Re: [CODE4LIB] retrospectively registering for pre-conference?
Hi, Me. I'll pass your email along to the registration folks and they'll be able to handle the preconf registration for you. Kevin On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Joyce Chapman wrote: > Hi all, > > I registered for the upcoming Code4Lib conference but did not register for a > pre-conference event. I would now like to register for the pre-conference as > well, but I can't figure out how to register for just the pre-conference and > not the whole conference again. Who can I get in touch with about this? > > Thank you, > Joyce > > -- > Joyce Chapman > NCSU Libraries Fellow > Metadata and Cataloging/ > Digital Library Initiatives > joyce_chap...@ncsu.edu >
Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest
Ross, you are entirely too kind. ;-) Roy On 1/4/10 1/4/10 7:34 PM, "Ross Singer" wrote: > I note they also have a "boxer short" option -- so, I'll up the ante > to an entire line of "Roy Tennant Undergarments" > > -Ross. > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Ross Singer wrote: >> I've asked it before, I'll ask it again. >> >> Can we add the Roy Thong(tm)? >> >> -Ross. >> >> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Smith,Devon wrote: >>> There is a cafepress store front for code4lib. There's nothing in it at the >>> moment. http://www.cafepress.com/code4lib >>> >>> Last year I suggested that all tshirts be put in the store. Then I forgot >>> all about it. Oops, my bad. >>> >>> Tentative guidelines: >>> - The contest and the store are separate. You can enter the contest and not >>> have your shirt in the store. >>> - Shirts will be sold at cost for now. >>> - To get your design in the store, send it to code4libcafepr...@decasm.com. >>> By sending it to this address, you agree to the following terms: Designs >>> submitted to the code4lib cafepress store will be sold for amounts to be >>> determined by the code4libcon mailing list. Any revenue generated beyond >>> costs will be spent according to voting on that list. You retain copyright, >>> but grant permission to the code4lib community to sell any product available >>> on cafepress with the submitted design. These guidelines are tentative and >>> subject to change. You agree to be cool about that. >>> >>> >>> For best results, tshirts for the cafepress store should be designed with >>> this template: http://www.cafepress.com/content/si/temp_10x10_apparel.zip >>> >>> >>> /dev >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of >>> Rosalyn Metz >>> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:23 AM >>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest >>> >>> correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't someone already set up a store. i >>> distinctly remember there being a roy tennant thong (as do others if >>> you google it). it appears to have gone away though... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: I like that idea (and the idea of it as something that exists apart from the conference budget, but perhaps funds scholarships in the following year). I think last year someone suggested putting all the t-shirt submissions in there (not just the winning one - It lets folks buy the conference shirt, but also others that might appeal to them). I think anyone in the community could register http://shop.cafepress.com/lisforge and manage it as a means to fund scholarships (or contribute in some other way - depending on the amount raised). Kevin On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: > We've talked before about setting up a code4lib CafePress store. > Maybe we've already done it? It's an idea, at least. > > -Mike > > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 16:40, Christina Salazar > wrote: >> Y'know... I think y'all should order extras and sell and ship them to >> those of us who cannot attend. I love my past conference t-shirts and >> they get some interesting reactions when I wear 'em. I'd buy any one >> of these designs. >> >> Seems like you might be able to make a bit of dough for scholarships >> and whatnot... >> >> Christina Salazar >> >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Patrick Hochstenbach >> wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> >>> Here is the Inkscape entry designed by my lovely wife :) >>> >>> Greetings from Belgium, >>> P@ >>> >>> Skype: patrick.hochstenbach >>> Patrick Hochstenbach Software Architect >>> University Library +32(0)92647980 >>> Ghent University * Rozier 9 * 9000 * Gent >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >>> >> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest
I note they also have a "boxer short" option -- so, I'll up the ante to an entire line of "Roy Tennant Undergarments" -Ross. On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Ross Singer wrote: > I've asked it before, I'll ask it again. > > Can we add the Roy Thong(tm)? > > -Ross. > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Smith,Devon wrote: >> There is a cafepress store front for code4lib. There's nothing in it at the >> moment. http://www.cafepress.com/code4lib >> >> Last year I suggested that all tshirts be put in the store. Then I forgot >> all about it. Oops, my bad. >> >> Tentative guidelines: >> - The contest and the store are separate. You can enter the contest and not >> have your shirt in the store. >> - Shirts will be sold at cost for now. >> - To get your design in the store, send it to code4libcafepr...