Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-17 Thread Walker, David
From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind [rochk...@jhu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:41 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update I doubt anyone is particularly wedded to the particularities

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-17 Thread Cary Gordon
@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind [rochk...@jhu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:41 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update I doubt anyone is particularly wedded to the particularities of the current theme. It probably doesn't matter

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-15 Thread Ross Singer
Although I sat in the room and nodded a lot in Athens when we picked and chose our conference options and signed the contract, I remember very few details of it anymore. I do remember when the UGA Conference Center representative left the room for a minute that we all thought that the prices we

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-15 Thread Cary Gordon
In my experience accross countless conferences, not remembering the food is usually a good thing. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: Although I sat in the room and nodded a lot in Athens when we picked and chose our conference options and signed the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I honestly don't think it's a disaster if registration fee approaches $200 either. (I realize you said $200 in _addition_ to the usual $125, I'm saying $200, heh). I think $200 is about the max that seems okay to me, but $200 does. That's still a good price for the conf, and still fairly

[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-15 Thread Susan Kane
Hi Anj, Nice to see your name again after meeting briefly at UW when you were coming and I was leaving for Boston! I doubt I'll be able to attend the conference this year but I've put the word out to the group of Ex Libris and Endeavor alumni that I manage on LinkedIn. Many people now work for

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
So maybe part of the problem is our venue voting system -- people vote for flashy locations, which are also expensive locations. The people voting (which is anyone who wants to) don't neccesarily consider all the ramifications (don't neccesarily have the experience/background to do so even if

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 6/15/2011 12:51 PM, Susan Kane wrote: great visibility with influential folks for a fraction of the cost of ALA! That's an interesting point too -- you pay for a booth at ALA ($), you DO reach a whole lot of people, but it's a lot more expensive than even our 'platinum' sponsorship,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-15 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: Heresy I know, but I wonder if we should change conf host/site selection from an open vote, to a conf selection committee that chooses.  Then the committee could say to themselves you know, even though the hosts say no

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-15 Thread Sean Hannan
Honestly, I'm the most concerned that there was only one proposal last year. Let's try to solve that problem. -Sean On 6/15/11 1:46 PM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: Heresy I know, but I wonder if we

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 6/15/2011 1:46 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: What is the problem we're trying to solve again? Do we think that the recent conferences have cost too much for the attendees? That this year's will cost too much? Are we worried about not finding places to host in the future? Are we worried

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-15 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Sean Hannan shan...@jhu.edu wrote: Honestly, I'm the most concerned that there was only one proposal last year. Let's try to solve that problem. +1 -Ross.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-15 Thread Anjanette Young
Hey Susan, Sweet! Language. Information. Social niceties. Here is the link to the 2012 sponsor page. http://code4lib.org/node/417 (Anyone know how to make that a nicer url on drupal?) There seems to be discussion on expanding options for sponsorship, but the options on the page are standard.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-15 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote: What is the problem we're trying to solve again?  Do we think that the recent conferences have cost too much for the attendees?  That this year's will cost too much?  Are we worried about not finding places to host in

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-15 Thread todd.d.robb...@gmail.com
Just a heads up: I and about 5 other MLIS/MSIM students at the UW iSchool are very interested in helping. Looking forward to the event! Tod Robbins MLIS '12 Information School University of Washington

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-15 Thread Cary Gordon
More tales from DrupalCon-land... Before we professionalized our events, we had a competitive system like C4L. That was fine as long as we had one solid proposal. In 2008, the only proposal for out European event was from Szeged, Hungary, near the borders with Romania and Serbia, and a long way

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-15 Thread Kyle Banerjee
One form of recognition that I think is almost a no brainer is a Sponsor page containing appropriately sized logos in sponsorship level order that has the sole purpose of recognizing the sponsors. A link to the sponsor page would be provided at the top of the conference page. This would be

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-15 Thread Cary Gordon
In a modern version of Drupal, you can set a path alias for any page. Unfortunately, C4L does not appear to be in a modern version of Drupal. It looks like 4.7 or earlier. I would be happy to volunteer to help manage it. Cary On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Anjanette Young

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-15 Thread Rob Casson
i've got admin rights on the code4lib drupal, so i went ahead and set the alias: http://code4lib.org/code4lib_2012_sponsorship cary: i'll look into getting you the correct privileges. you're highermath, correct? cheers, rob On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Cary Gordon

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-15 Thread Cary Gordon
That's me! It is probably a good time to move this to a newer version, perhaps Drupal 7, if for no other reason than security. The only downside is that the theme would either need to be recreated or change. No biggy, really. If someone wants to send me the code and a DB dump, I will do it in my

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-15 Thread Wick, Ryan
in on this, let me know. Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:31 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update That's me! It is probably a good time

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-15 Thread Cary Gordon
] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:31 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update That's me! It is probably a good time to move this to a newer version, perhaps Drupal 7, if for no other reason than security. The only

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update

2011-06-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
know. Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:31 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update That's me! It is probably a good time to move

