 25th & 26

2003-06-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
lopers who have not been exposed to Cocoon. This is a 2 day XML conference. Entrance is $110 or $100 in advance (students $40). There are only about 40 seats left which doesn't bode well for anyone planning to pay at the door. Anyone is welcome to attend. -Andy -- Andrew

Re: POI components....

2003-01-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I always planned to but the serializer never seemed to make the waves I'd hoped for. I needed more feedback and it needed more of a community...So I waited. Some refactoring is going on for HSSF, once thats done the generator effort will be effortless. I'm also considering abandoning gnumeri

JSR-168 Pluto

2003-01-21 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Those Jetspeed and Cocoon Portal committers whom are interested should please add themselves as an initial committer http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?PlutoProposal and participate in the currently scattered discussions on: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank

Re: HSSFSerializer - Extensions?

2003-01-05 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Cool. Thanks Jody! Jody Goldberg wrote: On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 11:24:10AM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Jody Goldberg wrote: - merge the various bits of view information out of their multiple records might hurt us depending on what you have in mind (but I doubt it because it would

RSS feed for ApacheWiki now in beta test

2003-01-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Give it a whirl: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewikitest.cgi?action=rss If its good... I'll move it over in place of the existing script. Apparently it doesn't do everything in the RSS that would make some people happy... If you have suggestions, patch this: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/

Re: HSSFSerializer - Extensions?

2003-01-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Jody Goldberg wrote: On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 12:31:07PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: My preference would be (this markup is off the top of my head and not intended to be accurate, just give the picture): color, background, etc Yup that was pretty much what I was

Re: HSSFSerializer - Extensions?

2003-01-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ted Kaczmarek wrote: I am fairly ignorant on xml, but the other day I wanted to be able to color code a spreadsheet. My hope was to open up the gnumeric doc saved as xml, look at the fields I color coded and do the rest of the changes with %s/ in vi.Is their was for an xml doc generated by gnumer

Re: HSSFSerializer - Extensions?

2002-12-31 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
icient). Furthermore it allows you to assign one style to multiple regions... Thats been our #1 gripe for like a year now (but I never said anything about it so its my fault ;-) )... Hope that helps... -Andy On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 02:39:05PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: My thought wo

Re: HSSFSerializer - Extensions?

2002-12-30 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
My thought would be to make the changes acceptable but not required and notify the gnumeric folks (http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list) about the extensions. They might be interested in implementing them. For the actually SCHEMA, create a different schema based on the original

Re: HSSF Serializer Questions

2002-12-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Danny Mui wrote: I'm currently in the process of enhancing the serializer to support more features (one pending patch in bugzilla for gnumeric merged regions..) and was wondering one thing. Is there a reason why the latest 1.9 dev snapshot is not being used as the target? There's a minor A

Re: Participation in the Cocoon PMC

2002-12-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ok, this should have given you enough information. Now, please, answer this question: - would you like to partecipate in the Cocoon PMC? [X] yes - If needed. (but I'm fine with the reverse as well) [ ] no Please send your vote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that it can be pubblically revi

Compile problem (HEAD)

2002-12-03 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
BUILD FAILED file:/home/andy/opensource/cocoon/xml-cocoon2/build.xml:1310: IOException: java.io.IOException: XPath (/cocoon/input-modules) returned not one node, but 0 nodes Total time: 1 minute 22 seconds [andy@localhost xml-cocoon2]$ So I checked out, and ran the build.sh clean compile instal

Re: The organization of xml.apache.org

2002-12-02 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
What I like most about such a proposal is that it is completely up to the commiters to decide whether they want opt in or opt out. What do others think? It continues to sound reasonable to me, but I'd personally like to see the Jakarta "brand" continue. Not sure how to *do* that... I don't

Re: [RT] Making Cocoon instance available to other components

2002-11-29 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ahh..gotcha. I thought you were implying it didn't need to be "componentized" in such a way. Sylvain Wallez wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I disagree. It should be a component. What if I want to use cocoon for transformations/etc outside the context of a servlet? (I might

Re: [RT] Making Cocoon instance available to other components

2002-11-29 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Right. I've seen it. He said it doesnn't "need" to be. Thats the part I disagreed with. Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I disagree. It should be a component. What if I want to use cocoon for transformations/etc outside the context of a servlet?

Re: [RT] Making Cocoon instance available to other components

2002-11-29 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I disagree. It should be a component. What if I want to use cocoon for transformations/etc outside the context of a servlet? (I might soon). -Andy The Cocoon object is an Avalon component, but in fact doesn't need to be : it is conceptually a container, which loads the configuration, creat

Re: [vote] Cocoon citizenship for Matthew Langham

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
+1 for Matthew. Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Wednesday 27 November 2002 14:45, Matthew Langham wrote: . . .can't we add "Cocoon authors" to the PMC list :-). Can't we add "cocoon evangelists" to it? All right. I hereby propose Matthew Langham for commit acce

Re: OT: Cocoon Stammtisch @ Frankfurt

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Disregard.. I just read again that its Frankfurt not Munich... got myself confused... sorry. :-) Andrew C. Oliver wrote: While its not particularly close to the airport, it was only like 4-8 marks (IIRC) into town via the S-bahn (no idea what the Euro has done to costs in EuropeI can&#

Re: OT: Cocoon Stammtisch @ Frankfurt

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
While its not particularly close to the airport, it was only like 4-8 marks (IIRC) into town via the S-bahn (no idea what the Euro has done to costs in EuropeI can't imagine its been good). There is a decent/cheap hotel near Isator platz in between the McDonalds and Burger King (friends set

Re: [proposal] Board Resolution for the creation of Cocoon PMC

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
+1 for the proposal. "I guess thats me." to the below All right. Ah, BTW, the PMC is supposed to be composed of *all* the active cocoon committers, since I did this list a while ago I could have missed somebody. If so, please, speak up. I'll prepare the draft ASAP. -

Re: [PROPOSAL] Morphos in Cocoon

2002-11-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Comments and suggestions are very welcome as always :-) My suggestion is to keep this on stand-by until we have a Cocoon PMC. sounds logical and fair enough. - To unsubs

Re: [PROPOSAL] Morphos in Cocoon

2002-11-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I can't currently see the benefit of this move - as far as I understand it _Morphos_ has a much wider (or different) scope than Cocoon - so why should it be part. No. Morphos has a much narrower scope and should be a Cocoon block or set of blocks. For deserializing binary formats as XML and

Re: Cocoon Real-Life Events

2002-11-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
OTOH, for Xers, it is more interesting to have a whole day of 'X' instead of some 'X' with some 'Y' interspersed. I believe this was part of the succes of Gent. If interesting stuff gets mixed with less interesting stuff (the Xers will value the Y stuff less, and the other way around), chances

Re: Cocoon Real-Life Events

2002-11-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I feel this criticism is unjust. MHO. It would probably be next to impossible to arrange such an event without sponsors, and even more difficult to land such a sizeable sponsorship without them wanting something in return. Secondly, we had some clue about what the talk would be like and no o

Re: OT: Cocoon Stammtisch @ Frankfurt

2002-11-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
They allow vegetarians into Germany? Jeremy Quinn wrote: On Sunday, Nov 24, 2002, at 12:40 Europe/London, Michael Hartle wrote: You can order your Schnitzel in 3 different sizes ("1/4 of a pig", "1/2 of a pig", "complete pig"); the latter two tend to be bigger then the plates, and you get

Re: OT: Cocoon Stammtisch @ Frankfurt

2002-11-24 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
God you're making me hungy... Add Radies to the mix and I'd be crying right now. I lost 10 lbs (literally) in Vegas last week (at the Apachecon) with that dammed stomache virus and I'm eating everything in siteI could probably eat the whole pig ! ;-) -Andy Michael Hartle wrote: Hello a

Re: Cocoon Real-Life Events

2002-11-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Sally and I specifically discussed potential ways that the ASF could be involved in project-specific events, hopefully being able to delegate as much as possible to others project-specific volunteers. How this could be accomplished and the role on the foundation (expecially on the economical s

Re: Flow wishlist :)

2002-11-23 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Torsten Curdt wrote: We must do *everything* possible to prevent abuse of the flowscript layer. In fact, at the Cocoon BOF, several people expressed this concern of seeing script kiddies coming from the flash world abusing the flowscript and making the whole thing unmaintainable. th

Re: [vote] Andrew Oliver commit access

2002-11-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
thanks all :-) Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: I would like to propose Andrew Oliver for commit access. Andrew is one of the authors of Apache POI and has earned commit access on several java-related apache projects. Recentely, he was nominated member of the ASF and elected. He has submitted several

Re: [vote] Andrew Oliver commit access

2002-11-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
+1 No need to write the tests for all, simply setup the needed environment and [force] everybody to write tests for the code they feel responsible for. I'll prefer embarrasment and [harrassment] to [force] ;-) Konstantin -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [vote] Andrew Oliver commit access

2002-11-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
PS Andrew, how this relates to "too many cooks in the kitchen"? ;-) The addition of a bus boy/dish washer reduces the effects of the law of dimeninshing returns ;-) Vadim Please, place your vote. - To unsubscribe,

Re: Cocoon BOF at ApacheCon

2002-11-21 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Stefano is freaking evil looking in the second picture.. look at his glowing red eyes!!! Matthew Langham wrote: I see there was a Cocoon BOF at ApacheCon. Here is a link: http://osi.livejournal.com/ Some pictures in there also (including Stefano). Matthew -- Open Source Group Cocoon {

[Fwd: [Juglist] Monday night - Introduction to Cocoon 2.0]

2002-10-20 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
(forwarding to POI only because I'll briefly cover the HSSF Serializer [XLS/Excel] and be glad to answer any questions) -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http:

Re: -apps has been created

2002-09-07 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
John Morrison wrote: >Root graciously create xml-cocoon2-apps for us and gave >access to current xml-cocoon2 developers. > >Other users should be added by somebody (other than >root!) who has permission to manipulate CVSROOT. > >I *think* these are: > >brian,coar,dirkx,pier,craigmcc,manoj,fieldin

All database using samples broken in the HEAD.

2002-09-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Every single sample using HSQL datasources are all broken. I tried upping the connections to 5 but that didn't work either. Anyone been playing in the datasource area lately? Thanks, Andy (example stack trace below, but EVERY sample using SQL will give you one) ==> webapps/cocoon/WEB-INF/log

Re: cocoon apps module

2002-08-31 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
muchos gracias! -Andy John Morrison wrote: >Requested, but not heard anything. Will follow up when I get back >to work on Monday. > >J. > > > >>-Original Message----- >>From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Thursday, 29 Aug

cocoon apps module

2002-08-29 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Hi, So lots of votes and I saw no -1s so can someone request that root create the cocoon-apps module? I'm nearly ready to submit my contribution. Thanks, Andy -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Docu

Re: [VOTE] new cvs modules/lists (was RE: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-appsCVS module)

2002-08-29 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > Aaaah. Wisdom. Thanks, Nicola and John. > > Maybe we should now carry on this discussion on > [EMAIL PROTECTED], just for fun and procrastination ;-) > > LOL lets not and say we did. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

[Fwd: Re: CInclude bug??? (And my upcoming patch)]

2002-08-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
apurva zaveri wrote: >Thats great Andy! > >Let us know when you submit the fix. > >Also is there a way one can find out every time a new >fix or a patch is submitted??? I am still quite new to >cocoon. > >-Apurva > >--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: New "module" terminology: WAS: Extending the build system for modules

2002-08-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ken... I love you man and I trust your judgement... Just do me this favor...whatever you do...make it easy for my little mind to install and configurepretty please.. And Wiki the hell out of it. Thanks, -Andy Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > Conal Tuohy wrote: > >> I realise that "block

Re: [Fwd: Encoding in HSSF (XLS) Serializer]

2002-08-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
SSF for encoding. >I don't understand what I should set and where I can get encoding mode or >type? >Suppose I get encoding mode from Configuration but where source for >encoding? >void setEncoding( ) { > ???? >} >pls explain bit more. >Thanks a lot, >Hi

SOLVED: Re: [Fwd: Loading data in an Action with XMLForm]

2002-08-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I figured it out.. The problem was about 6 layers deeper than I thought. Rackin up some RFEs for XMLForm Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > Damn! This is going to really suck. > > Piroumian Konstantin wrote: > >>> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>>

Re: [Fwd: Loading data in an Action with XMLForm]

