Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-05 Thread Matt Machell
Owen mentioned the Talis (now Capita Libraries) model. If you'd like more info on that, our tech lead put his slides from the Linked Data in Libraries event online at: http://www.slideshare.net/philjohn/linked-library-data-in-the-wild-8593328 They cover some of the work we've done, approaches

[CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-05 Thread Emily Lynema
A colleague approached me this morning with an interesting question that I realized I didn't know how to answer. How are open source projects in the library community dancing around technologies that may have been patented by vendors? We were particularly wondering about this in light of open

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-05 Thread Mike Taylor
On 5 December 2011 13:17, Emily Lynema emily_lyn...@ncsu.edu wrote: A colleague approached me this morning with an interesting question that I realized I didn't know how to answer. How are open source projects in the library community dancing around technologies that may have been patented by

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-05 Thread MJ Ray
Emily Lynema emily_lyn...@ncsu.edu A colleague approached me this morning with an interesting question that I realized I didn't know how to answer. How are open source projects in the library community dancing around technologies that may have been patented by vendors? We were particularly

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-05 Thread Kaplan, Deborah
Emily Lynema emily_lyn...@ncsu.edu how are open source projects in the library community dancing around technologies that may have been patented by vendors? There's a parallel question: how are for-profit companies addressing the multiple violations of FLOSS licenses inherent in contemporary

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-05 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
IMHO, the idea of intellectual property on things that can be duplicated without any sort of degradation -- like software -- is absolutely absurd and bogus. --Eric Morgan

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-05 Thread Mike Taylor
On 5 December 2011 14:34, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote: IMHO, the idea of intellectual property on things that can be duplicated without any sort of degradation -- like software -- is absolutely absurd and bogus. --Eric Morgan No argument there. But arguably even worse is that

[CODE4LIB] RUSA MARS Hot Topics in Electronic Reference Discussion Group - Last call for participation

2011-12-05 Thread Val Waldron
Last call for participation! Deadline extended to December 7th. (Apologies for duplication) The RUSA MARS Hot Topics in Electronic Reference Discussion Group would like to know how your library is: Reaching out to patrons in virtual ways: old school successes and new initiatives. Has

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-05 Thread McDonald, Robert H.
Just a quick reply about Kuali OLE and Kuali projects in general. All Kuali Foundation apps are released under the Educational Community License v 2.0 - http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ecl2.php. Kuali OLE and many other Kuali apps use a firm called Black Duck to make sure we are current with

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-05 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Mike Taylor wrote: …since 90% of what a typical programmer does during a day IS independent reinvention of techniques. Yes, I concur, most certainly. I often say to myself, I've really only written about three or four original computer programs. All the hundreds

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-05 Thread Erik Hetzner
At Mon, 5 Dec 2011 08:17:26 -0500, Emily Lynema wrote: A colleague approached me this morning with an interesting question that I realized I didn't know how to answer. How are open source projects in the library community dancing around technologies that may have been patented by vendors? We

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-05 Thread Karen Coyle
Thanks, Matt. The RDF here uses BIBO and DC, and is therefore definitely lossy. I'm not saying that's a bad thing -- loss from MARC may well be the only way to save library metadata. What I would be interested in learning is how one decides WHAT to lose. Im also curious to know if any

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-05 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 12/5/2011 1:40 PM, Karen Coyle wrote: This brings up another point that I haven't fully grokked yet: the use of MARC kept library data consistent across the many thousands of libraries that had MARC-based systems. Well, only somewhat consistent, but, yeah. What happens if we move to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-05 Thread Cary Gordon
At the Drupal project, we actively work to inform folks of license infringement, and monitor released derivative works -- mostly modules -- to insure that they are including the GPL v2 license. We also work with the Software Freedom Law Center to address issues that are beyond our scope. Drupal

[CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Nate Hill
If I have in my PHP script a variable... $searchterm = 'Drawing'; And I want to update 'Drawing' to be 'Cooking' w/ a jQuery hover effect on the client side then I need to make an Ajax request, correct? What I can't figure out is what that is supposed to look like... something like... $.ajax({

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I'm not sure what you're trying to do makes sense. You'd have to write some PHP code to receive the AJAX request and use it to update the variable. There's nothing in PHP that will do this automatically. However, since, I believe, PHP variables are usually only 'in scope' for the context of

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Walker, David
And I want to update 'Drawing' to be 'Cooking' w/ a jQuery hover effect on the client side then I need to make an Ajax request, correct? What you probably want to do here, Nate, is simply output the PHP variable in your HTML response, like this: h1 id=foo?php echo $searchterm ?/h1 And

