Jumping in a little late...
David Lowe brought to my attention the recent discussion of ORCID and ISNI and
VIAF on the CODE4LIB listserv. I wanted to toss into the discussion a few more
pieces of information about ORCID.
ORCID is user-driven, and as posters have noted individuals may register
Janifer has been following the thread and has asked me to post the
following on her behalf:
~Richard.
Here is a consolidated response:
Below is an extract from a paper that is in publication that illustrates
the model that is used in ISNI. Many of the contributors to VIAF are also
adopting
On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Richard Wallis richard.wal...@dataliberate.com
wrote:
ISNI has a suite of programs that detects pseudonyms coded as name variants
and changes them into related name and generates related identity records.
It is a while since it was run and will be re-run in the
Hi Eric,
What distinguishes one from another?
The communities behind them, the [often overlapping] communities they
are intended to serve, and the technical implementation.
As a librarian, why should I care?
I would, as a non-librarian, suggest that once you are happy with
the ‘authority’ of
will be there just now.
Renate
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:56:28 +0100
Richard Wallis richard.wal...@dataliberate.com wrote:
Hi Eric,
What distinguishes one from another?
The communities behind them, the [often overlapping] communities they
are intended to serve, and the technical
I concur with Richard's analysis[1]. Each identifier type serves a
different community. In particular, ORCID identifiers will tend to
identify faculty and researchers whose sole output is journal articles
-- thus who would not normally appear in a library authority file. The
ISNI is sometimes
On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Richard Wallis richard.wal...@dataliberate.com
wrote:
authority control|simple identifier |Linked Data capability
+-+--+--+
VIAF |X|X | X |
In what ways does ISNI support linked data?
See: http://www.isni.org/how-isni-works#HowItWorks_LinkedData
~Richard
On 20 June 2014 18:57, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote:
On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Richard Wallis
richard.wal...@dataliberate.com wrote:
authority
On 6/20/14, 11:38 AM, Richard Wallis wrote:
In what ways does ISNI support linked data?
See: http://www.isni.org/how-isni-works#HowItWorks_LinkedData
accessible by a persistent URI in the form
isni-url.oclc.nl/isni/000134596520 (for example) and soon also in
the form
On Jun 20, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:
On 6/20/14, 11:38 AM, Richard Wallis wrote:
In what ways does ISNI support linked data?
See: http://www.isni.org/how-isni-works#HowItWorks_LinkedData
accessible by a persistent URI in the form
isni-url.oclc.nl/isni/000134596520 (for
On 6/20/14, 1:49 PM, Joe Hourcle wrote:
Now, it's possible that this whole we don't need to bother with
http://; thing has spilled into the CMS building community, and
they're actively stripping it out.
I actually had the editors of an ALA publication remove http://;
whenever it preceded
An aside but interesting to see how some of this identity stuff seems to be
playing out in the wild now. Google for Catherine Sefton:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=catherine+sefton
The Knowledge Graph displays information about Martin Waddell. Catherine Sefton
is a pseudonym of Martin
More from Janifer….
Thanks Richard for forwarding. I don’t know how long my answer is allowed
to be. Here are some extracts from a recent article (in publication):
Meryl Streep has only one public identity that she uses for her creative
works. VIAF includes Streep, Meryl (Mary Louise) as
In wikipedia, the principal representation for alternative names for
entities are 'redirects'. The redirect from Catherine Sefton to
Martin Waddell can be found at
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Catherine_Seftonredirect=no
(and yes, being a wiki it's editable).
That redirect is
Hi all,
Seeing this thread I checked with the ISNI team and got the following
answer from Janifer Gatenby who asked me to post it on her behalf:
SNI identifies “public identities”.The scope as stated in the standard
is
“This International Standard specifies the International Standard name
Hi Richard,
Thanks for posting, and thanks to Janifer Gatenby for supplying the answer.
So my assumption that if someone uses/has a pseudonym, it always refers to
a different public identity was wrong? Who decides what should become just
a new name for an existing identity, and what a different
Two strings denote the same public identity if both names are inten*t*ionally
a linguistic or orthographic variant of each other and the public identity
identifiers the same party.
Intentionality is important because of cases like Ian Banks and Ian M
Banks, which are different public identities
Thank you for (and Janifer Gatenby) for this answer.
My reading of this is that people who change their name when they marry
don't get a new ISNI, but those who change it when they transition
gender do, because that's a new identify.
That's useful to know.
cheers
stuart
On 06/19/2014 12:11
My reading of that suggests that
http://isni-url.oclc.nl/isni/000122816316 shouldn't have both Bell,
Currer and Brontë, Charlotte, which it clearly does...
Is this is a case of one of our sources of truth doesn't distinguish
betweens identities and entities and we're allowing it to
Hi Stuart,
I don't have a copy of the official standard, but from the documents on
the ISNI website I remember that there are name variations and 'public
identities' (as the lemma on Wikipedia also uses). I'm not sure where the
borderline is or who decides when different names are different
Could someone with access to the official text of ISO 27729:2012 tell me
whether an ISNI is a name identifier or an entity identifier? That is,
if someone changes their name (adopts a pseudonym, changes their name by
to marriage, transitions gender, etc), should they be assigned a new
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