2002-08-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Damn! This is going to really suck. Piroumian Konstantin wrote: >>From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >>(because I don't think anyone involved with XMLForm reads the >>user list) >> > > > Ivelin is on vacation that's why he d

Re: Cocoon apps Web site hosting

2002-08-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > > > One issue I see, as somebody else noted as well, is that different examples > will need possibly different versions of Cocoon. We need to manage this > complexity somehow. > > I recommend getting with Nicola Ken and coming up with a solution using centipede.. The Cooon-apps module c

[Fwd: Loading data in an Action with XMLForm]

2002-08-17 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
(because I don't think anyone involved with XMLForm reads the user list) --- Begin Message --- Hi all, I'm trying to make all the forms on www.superlinksoftware.com/cocoon/samples/bringmethis/ support a "modify" mode. In order to do that I need to let the user enter his name and password, s

Re: [PROPOSAL] "sexy" Cocoon Demo App Idea

2002-08-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I was referring to the product name Geoff Howard wrote: >Sorry for the mistake about Wiki's history. > >You've never heard of a discussion forum / web board? > >Geoff > >-----Original Message- >From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent

Re: [PROPOSAL] "sexy" Cocoon Demo App Idea

2002-08-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >>- it's more of an established concept than Wiki (no offense - >>not trying to >>shut that down) >> >> Wow...Thats amazing since Wikis trace their origins back to like 1991 or so, and Ward Cunningham... There are HUGE wikis and well I've never heard of what you're talking about... N

Re: Cocoon Blocks

2002-08-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
+1 -- - As I understand it Blocks are a solution to world hunger, documentation, complexity, the meaning of life and why the local bars and taxi companies in many college towns close simultaneously at 2:00am. I'd like to see Blocks matched to WHAT they solve (Show cause and effect), totally w

Re: Cocoon Blocks

2002-08-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
But WHAT problems does it solve? Can we drill down into a bit more detail? -andy Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >On Monday 12 August 2002 12:13, Leigh Dodds wrote: > > >>Can anyone point me to some documentation, list discussion threads, or >>even scratchpad stuff that describes/demonstrates wha

Re: xml-cocoon2-apps - who to give karma to...?

2002-08-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Morrison, John wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I've sent a request for xml-cocoon2-apps to be created. The next >> thing is... who should have access (apart from xml-cocoon2 >> committers)...? > > > I propose >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module

2002-08-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > Thank you very much :-) > Since the community is accepting the proposed addendum, I'll leave > some more days for the vote, because it's so important, and then send > the PMC final addendum with the request of the CVS module. send it to root as well ;-) > > Thanks again :-) > >> Ted >> >>

Re: [VOTE] new cvs modules/lists (was RE: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-appsCVS module)

2002-08-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > > >BTW, John, you started this vote in a very clever way: You give >two alternatives for a vote, but vote for one of them with a >binding "-1" - so actually, with that "-1" we would have no >choice ;-) That's a great idea, I will try this, too. > > If I see [VOTE] Line item veto authority..

Re: [VOTE] new cvs modules/lists (was RE: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-appsCVS module)

2002-08-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
John Morrison wrote: >[Vote 1] >[+1] Seperate "apps" module: xml-cocoon2-apps > > non-binding +1 >[Vote 2] >[+1] cvs ci for xml-cocoon2-apps goes to list xml-cocoon2-cvs > non binding +1 >[-1] cvs ci for xml-cocoon2-apps goes to list xml-cocoon2-apps-cvs > > non binding -1 >I feel happi

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module

2002-08-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > >> I'm -1 (non binding) on a seperate cocoon-docs module. -Andy > > > PS note that I never talked about a *completely* separate module, but > a hack to make doc committers have karma only to the xdocs dir

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module

2002-08-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I'm -1 (non binding) on a seperate cocoon-docs module. -Andy Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Thanks to Andy and John for coming in :-) > > Morrison, John wrote: > >>> From: Sam Ruby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> >> Hi Sam :) >> >> And

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module

2002-08-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
1. Scope 2. Its more of a Subproject of Cocoon. 3. Commiters of the main project vote to appoint committers to the cocoon-apps, the reverse is not true. look at the Jakarta Lucene project's lucene-sandbox. This is Exactly what we want to do. The Lucene Sandbox has committers voted in by the L