Re: [CODE4LIB] Pander Bear goes to Seattle (humor)

2011-12-05 Thread David Uspal
MichaelDoran++ -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Doran, Michael D Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:00 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Pander Bear goes to Seattle (humor) [cid:image001.png@01CCB365.D6B867E0]

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Cary Gordon
I can't tell what you are requesting via Ajax; I am not sure what you want to hover over; and I am not sure what the relationship of drawing, cooking and hovering is. I am guessing that $searchterm gets submitted to a search, but does it get submitted via ajax? What happens then? Thanks, Cary

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Nate Hill
As always, I provided too little information. Dave, it's much more involved than that I'm trying to make a kind of visual browser of popular materials from one of our branches from a .csv file. In order to display book covers for a series of searches by keyword, I query the catalog, scrape

Re: [CODE4LIB] Patents and open source projects

2011-12-05 Thread MJ Ray
Erik Hetzner erik.hetz...@ucop.edu 1. http://www.softwarefreedom.org/podcast/2011/aug/16/Episode-0x16-Legal-Basics-for-Developers/ Basically, the standard advice for patents is what Mike Taylor gave: ignore them. Pay attention to copyright and trademark issues (as the Koha problem shows),

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Walker, David
I gotcha. More information is, indeed, better. ;-) So, on the PHP side, you just need to grab the term from the query string, like this: $searchterm = $_GET['query']; And then in your JavaScript code, you'll send an AJAX request, like:

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Nate Hill
Something quite like that, my friend! Cheers N On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Walker, David dwal...@calstate.edu wrote: I gotcha. More information is, indeed, better. ;-) So, on the PHP side, you just need to grab the term from the query string, like this: $searchterm = $_GET['query'];

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Godmar Back
FWIW, I would not send HTML back to the client in an AJAX request - that style of AJAX fell out of favor years ago. Send back JSON instead and keep the view logic client-side. Consider using a library such as knockout.js. Instead of your current (difficult to maintain) mix of PhP and client-side

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-05 Thread Peter Noerr
See historical comment in text below. But, to look forward - It seems to me that we should be able to design a model with graceful degradation from full MARC data element set (vocabulary if you insist) to a core set which allows systems to fill in what they have and, on the receiving end,

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I still like sending HTML back from my server. I guess I never got the message that that was out of style, heh. My server application already has logic for creating HTML from templates, and quite possibly already creates this exact same piece of HTML in some other place, possibly for use with

Re: [CODE4LIB] Models of MARC in RDF

2011-12-05 Thread Fleming, Declan
Hi - I'll note that the mapping decisions were made by our metadata services (then Cataloging) group, not by the tech folks making it all work, though we were all involved in the discussions. One idea that came up was to do a, perhaps, lossy translation, but also stuff one triple with a text

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Cary Gordon
AHAH! On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: I still like sending HTML back from my server. I guess I never got the message that that was out of style, heh. My server application already has logic for creating HTML from templates, and quite possibly already

Re: [CODE4LIB] Unwritten Rules, formerly Pandering for votes for code4lib sessions

2011-12-05 Thread Fleming, Declan
Hi - the fact that some people felt left out was part of my motivation for writing this a while back: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/How_to_hack_code4lib It's not really rules, but an approach that I found helpful to getting into the community. Declan -Original Message- From:

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Godmar Back
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: I still like sending HTML back from my server. I guess I never got the message that that was out of style, heh. I suppose there are always some stalwart defenders of the status quo ;-) More seriously, I think I'd like

[CODE4LIB] Withdrawing Data-Mining Repository Contents to Auto-populate Scholarly Research Repository Submission Metadata proposal

2011-12-05 Thread Peter Murray
Mark Diggory asked the Code4LibCon program committee to withdraw his Data-Mining Repository Contents to Auto-populate Scholarly Research Repository Submission Metadata proposal due to a scheduling conflict will prevent him from presenting at the meeting in February. That selection has been

Re: [CODE4LIB] jQuery Ajax request to update a PHP variable

2011-12-05 Thread Nate Hill
I'd be really curious to see the different ways you all speak of accomplishing this, and would stand to learn a lot along the way. As a beginner with much of this, I have patched together this app using methods and means that I know, rather than the 'right' way. So, that said, I'm sure I'm doing

Re: [CODE4LIB] Pander Bear goes to Seattle (humor)

2011-12-05 Thread Michael B. Klein
ROFL. Thanks, Michael. I needed that. On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM, David Uspal david.us...@villanova.eduwrote: MichaelDoran++ -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Doran, Michael D Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:00 PM To: