Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-25 Thread Punky Tse
> > I picture a web-based frontend as well as a web-based backend. > > Cocoon powers the backend just like it powers the frondend: serving the > pages. > > Sure, you might not need the 'full' cocoon potentials on the back end > (but to provide previews or completely WYSIWYG inline-editing, you do

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Michael Hartle
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: >Michael Hartle wrote: > >>I tried it, but IIRC, I got caching problems, thus I wrote the >>UnzipGenerator. >> > >Care to share? :) > Definitely ;) My workload should soon return to more normal levels, giving me the opportunity to put it in a nice donation package with a

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Michael Hartle wrote: > > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > >Michael Hartle wrote: > > > >>Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > >> > >>>Hey, what about ripping out the NetBeans CVS Protocol library (which is > >>>legally compatible with us, unlike the JCVS library) and use that to > >>>write a generator? > >>>

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > On Thursday 24 January 2002 13:55, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > . . . > > (yes, it's piece of cacke to add WebDAV functionality to Cocoon > > directly, it's just a bunch of new HTTP actions and some XML content, > > not a big deal for our machinery) > > Wow - do yo

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Michael Hartle
Matt Sergeant wrote: >On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > >>Wow - do you mean WebDAV retrieval AND storage? >>I assume versioning would be much harder, though? >> >WebDAV doesn't do versioning. "There is no V, only the appearance of a V". > There are WebDAV-related extensions that t

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Michael Hartle
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >On Thursday 24 January 2002 13:55, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > >>. . . >>(yes, it's piece of cacke to add WebDAV functionality to Cocoon >>directly, it's just a bunch of new HTTP actions and some XML content, >>not a big deal for our machinery) >> I am highly interested

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Michael Hartle
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: >Michael Hartle wrote: > >>Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: >> >>>Hey, what about ripping out the NetBeans CVS Protocol library (which is >>>legally compatible with us, unlike the JCVS library) and use that to >>>write a generator? >>> >>Just a thought, why not rather turn it int

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thursday 24 January 2002 13:55, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > . . . > > (yes, it's piece of cacke to add WebDAV functionality to Cocoon > > directly, it's just a bunch of new HTTP actions and some XML content, > > not a big deal for our machiner

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Per-Olof Norén
- Original Message - From: "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow > Punky Tse wrote: > > > > > My dream

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thursday 24 January 2002 13:55, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > . . . > (yes, it's piece of cacke to add WebDAV functionality to Cocoon > directly, it's just a bunch of new HTTP actions and some XML content, > not a big deal for our machinery) Wow - do you mean WebDAV retrieval AND storage? I assum

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow (yahoogroups, CMS use-cases)

2002-01-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thursday 24 January 2002 14:10, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > . . > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contentmanagementgroup/). > > Ok, subscribed there. (god, yet another mail list :( Note that I just posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about the possibility of creating a "CMS requirements" project und

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow (yahoogroups, CMS use-cases)

2002-01-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Note that we're starting to have an interesting discussion about CMS > requirements over at yahoogroups > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contentmanagementgroup/). Ok, subscribed there. (god, yet another mail list :( Matt, maybe we could move there the discussion w

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow (yahoogroups, CMS use-cases)

2002-01-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
MORÁVEK Peter wrote: > > > (Cocoon and Forrest will suck all my free time now) > > What is the project Forrest about ? Can you post any links ? You'll have all the info when it starts (here on xml.apache.org). Will happen any day now. In short: it's the project to create the publishing infrast

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Punky Tse wrote: > > > My dream KMS architecture is something like this: > > > > [frontend] - [CMS] - [backend] > > | > > [store] > > > > where cocoon powers both 'frontend' and 'backend', CMS wraps around an > > native XML database and provides versionin

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > > I recently hacked > > an UnzipGenerator and enjoyed combining it with another protocol ;) > > Hm... How about ZipSerializer? ;) Careful: if you want to provide 'compressed' version of out output, then I think that servlet filtering is the way to go (tomcat comes with

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Michael Hartle wrote: > > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > >Hey, what about ripping out the NetBeans CVS Protocol library (which is > >legally compatible with us, unlike the JCVS library) and use that to > >write a generator? > > > Just a thought, why not rather turn it into a cvs protocol ? It woul

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Andrew Answer wrote: > Hello Stefano, > > you know anything about Perl-written CVS-integrated collaboration > system Twiki (http://twiki.org/) and his Java servlet-based analogue > WebTrans (http://sourceforge.net/projects/webtrans/, > http://www.devtools.org/servlet/

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-24 Thread Andrew Answer
rogramming something link between systems, but i have too little exp for fast work. Listen your comments... >*Original message* > From: Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Apache Cocoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tuesday, January 22, 2002, 7

RE: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow (yahoogroups, CMS use-cases)

2002-01-23 Thread MORÁVEK Peter
> (Cocoon and Forrest will suck all my free time now) What is the project Forrest about ? Can you post any links ? Thanks Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow (yahoogroups, CMS use-cases)

2002-01-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Note that we're starting to have an interesting discussion about CMS requirements over at yahoogroups (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contentmanagementgroup/). Hopefully we'll be able to come up with a set of use cases and requirements for a CMS. - Bertrand On Wednesday 23 January 2002 11:56

Re: Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-23 Thread Punky Tse
> My dream KMS architecture is something like this: > > [frontend] - [CMS] - [backend] > | > [store] > > where cocoon powers both 'frontend' and 'backend', CMS wraps around an > native XML database and provides versioning, access control, transparent > que

Promotions, Revisioning and Workflow

2002-01-22 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Ok, now that I know what Robert meant with 'promotions' I want to give you my impressions. 1) I've been talking about this 'CVS for XML' on the Xindice-dev mail list. Check the mail archives http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xindice-dev&r=1&w=2 2) I believe that a KMS *must* have the ability to