Re: Cocoon apps Web site hosting

2002-08-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ovidiu Predescu wrote: >I think what we need to come up with is a general structure for the projects >hosted. What exactly do we want to offer? This is the list I can think of so >far: > >EUR CVS repository. Some developers might already have their own CVS >repositories, perhaps at SF, but others

Re: Cocoon apps Web site hosting

2002-08-11 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
How can I help? -Andy Ovidiu Predescu wrote: >Steven, > >I've already paid money to get an account to an ISP for exactly this type of >setup. At that time I was talking to other cocoon developers about setting >up such a site to showcase Cocoon. Unfortunately, none of us had sufficient >spare

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module

2002-08-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ivelin Ivanov wrote: >The feeling of a live & strong community compares to nothing! > > > While I may agree, I do not understand how that related to what I just said ;-) -Andy > >- Original Message ----- >From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module

2002-08-10 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >It would be great if Dianna embraces this process and applies her >coordinator role to decide when the content on the "development" site (Wiki >that is) is ready for release on the main site. > > > +1 >For starters, a link should be added on the Cocoon Links page to the wiki. > > +1 (I'

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module

2002-08-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Coming very soon. Next few weeks I'm wrapping up the Bringmethis example. My interest in these grew from that. I'm also working on some paid commercial stuff that has gotten in the way but I'm very close. -Andy Ivelin Ivanov wrote: >Andy, > >on another note, you mentioned you were planni

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module

2002-08-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ivelin Ivanov wrote: >Andy, > >- Original Message - >From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 7:31 AM >Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module > > > > >>Hi Iv

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module

2002-08-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Totally agree. Morrison, John wrote: >I'm +1 for a seperate -apps module. I'm assuming that >CVS commits would still come through to xml-cocoon2-cvs >and there won't (?) be a seperate email list (atm) for >discussion? > >J. > > >==

Re: [PROPOSAL] Cocoon-apps CVS module

2002-08-09 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
. > >Documentation is still a big problem. >Look at the emails on the cocoon-user list. People are asking for >documentation and examples. >Let's finish that first and then integrate with Forrest. > >Am I totally out of whack here ?-) > >Cheers, > >Ivelin >

Re: XInclude support

2002-08-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Arnaud Le Hors wrote: > Hi all, > The W3C XML Core Working Group is trying to gather feedback on > implementation experience of XInclude. Could somebody tell me what the > status of the implementation is? Is this in line with the latest > version of the spec at http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/CR-xin

Re: [Proposal] Cocoon Organization

2002-07-31 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Konstantin Piroumian wrote: >An alternative proposal: >- Cocoon 2 Micro Edition (C2ME): basic functionality/components >- Cocoon 2 Standard Edition (C2SE): most frequently used >functionality/components >- Cocoon 2 Enterprise Edition (C2EE): complete suit, including flow >control, for

Re: [Proposal] Cocoon Organization

2002-07-31 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
This sounds like it could be an undue burden on the users. I think what really needs to be done is an improvement in the build system. Something more aken to the Linux "MenuConfig" or "XConfig" rather than try and break the project up at this point. I think what will probably happen is it wil

Re: [Proposal] Cocoon Organization

2002-07-31 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
+1 Argyn Kuketayev wrote: >whatever you do, the option to have everything in one jar/war must be >preserved. I'd rather deal with one elephant, than 25 rhinos. > > > >>-Original Message- >>From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:09 PM >>To: [

Re: [Proposal] Cocoon Organization

2002-07-31 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >Yes, you may use only one or two. But think about it: right now there is >no one, commonly shared syntax for these two (esql and transformer), and >they have no common roots, they are not well integrated. > >If you to put esql and sql transformer into different subprojects, then >situation wi

Re: [Proposal] Cocoon Organization

2002-07-31 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > Sounds a good idea - but *please* lets make sure it's still easy to > download and build everything. I don't think I'm alone in finding > Avalon building hard to get to grips with. +1 > > Stuart. > >Public Key - 1024D/88DD65AF 2001-11-23 Stuart Roebuck > (Adolos) > K

Re: [Fwd: Re: Good Software/Documentation was Re: I need your advice]