@decasm.com. >> By sending it to this address, you agree to the following terms: Designs >> submitted to the code4lib cafepress store will be sold for amounts to be >> determined by the code4libcon mailing list. Any revenue generated beyond >> costs will be spent according to voting on that list. You retain copyright, >> but grant permission to the code4lib community to sell any product available >> on cafepress with the submitted design. These guidelines are tentative and >> subject to change. You agree to be cool about that. >> >> >> For best results, tshirts for the cafepress store should be designed with >> this template: http://www.cafepress.com/content/si/temp_10x10_apparel.zip >> >> >> /dev >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of >> Rosalyn Metz >> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:23 AM >> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest >> >> correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't someone already set up a store. i >> distinctly remember there being a roy tennant thong (as do others if >> you google it). it appears to have gone away though... >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: >>> I like that idea (and the idea of it as something that exists apart >>> from the conference budget, but perhaps funds scholarships in the >>> following year). I think last year someone suggested putting all the >>> t-shirt submissions in there (not just the winning one - It lets folks >>> buy the conference shirt, but also others that might appeal to them). >>> I think anyone in the community could register >>> http://shop.cafepress.com/lisforge and manage it as a means to fund >>> scholarships (or contribute in some other way - depending on the >>> amount raised). >>> >>> Kevin >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Michael J. Giarlo >>> wrote: We've talked before about setting up a code4lib CafePress store. Maybe we've already done it? It's an idea, at least. -Mike On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 16:40, Christina Salazar wrote: > Y'know... I think y'all should order extras and sell and ship them to > those of us who cannot attend. I love my past conference t-shirts and > they get some interesting reactions when I wear 'em. I'd buy any one > of these designs. > > Seems like you might be able to make a bit of dough for scholarships > and whatnot... > > Christina Salazar > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Patrick Hochstenbach > wrote: >> Hello All, >> >> Here is the Inkscape entry designed by my lovely wife :) >> >> Greetings from Belgium, >> P@ >> >> Skype: patrick.hochstenbach >> Patrick Hochstenbach Software Architect >> University Library +32(0)92647980 >> Ghent University * Rozier 9 * 9000 * Gent >> >> >> >> >> > >>> >> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest
I've asked it before, I'll ask it again. Can we add the Roy Thong(tm)? -Ross. On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Smith,Devon wrote: > There is a cafepress store front for code4lib. There's nothing in it at the > moment. http://www.cafepress.com/code4lib > > Last year I suggested that all tshirts be put in the store. Then I forgot all > about it. Oops, my bad. > > Tentative guidelines: > - The contest and the store are separate. You can enter the contest and not > have your shirt in the store. > - Shirts will be sold at cost for now. > - To get your design in the store, send it to code4libcafepr...@decasm.com. > By sending it to this address, you agree to the following terms: Designs > submitted to the code4lib cafepress store will be sold for amounts to be > determined by the code4libcon mailing list. Any revenue generated beyond > costs will be spent according to voting on that list. You retain copyright, > but grant permission to the code4lib community to sell any product available > on cafepress with the submitted design. These guidelines are tentative and > subject to change. You agree to be cool about that. > > > For best results, tshirts for the cafepress store should be designed with > this template: http://www.cafepress.com/content/si/temp_10x10_apparel.zip > > > /dev > > > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of > Rosalyn Metz > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:23 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest > > correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't someone already set up a store. i > distinctly remember there being a roy tennant thong (as do others if > you google it). it appears to have gone away though... > > > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: >> I like that idea (and the idea of it as something that exists apart >> from the conference budget, but perhaps funds scholarships in the >> following year). I think last year someone suggested putting all the >> t-shirt submissions in there (not just the winning one - It lets folks >> buy the conference shirt, but also others that might appeal to them). >> I think anyone in the community could register >> http://shop.cafepress.com/lisforge and manage it as a means to fund >> scholarships (or contribute in some other way - depending on the >> amount raised). >> >> Kevin >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Michael J. Giarlo >> wrote: >>> We've talked before about setting up a code4lib CafePress store. >>> Maybe we've already done it? It's an idea, at least. >>> >>> -Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 16:40, Christina Salazar >>> wrote: Y'know... I think y'all should order extras and sell and ship them to those of us who cannot attend. I love my past conference t-shirts and they get some interesting reactions when I wear 'em. I'd buy any one of these designs. Seems like you might be able to make a bit of dough for scholarships and whatnot... Christina Salazar On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Patrick Hochstenbach wrote: > Hello All, > > Here is the Inkscape entry designed by my lovely wife :) > > Greetings from Belgium, > P@ > > Skype: patrick.hochstenbach > Patrick Hochstenbach Software Architect > University Library +32(0)92647980 > Ghent University * Rozier 9 * 9000 * Gent > > > > > >>> >> >
[CODE4LIB] Female roomate wanted for Code4libcon
Hi - I've booked a room at the marriott. Would like to share with female room-mate to cut costs. Must mention that I snore, alas. Cindy Harper, Systems Librarian Colgate University Libraries char...@colgate.edu 315-228-7363
[CODE4LIB] retrospectively registering for pre-conference?