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Anjanette Young
Excellent! I've been kicking around ideas with Kyle about sponsorship. I noticed in the past that OCLC and DLF had sponsored pre-conference activities. I'd appreciate more thoughts on walking the line between maximum exposure for sponsors and intrusiveness on conference attendees. --Anj On

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Frumkin, Jeremy
This might be better for the planning list, but I think we do need a broader discussion about our normal approach to working with sponsors. We typically have not had sponsored events, and this has been purposeful in intent (last year was an exception; I don't believe the topic was brought up

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Mark Jordan
Hi Anjanette, We're just wrapping up the sponsorship drive for Access 2011, and can say we learned: -you can't start soliciting sponsorships too soon; a lot of organizations allocate their conference and sponsorship money very early -before negotiating with sponsors, have a policy on whether

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
When sponsors have sponsored pre-conf activities, that 'sponsoring' of pre-confs was just that their staff were the presenters/facilitators/instructors at those pre-confs. So that is more exposure, but it was formally unconnected with their sponsorship donation -- in the sense that _anyone_

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 6/14/2011 12:14 PM, Mark Jordan wrote: -before negotiating with sponsors, have a policy on whether sponsorship gets them a slot on the program. IIRC there was a long discussion about this on the c4l planning list. That is the thing the community has really not liked the idea of in the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Kyle Banerjee
Or maybe the conf has gotten more expensive such that we need more money and thus more incentive to sponsor. (First priority -- try to keep the conf from getting more expensive so this doesn't happen) Costs can be kept down by securing sponsorships, reducing what is provided, and/or

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 6/14/2011 4:00 PM, Kyle Banerjee wrote: Or maybe the conf has gotten more expensive such that we need more money and thus more incentive to sponsor. (First priority -- try to keep the conf from getting more expensive so this doesn't happen) Costs can be kept down by securing

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: So what I'm curious about, is how did the first 3-4 Code4Lib's manage to happen in a way that satisfied us, had low conf registration, and had lower sponsorship contributions and lower sponsor privileges than it is

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Edward M. Corrado
While I agree with the idea of keeping costs down so as to not rely on sponsors as much I am not sure how realistic this is without looking at the numbers. Comparing the first one or two conferences with lower attendance at university facilities to what we had the last few years is probably not

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Kyle Banerjee
So what I'm curious about, is how did the first 3-4 Code4Lib's manage to happen in a way that satisfied us, had low conf registration, and had lower sponsorship contributions and lower sponsor privileges than it is suggested is now required? I can't speak with authority as I wasn't involved

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 6/14/2011 5:34 PM, Kyle Banerjee wrote: C4l was much smaller then. The smaller the event, the less complicated things are and the more options you have. There are quite a few regional c4l events. We held one for a capacity crowd in Portland yesterday. It was about the same size as the

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Cary Gordon
I was the events manager for the Drupal Association, for the past few years, and our conferences have gone from mid 30s to over 3,000 in the US and 1,200 in Europe. We are expecting over 1,500 for our London conference in August. Having outgrown the hotel rooms and free venues that we had through

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-14 Thread Frumkin, Jeremy
Just some clarification on the 1st and 3rd c4l conferences: The first code4lib conference had about 85 attendees, and was situated on the Oregon State campus. We still paid for the conference space, food, conference support, shuttle buses to / from downtown, and signed a contract with a nearby

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-11 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
Thanks for setting this up, Anj! Once the committees have some more names attached to them, you may want to identify a lead for each. I'm excited about #c4l12 already. -Mike On Jun 7, 2011 12:16 PM, Anjanette Young youn...@u.washington.edu wrote:

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-10 Thread Andrew Nagy
Hi Anj - I just wanted to let you know that Serials Solutions is working out a plan to better support the conference. We'd possibly like to sponsor an evening event, we will have more information for you later in the summer. Cheers Andrew On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Anjanette Young

[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-07 Thread Anjanette Young
Code4Lib Seattle 2012 update. Thanks to Elizabeth Duell of Orbis Cascade Alliance and Cary Gordon of chillco.com, we finally have a venue with adequate (hopefully) bandwidth and wireless access points, a reasonable food beverage minimum, and chairs! The Renaissance Hotel (515 Madison St.,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-07 Thread todd.d.robb...@gmail.com
Anj, I justed finished my first year as a MLIS student at the iSchool (UW). I'd love to help coordinate the meetup. Contact me personally to sort out a meeting. Thanks, Tod Robbins

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-07 Thread Jay Luker
Hi Anjanette, Does this mean you've settled on dates? --jay On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Anjanette Young youn...@u.washington.edu wrote: Code4Lib Seattle 2012 update.  Thanks to Elizabeth Duell of Orbis Cascade Alliance and Cary Gordon of chillco.com, we finally have a venue with adequate

Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4Lib 2012 Seattle Update.

2011-06-07 Thread Anjanette Young
Thanks for the reminder. Dates: Feb 6 - 9, 2012. --Anjanette On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Jay Luker lb...@reallywow.com wrote: Hi Anjanette, Does this mean you've settled on dates? --jay On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Anjanette Young youn...@u.washington.edu wrote: Code4Lib