2002-07-28 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
ast): if your team doesn't score, > fire the coach, not the players who're picking their noses ;-) > > > ;-) > > tomK > > > > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > >> This is TOTALLY true. >> >> -

Re: [Fwd: Re: Good Software/Documentation was Re: I need your advice]

2002-07-28 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
doesn't > succeed. Just because they're the last in line. Don't join that party, > it becomes very frustrating. > > In the mean time, I hope the programming business will follow after > the soccer business (in Belgium at least): if your team doesn't score, > f

[Fwd: Re: Good Software/Documentation was Re: I need your advice]

2002-07-28 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
This is TOTALLY true. --- Begin Message --- > Is there any reason to believe that something along the lines of > literate programming will play a role in bridging the gap between > good software, bad documentation? I have reason to believe the opposite, sadly. Java made an attempt to pick up o

[RT] To SAX or not to SAX (was: Re: Excel generator)

2002-07-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Here's the thing. Everytime I start to write one I get caught in a delimma. Within POI (http://jakarta.apache.org/poi) the current "eventmodel" (http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/javadocs/org/apache/poi/hssf/eventmodel/package-summary.html for javadoc or http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/javadocs/ja

help - could someone please apply patch 10411

2002-07-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10411 - Please apply this patch. It should be pretty straightforward. Upgrades HSSFSerializer to a newer version of POI. (various fixes, more formula support, etc) Thanks, Andy -

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >Another reason for a PetStore style cocoon app is that it is a simple >concept that people can wrap their heads around. One thing that we >can do is provide a cookie cutter style web store. All you have to do >is change the skin and you can open up shop. Cocoon can do this >far better than

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-16 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >-It's more fun than a screw-shop sample. > > ... nah... no comment. >fabien. > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >>3) Need for reports. Cocoon's integration with FOP is an >> excelent way to show off how reporting is integrated. >> We can show how to handle offline generated reports, and >> reports generated on demand. >> >> > >And something in rtf and excel. > > +1 >J. > > >---

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >>Now, let's not do another PetStore, maybe something >>more along the B to B model? >> >> > >We need something that does three basic things: > >1) Has complex application logic--i.e. one approval > fires off several actions. That application logic > should be encapsulated in applica

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On the subject of Reports, we should also demonstrate POI to autmatically >generate worksheets for accounting... > > Help me come up with a useful example and I'll contribute! I tried to come up with useful exmples that were: 1. Not too complicated that an inexperi

Re: [RT] Cocoon Integration Model

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
>Cocoon can definitely use its own blueprint. A Cocoon Application >Blueprint is an essential document that we need. There are two ways >of using Cocoon: integrated in with a traditional J2EE environment, >and standalone. The blueprint will define exactly what part of the >puzzle Cocoon suppo

Re: Release - now what?

2002-07-15 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
There will be a 2.0.4. The winds have not calmed... Morrison, John wrote: >Do we still need to check things into both head and release branch? If >so, are there any sort of "this goes in both, this doesn't" rules? > >Thanks, > >J. > >--LongSig > >It's so stupid of modern civilization to have gi

Re: Documentation and abbreviations

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > >> Steven Noels wrote: >> >>> >>> *All* instances? Hm. Wouldn't that be troublesome to read? Reminds >>> me of Wiki webs where people where triggerhappy with hyperreferences. >>> >

Re: Documentation and abbreviations

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Steven Noels wrote: > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > >> Here is my first entry :-) >> >> >> >> Cocoon Syndrome >>The tendancy whenever anything regarding >> documentation to focus on a tool for doing the documentation function &g

Re: Documentation and abbreviations

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Steven Noels wrote: > > *All* instances? Hm. Wouldn't that be troublesome to read? Reminds me > of Wiki webs where people where triggerhappy with hyperreferences. > > A thesaurus of some sorts, easily reachable from each page, might > perhaps already be enough. > > Here is my first entry :-)

Re: xerces 2.0.2 and release [VOTE]

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >> Or maybe in this case its no big deal. >> >> > >at least that's what I hoped... > >I don't have a strong opinion upgrading the 2.0.x tree either because we are >using HEAD but I thought when we ship a new stable release we should also >ship the latest stable releases we can find. So f

Re: xerces 2.0.2 and release [VOTE]

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Torsten Curdt wrote: >On Sunday 14 July 2002 15:45, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > >>>>[ ] hsqldb 1.61 -> 1.70RC6j >>>> >>>>+0, I want to wait for final release. >>>> >>>> >>>+0 >>> >&

Re: xerces 2.0.2 and release [VOTE]

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >>> >>> >>[ ] hsqldb 1.61 -> 1.70RC6j >> >>+0, I want to wait for final release. >> >> > >+0 > But as I said earlier, it would be fine/make sense to do this in the 2.1 branch I think. > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove SQLTransformer in 2.1

2002-07-14 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >Yepp! > >Andrew, give me a mail when you are ready to start... >...maybe we can work this out together... > Cool . Will do. It is currently on the queue in position #9. I will inform you if it moves to position #1 or if it moves down too many positions. Thanks, Andy >-- >Torsten > >---

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove SQLTransformer in 2.1

2002-07-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
ecause "ESQL is more hidden >> >> >in the > > >>documentation" but because it supported stored >>procedures long before EQSL. >> >>--------- >> Luca Morandini >>

Re: Reviewing TODO

2002-07-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > > > Close hsqldb server properly on shutdown > > >I will address it once HSQLDB 1.7.0 is out. I'm not sure if it is a good >idea to put 1.7.0RC6j. If there will be +1, I can patch it now. > > Because HSQLDB is mainly used for development (if you use it in production you should have yo

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove SQLTransformer in 2.1

2002-07-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: >>From: Luca Morandini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >>Andrew, >> >>do you mind terribly showing an example of an ESQL feeded by a dynamic >> >> >query > > >>produced by XSLT ? >> >> > >I don't mind. Moreover, something tells me I already answered similar >questio

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove SQLTransformer in 2.1

2002-07-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
>http://utenti.tripod.it/lmorandini/index.html >- > > > > >>-Original Message- >>From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 3:17 PM >>To: [EMAIL PRO

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove SQLTransformer in 2.1

2002-07-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Torsten Curdt wrote: >>P.S. >>I use SQLTransformer only, and I'm happy with it :) don't deprecate it :( >> >> > >I guess it would be cool for both ESQL and the SQLTransformer to share code as >well as syntax. But this will probably break backwards compatibility for >both. IMHO it could be n

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove SQLTransformer in 2.1

2002-07-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Per Kreipke wrote: >>>Personally I much prefer esql to SQLTransformer because I can control >>>the caching in an xsp. >>> >>>Anyway it isn't quite true that you can't do "transformation" in an xsp: >>>I have SQL which is dynamically generated from an xslt transformer which >>>I then feed into my

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove SQLTransformer in 2.1

2002-07-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Yuppo. To me a big problem is that the SQLTransformer performs poorly, users start off using it because ESQL is more hidden in the documentation for instance, and then "Gee cocoon is slow"... -Andy Stephen Ng wrote: >This is true, but the coding is trivial--it's just one line. > >This could

Documentation and abbreviations

2002-07-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Hi All, this is mostly a pedantic issue. But one thing that bugs me about much of the existing cocoon documentation is the style in which Cocoon-specific abbreviations are used. A good example: http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/xsp/index.html The most basic question is "What does XSP sta

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove SQLTransformer in 2.1

2002-07-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >>It is remarkably slower than ESQL. Okay if you feel this strongly about >>it then thats fine. Would you >>be against refactoring the two and moving the common constructs to >>common classes as Vadim suggested? >> >> >> >No, refactoring sounds like a good idea as long as the SQLTransf

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove SQLTransformer in 2.1

2002-07-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Stephen Ng wrote: >Personally I much prefer esql to SQLTransformer because I can control >the caching in an xsp. > >Anyway it isn't quite true that you can't do "transformation" in an xsp: >I have SQL which is dynamically generated from an xslt transformer which >I then feed into my esql. I use

Re: [DOCUMENTATION ISSUE] Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove SQLTransformer in2.1

2002-07-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
My bad...someone already did. Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > oh and can we remove the "its deprecated" notation from the > documentation. > > Time permitting, I'll attempt to resolve why it is so slow by comparison. > > -Andy > > Carsten Ziegeler wrote: >

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