Hi all, I registered for the upcoming Code4Lib conference but did not register for a pre-conference event. I would now like to register for the pre-conference as well, but I can't figure out how to register for just the pre-conference and not the whole conference again. Who can I get in touch with about this? Thank you, Joyce -- Joyce Chapman NCSU Libraries Fellow Metadata and Cataloging/ Digital Library Initiatives joyce_chap...@ncsu.edu
Re: [CODE4LIB] ipsCA Certs
Yes, you are right. I'm afraid we are using ipsCA certs, and using the 'updated' certs (that is, those that have not expired) are still not trusted by Firefox. Or Opera or Safari. They are trusted by IE7. Haven't tested IE6. Godmar Back wrote: Hi, in my role as unpaid tech advisor for our local library, may I ask a question about the ipsCA issue? Is my understanding correct that ipsCA currently reissues certificates [1] signed with a root CA that is not yet in Mozilla products, due to IPS's delaying the necessary vetting process [2]? In other words, Mozilla users would see security warnings even if a reissued certificate was used? The reason I'm confused is that I, like David, saw a number of still valid certificates from "IPS Internet publishing Services s.l." already shipping with Firefox, alongside the now-expired certificate. But I suppose those certificates are for something else and the reissued certificates won't be signed using them? Thanks, - Godmar [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529286 [1] http://certs.ipsca.com/Support/hierarchy-ipsca.asp On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM, John Wynstra wrote: Out of curiosity, did anyone else using ipsCA certs receive notification that due to the coming expiration of their root CA (December 29,2009), they would need a reissued cert under a new root CA? I am uncertain as to how this new Root CA will become a part of the browsers trusted roots without some type of user action including a software upgrade, but the following library website instructions lead me to believe that this is not going to be smooth. http://bit.ly/53Npel We are just about to go live with EZProxy in January with an ipsCA cert issued a few months ago, and I am not about to do that if I have serious browser support issue. -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> John Wynstra Library Information Systems Specialist Rod Library University of Northern Iowa Cedar Falls, IA 50613 wyns...@uni.edu (319)273-6399 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Re: [CODE4LIB] ipsCA Certs
I think you are correct. I and another library went and got a re-issued cert from ipsCA, stuck it in ezproxy, and found that Firefox as well as opera gave a security warning. (Actually, Opera never did work with the old ipsCA cert either.) There is also correspondence between Mozilla and ipsCA, culminating in a note that Mozilla won't be activating the ipsCA cert, since they are past the deadline. I was interested from the language that there seemed to be a way of activating certs rather than just putting them in there; perhaps you are seeing "inactive" certs from ipsCA? -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Godmar Back Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:52 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] ipsCA Certs Hi, in my role as unpaid tech advisor for our local library, may I ask a question about the ipsCA issue? Is my understanding correct that ipsCA currently reissues certificates [1] signed with a root CA that is not yet in Mozilla products, due to IPS's delaying the necessary vetting process [2]? In other words, Mozilla users would see security warnings even if a reissued certificate was used? The reason I'm confused is that I, like David, saw a number of still valid certificates from "IPS Internet publishing Services s.l." already shipping with Firefox, alongside the now-expired certificate. But I suppose those certificates are for something else and the reissued certificates won't be signed using them? Thanks, - Godmar [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529286 [1] http://certs.ipsca.com/Support/hierarchy-ipsca.asp On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM, John Wynstra wrote: > Out of curiosity, did anyone else using ipsCA certs receive notification > that due to the coming expiration of their root CA (December 29,2009), they > would need a reissued cert under a new root CA? > > I am uncertain as to how this new Root CA will become a part of the > browsers trusted roots without some type of user action including a software > upgrade, but the following library website instructions lead me to believe > that this is not going to be smooth. http://bit.ly/53Npel > > We are just about to go live with EZProxy in January with an ipsCA cert > issued a few months ago, and I am not about to do that if I have serious > browser support issue. > > > -- > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > John Wynstra > Library Information Systems Specialist > Rod Library > University of Northern Iowa > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > wyns...@uni.edu > (319)273-6399 > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] ipsCA Certs
Hi, in my role as unpaid tech advisor for our local library, may I ask a question about the ipsCA issue? Is my understanding correct that ipsCA currently reissues certificates [1] signed with a root CA that is not yet in Mozilla products, due to IPS's delaying the necessary vetting process [2]? In other words, Mozilla users would see security warnings even if a reissued certificate was used? The reason I'm confused is that I, like David, saw a number of still valid certificates from "IPS Internet publishing Services s.l." already shipping with Firefox, alongside the now-expired certificate. But I suppose those certificates are for something else and the reissued certificates won't be signed using them? Thanks, - Godmar [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529286 [1] http://certs.ipsca.com/Support/hierarchy-ipsca.asp On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM, John Wynstra wrote: > Out of curiosity, did anyone else using ipsCA certs receive notification > that due to the coming expiration of their root CA (December 29,2009), they > would need a reissued cert under a new root CA? > > I am uncertain as to how this new Root CA will become a part of the > browsers trusted roots without some type of user action including a software > upgrade, but the following library website instructions lead me to believe > that this is not going to be smooth. http://bit.ly/53Npel > > We are just about to go live with EZProxy in January with an ipsCA cert > issued a few months ago, and I am not about to do that if I have serious > browser support issue. > > > -- > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > John Wynstra > Library Information Systems Specialist > Rod Library > University of Northern Iowa > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > wyns...@uni.edu > (319)273-6399 > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] yaoss4ll [cms]
Eric Lease Morgan wrote: On Jan 4, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Karen Coombs wrote: What's great about some of these systems is that there are modules written to do exactly what you are talking about... Hope this helps. Yes, this makes sense. Thank you for elaborating. I think the next time we do the website redesign "thang" we may very well go the CMS route. It's also worth noting that there is a somewhat active Drupal4Lib group that includes many of the same subscribers as code4lib, so there is quite a bit of expertise with Drupal within the code4lib community. -- John Fereira Cornell University Twitter: @john_fereira Google Wave: fere...@googlewave.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] resource sharing/ill oss
On Jan 4, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Ian Ibbotson wrote: > Well not sure if it's what you're looking for, but we maintain a GPL > toolkit called OpenRequest that implements ISO 10161/10160 (And has a > rudimentary database and UI for testing) Added to my internal list: http://developer.k-int.com/projects.php?page=openrequest Thank you, and say hello to Neil for me. -- Eric Morgan
Re: [CODE4LIB] yaoss4ll [cms]
On Jan 4, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Karen Coombs wrote: > What's great about some of these systems is that there are modules written > to do exactly what you are talking about... Hope this helps. Yes, this makes sense. Thank you for elaborating. I think the next time we do the website redesign "thang" we may very well go the CMS route. -- Eric Lease Morgan
Re: [CODE4LIB] resource sharing/ill oss
Has anybody followed up on Relais announcement that their products will be open sourced: http://www.relais-intl.com/relais/home/Relais%20Products%20Go%20Open%20Source%20-%20Press%20Release.pdf ? OpenILL (which was written by the University of Winnipeg in Cold Fusion) also seems to have disappeared. -Ross. On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: > Do you know of any resource sharing/ILL open source software? > > Prospero seems like a likely candidate, but it also seems to have gone > missing. > > [1] http://bones.med.ohio-state.edu/prospero/ > > -- > Eric Lease Morgan >
Re: [CODE4LIB] resource sharing/ill oss
Well not sure if it's what you're looking for, but we maintain a GPL toolkit called OpenRequest that implements ISO 10161/10160 (And has a rudimentary database and UI for testing). It's been used by a few vendors to implement their ILL Protocol stack. Stephanie Taylor and I have been discussing starting up an Interleding 2.0 group to see what next gen ILL systems should look like and see if we can build something cool and funky on top of OpenRequest. Ian. 2010/1/4 Eric Lease Morgan : > Do you know of any resource sharing/ILL open source software? > > Prospero seems like a likely candidate, but it also seems to have gone > missing. > > [1] http://bones.med.ohio-state.edu/prospero/ > > -- > Eric Lease Morgan >
Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest
There is a cafepress store front for code4lib. There's nothing in it at the moment. http://www.cafepress.com/code4lib Last year I suggested that all tshirts be put in the store. Then I forgot all about it. Oops, my bad. Tentative guidelines: - The contest and the store are separate. You can enter the contest and not have your shirt in the store. - Shirts will be sold at cost for now. - To get your design in the store, send it to code4libcafepr...@decasm.com. By sending it to this address, you agree to the following terms: Designs submitted to the code4lib cafepress store will be sold for amounts to be determined by the code4libcon mailing list. Any revenue generated beyond costs will be spent according to voting on that list. You retain copyright, but grant permission to the code4lib community to sell any product available on cafepress with the submitted design. These guidelines are tentative and subject to change. You agree to be cool about that. For best results, tshirts for the cafepress store should be designed with this template: http://www.cafepress.com/content/si/temp_10x10_apparel.zip /dev -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Rosalyn Metz Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:23 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't someone already set up a store. i distinctly remember there being a roy tennant thong (as do others if you google it). it appears to have gone away though... On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: > I like that idea (and the idea of it as something that exists apart > from the conference budget, but perhaps funds scholarships in the > following year). I think last year someone suggested putting all the > t-shirt submissions in there (not just the winning one - It lets folks > buy the conference shirt, but also others that might appeal to them). > I think anyone in the community could register > http://shop.cafepress.com/lisforge and manage it as a means to fund > scholarships (or contribute in some other way - depending on the > amount raised). > > Kevin > > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Michael J. Giarlo > wrote: >> We've talked before about setting up a code4lib CafePress store. >> Maybe we've already done it? It's an idea, at least. >> >> -Mike >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 16:40, Christina Salazar >> wrote: >>> Y'know... I think y'all should order extras and sell and ship them to >>> those of us who cannot attend. I love my past conference t-shirts and >>> they get some interesting reactions when I wear 'em. I'd buy any one >>> of these designs. >>> >>> Seems like you might be able to make a bit of dough for scholarships >>> and whatnot... >>> >>> Christina Salazar >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Patrick Hochstenbach >>> wrote: Hello All, Here is the Inkscape entry designed by my lovely wife :) Greetings from Belgium, P@ Skype: patrick.hochstenbach Patrick Hochstenbach Software Architect University Library +32(0)92647980 Ghent University * Rozier 9 * 9000 * Gent >>> >> >
[CODE4LIB] resource sharing/ill oss
Do you know of any resource sharing/ILL open source software? Prospero seems like a likely candidate, but it also seems to have gone missing. [1] http://bones.med.ohio-state.edu/prospero/ -- Eric Lease Morgan
Re: [CODE4LIB] yaoss4ll [cms]
Eric, What's great about some of these systems is that there are modules written to do exactly what you are talking about. For example there is a Drupal module that will allow to export your Wordpress site and import it into Drupal. Most of the PHP/MySQL CMSs I've played with have an underlying framework that makes this much easier than messing with the database tables natively. Also, many of these systems are looking to expose their data in structured ways which can be accessed by other systems. So web services are becoming a big part of these systems. I believe that Silverstripe has web services natively and there are several web sevice modules for Drupal. In terms of vendor lock in, I just don't see it that way. Because Wordpress and Drupal are open source, support can be provided from a variety of vendors. Many Drupal "vendors" contribute modules and other code. Because of this variety you aren't reliant on a single provider to chose to continue to support a particular product. If an open source CMS does go away then many, many community members will be doing migration and it is VERY likily that migraiton scripts/modules will get written and shared with the community. Certainly I saw this when huge numbers of blogs migrated from Movable Type to Wordpress. Hope this helps. Karen On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Eric Lease Morgan < eric_mor...@infomotions.com> wrote: > On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Alejandro Garza Gonzalez wrote: > > > I second John Fereira's comment re: putting this information into a CMS > =) For instance it'd be awesome to browse by language... > > > For the past week or so I have been trying to evaluate content management > systems (CMS). Boy, there are bunches of them out there! Lot's of choice. > The market is so much more mature in this area compared to librayr-specific > open source applications. (Ironically, MyLibrary is/was sort of like a CMS > in that it was intended to create certain types of Web pages based on the > content of a database. No HTML knowledge required.) > > But the real question I want to ask is, "To what degree do existing CMS > applications force a sort of vendor lock-in?" The vast majority of the > applications I've looked, briefly, are PHP/MySQL combinations. This means > some relational database is created, complete with application-specific > tables, records, and fields. The PHP code then does I/O against the database > to create and maintain website content. Cool. > > Suppose I invested my time and energy into one of these systems? For a long > time it does what it is expected to do. Suppose then it breaks, becomes no > longer supported, or a newer/cooler application comes along. How am I > expected to get my content out of the first CMS and into second application? > At least in Library Land we have MARC records (ick) to allow for some sort > of migration path. I'm a bit hesitant when it comes to CMS application. > Should I rely on the community at this point to come up with a solution? > > Yea, I can read the underlying database, create a cross-walk, do some > magic, port from one system to anther, and hope to retain the better part of > my functionality, but some things always get lost in translation. > > To what degree should website administrators be concerned with such things? > Back-end content creators might simply see the easy-of-use of creating > content. Geeky people, like me, might see a severe problem for the future. > > Y'alls input would be greatly appreciated. > > -- > Eric Lease Morgan >
Re: [CODE4LIB] yaoss4ll [cms]
On Jan 4, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Alejandro Garza Gonzalez wrote: > I second John Fereira's comment re: putting this information into a CMS =) > For instance it'd be awesome to browse by language... For the past week or so I have been trying to evaluate content management systems (CMS). Boy, there are bunches of them out there! Lot's of choice. The market is so much more mature in this area compared to librayr-specific open source applications. (Ironically, MyLibrary is/was sort of like a CMS in that it was intended to create certain types of Web pages based on the content of a database. No HTML knowledge required.) But the real question I want to ask is, "To what degree do existing CMS applications force a sort of vendor lock-in?" The vast majority of the applications I've looked, briefly, are PHP/MySQL combinations. This means some relational database is created, complete with application-specific tables, records, and fields. The PHP code then does I/O against the database to create and maintain website content. Cool. Suppose I invested my time and energy into one of these systems? For a long time it does what it is expected to do. Suppose then it breaks, becomes no longer supported, or a newer/cooler application comes along. How am I expected to get my content out of the first CMS and into second application? At least in Library Land we have MARC records (ick) to allow for some sort of migration path. I'm a bit hesitant when it comes to CMS application. Should I rely on the community at this point to come up with a solution? Yea, I can read the underlying database, create a cross-walk, do some magic, port from one system to anther, and hope to retain the better part of my functionality, but some things always get lost in translation. To what degree should website administrators be concerned with such things? Back-end content creators might simply see the easy-of-use of creating content. Geeky people, like me, might see a severe problem for the future. Y'alls input would be greatly appreciated. -- Eric Lease Morgan
Re: [CODE4LIB] yaoss4ll
I second John Fereira's comment re: putting this information into a CMS =) For instance it'd be awesome to browse by language... And, Drupal actually has a series of library-related modules out there; you already mention the MARC module in http://infomotions.com/tmp/oss/discovery.html ... here are two lists for more library-related modules: http://drupalib.interoperating.info/library_modules http://groups.drupal.org/node/14062 _alejandro John Fereira said the following on 22/12/2009 12:25 p.m.: Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Putting it on a wiki anyone can edit makes it, perhaps, somewhat more likely that it ends up maintained longer, making it easier for other people to get involved in maintaining it without technological barriers or proprietary feelings getting in the way. I was thinking of something more along the lines of putting it into a CMS (i.e. Drupal) so that voting/ranking/tagging tools could be used to allow the community to rate the viability and discovery of each item. I may actually need to do something like this but for a different domain on a project that I'll be working on over the next year. -- _ ___ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *Ing. Alejandro Garza González* Coordinación de proyectos y desarrollo de sistemas Centro in...@te, Centro para la Innovación en Tecnología y Educación Tecnológico de Monterrey Tel. +52 [81] 8358.2000, Ext. 6751 Enlace intercampus: 80.689.6751, 80.788.6106 http://www.itesm.mx/innovate/ El contenido de este mensaje de datos no se considera oferta, propuesta o acuerdo, sino hasta que sea confirmado en documento por escrito que contenga la firma autógrafa del apoderado legal del ITESM. El contenido de este mensaje de datos es confidencial y se entiende dirigido y para uso exclusivo del destinatario, por lo que no podrá distribuirse y/o difundirse por ningún medio sin la previa autorización del emisor original. Si usted no es el destinatario, se le prohíbe su utilización total o parcial para cualquier fin. The content of this data transmission must not be considered an offer, proposal, understanding or agreement unless it is confirmed in a document signed by a legal representative of ITESM. The content of this data transmission is confidential and is intended to be delivered only to the addressees. Therefore, it shall not be distributed and/or disclosed through any means without the authorization of the original sender. If you are not the addressee, you are forbidden from using it, either totally or partially, for any purpose.
Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest
They also offer organic t-shirts. Kevin On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: > I don't know about all of their products, but the do have Made in USA shirts > -which may be made in sweatshops in the USA but theoratically should be made > following the employment laws of the USA which would not allow for taking > kids out of school in Uzbekistan. > > Edward > > > MJ Ray wrote: >> >> Michael J. Giarlo wrote: >> >>> >>> We've talked before about setting up a code4lib CafePress store. >>> Maybe we've already done it? It's an idea, at least. >>> >> >> Does CafePress sell ethical and organic cotton t-shirts? I feel we >> should try to avoid taking Uzbekistan's children out of school to >> make library-related clothing if we can. >> >> More information and links at >> http://www.news.software.coop/are-your-free-software-t-shirts-ethical/112/ >> >> Thanks, >> >
Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest
I don't know about all of their products, but the do have Made in USA shirts -which may be made in sweatshops in the USA but theoratically should be made following the employment laws of the USA which would not allow for taking kids out of school in Uzbekistan. Edward MJ Ray wrote: Michael J. Giarlo wrote: We've talked before about setting up a code4lib CafePress store. Maybe we've already done it? It's an idea, at least. Does CafePress sell ethical and organic cotton t-shirts? I feel we should try to avoid taking Uzbekistan's children out of school to make library-related clothing if we can. More information and links at http://www.news.software.coop/are-your-free-software-t-shirts-ethical/112/ Thanks,
Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest
Michael J. Giarlo wrote: > We've talked before about setting up a code4lib CafePress store. > Maybe we've already done it? It's an idea, at least. Does CafePress sell ethical and organic cotton t-shirts? I feel we should try to avoid taking Uzbekistan's children out of school to make library-related clothing if we can. More information and links at http://www.news.software.coop/are-your-free-software-t-shirts-ethical/112/ Thanks, -- MJ Ray, member of www.software.coop Experts in web and GNU/Linux (TTLLP # in subject emails = copy to all workers unless asked.) Turo Technology LLP, reg'd in England+Wales, number OC303457 Reg. Office: 36 Orchard Cl., Kewstoke, Somerset, GB-BS22 9XY
Re: [CODE4LIB] T-shirt Design Contest
correct me if i'm wrong, but didn't someone already set up a store. i distinctly remember there being a roy tennant thong (as do others if you google it). it appears to have gone away though... On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: > I like that idea (and the idea of it as something that exists apart > from the conference budget, but perhaps funds scholarships in the > following year). I think last year someone suggested putting all the > t-shirt submissions in there (not just the winning one - It lets folks > buy the conference shirt, but also others that might appeal to them). > I think anyone in the community could register > http://shop.cafepress.com/lisforge and manage it as a means to fund > scholarships (or contribute in some other way - depending on the > amount raised). > > Kevin > > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Michael J. Giarlo > wrote: >> We've talked before about setting up a code4lib CafePress store. >> Maybe we've already done it? It's an idea, at least. >> >> -Mike >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 16:40, Christina Salazar >> wrote: >>> Y'know... I think y'all should order extras and sell and ship them to >>> those of us who cannot attend. I love my past conference t-shirts and >>> they get some interesting reactions when I wear 'em. I'd buy any one >>> of these designs. >>> >>> Seems like you might be able to make a bit of dough for scholarships >>> and whatnot... >>> >>> Christina Salazar >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Patrick Hochstenbach >>> wrote: Hello All, Here is the Inkscape entry designed by my lovely wife :) Greetings from Belgium, P@ Skype: patrick.hochstenbach Patrick Hochstenbach Software Architect University Library +32(0)92647980 Ghent University * Rozier 9 * 9000 * Gent >>> >> >