Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-11-06 Thread Steven Noels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven has moved it to "Links'. Thank you - I overlooked the already existing point at the links page. oops - you found out already ;-) -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center

Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-11-06 Thread Steven Noels
Reinhard Poetz wrote: Ivelin, I created a new main point in the left menu and called it "Cocoon compared". In order to keep the left Wiki menu as small as possible, I 'moved' the comparison page (which I like) underneath 'Links' Hope you don't mind... -- Steven Noels

RE: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-11-06 Thread reinhard_poetz
--Original Message- > > From: Ivelin Ivanov [mailto:ivelin@;apache.org] > > Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 5:23 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: XMLForms vs Struts > > > > > > Please do. > > Wiki is great, but I am not sure in which

RE: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-11-05 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Ivelin, I created a new main point in the left menu and called it "Cocoon compared". Reinhard > -Original Message- > From: Ivelin Ivanov [mailto:ivelin@;apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 5:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: XMLForms

Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-11-02 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Thank you. Konstantin and I were planning to release a comparison article for quite some time... and we are still planning ;) Ivelin - Original Message - From: "Jorge Bello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:27 AM Su

Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-11-02 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
r 31, 2002 2:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: XMLForms vs Struts > > > > I hope this will not make things even more confusing for you, > but here is my view: > > Struts is 3 parts: > 1) An URL map, matching URLs to Actions. > Everything you can do with st

Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-10-31 Thread Erik Bruchez
SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous wrote: > But i am also a bit confused. I'm following the discussons in this > mailing list for about a week now and this is already the second > mentioning of a product/component (whatever) that claims to be an on > top of cocoon development. But when i enter the pages ment

Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-10-31 Thread Jorge Bello
Ivelin wrote: > 3) Form handling. > Automated binding between HTML input fields and JavaBeans. > Cocoon's XMLForm does that and much more. It not only provides the binding, > but it does it in a browser independent way. Struts is only designed to > handle automatically HTML input. This is a very

RE: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-10-31 Thread Reinhard Poetz
D] > Subject: Re: XMLForms vs Struts > > > > I hope this will not make things even more confusing for you, > but here is my view: > > Struts is 3 parts: > 1) An URL map, matching URLs to Actions. > Everything you can do with struts-config.xml (Struts), you can do with

Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-10-31 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
ot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:48 AM Subject: Re: XMLForms vs Struts Hy; First let me tell you: I like the idea of merging cocoon and struts, because i see both technologies to be helpfull also in conjunction... Omar Tazi wrote: >

Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-10-31 Thread SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous
Hy; First let me tell you: I like the idea of merging cocoon and struts, because i see both technologies to be helpfull also in conjunction... Omar Tazi wrote: If you like the MVC aspect in Struts and like the flexibility provided by XML/XSLT, and don't like the limitations that come with JSPs,

Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-10-30 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Struts is certainly more mature. XMLForm has a lot of technological advantages, but it will not be released until Cocoon 2.1 stable is out, which is probably end of this year. Ivelin - Original Message - From: "Jorge Bello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesd

Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-10-30 Thread Omar Tazi
If you like the MVC aspect in Struts and like the flexibility provided by XML/XSLT, and don't like the limitations that come with JSPs, check out our Framework. It's called OXF (Open XML Framework). OXF is the result of our combined passion for Cocoon and Struts/J2EE and our involvement in huge

RE: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-10-30 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
> I'm sorry. It's a kind of help desk in our intranet where the users can: > 1) Request technical assistance (input) > 2) Query the status of their previous requests > 3) Query a DB where any user can look at common problems/solutions > > We have 500 total users. I think there could be 10/20 users

Re: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-10-30 Thread Jorge Bello
From: "Hunsberger, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Since XMLForms and Struts aren't directly comparable (they work at very > different levels and do very different things) we really need to know more > about your requirements: How many users? How many pages? How many forms? > If you can't give us h

RE: XMLForms vs Struts

2002-10-30 Thread Hunsberger, Peter
> I'm beginning to design a small system for my company and I > need some forms to input/output data. How small? Given that you are posting on Cocoon-users I assume you are considering using Cocoon though you don't specifically mention it. The general consensus seems to be that Cocoon isn't real