Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.7

2014-12-09 Thread Sangjin Lee
If there are not a lot of changes just to make Java 7 a requirement (I understand it's basically pom changes and unit test failure and findbugs fallouts), how about merging that with the next release and declare the next release and on Java-7-only? On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Steve Loughran w

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.7

2014-12-08 Thread Steve Loughran
On 8 December 2014 at 19:48, Colin McCabe wrote: > Are there a lot of open JDK7 > issues that would require a release to straighten out? > I don't think so —the 2.6 release was tested pretty aggressively on JDK7, and solely on it for Windows. Pushing out a 2.7 release would be more symbolic than

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.7

2014-12-08 Thread Colin McCabe
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Karthik Kambatla wrote: > It would be nice to cut the branch for the next "feature" release (not just > Java 7) in the first week of January, so we can get the RC out by the end > of the month? > > Yesterday, this came up in an offline discussion on ATS. Given peop

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.7

2014-12-05 Thread Karthik Kambatla
It would be nice to cut the branch for the next "feature" release (not just Java 7) in the first week of January, so we can get the RC out by the end of the month? Yesterday, this came up in an offline discussion on ATS. Given people can run 2.6 on Java 7, is there merit to doing 2.7 with the exac

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.7

2014-12-04 Thread Sangjin Lee
Late January sounds fine to me. I think we should be able to wrap it up much earlier than that (hopefully). Thanks, Sangjin On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Arun C Murthy wrote: > Sangjin/Karthik, > > How about planning on hadoop-2.8 by late Jan? Thoughts? > > thanks, > Arun > > On Dec 2, 2014,

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.7

2014-12-02 Thread Arun C Murthy
Sangjin/Karthik, How about planning on hadoop-2.8 by late Jan? Thoughts? thanks, Arun On Dec 2, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Sangjin Lee wrote: > If 2.7 is being positioned as the JDK7-only release, then it would be good > to know how 2.8 lines up in terms of timing. Our interest is landing the > share

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.7

2014-12-02 Thread Sangjin Lee
If 2.7 is being positioned as the JDK7-only release, then it would be good to know how 2.8 lines up in terms of timing. Our interest is landing the shared cache feature (YARN-1492)... Thanks. Sangjin On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Karthik Kambatla wrote: > Thanks for starting this thread, Arun

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.7

2014-12-01 Thread Karthik Kambatla
Thanks for starting this thread, Arun. Your proposal seems reasonable to me. I suppose we would like new features and improvements to go into 2.8 then? If yes, what time frame are we looking at for 2.8? Looking at YARN, it would be nice to get a release with shared-cache and a stable version of re

Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.7

2014-12-01 Thread Arun Murthy
Folks, With hadoop-2.6 out it's time to think ahead. As we've discussed in the past, 2.6 was the last release which supports JDK6. I'm thinking it's best to try get 2.7 out in a few weeks (maybe by the holidays) with just the switch to JDK7 (HADOOP-10530) and possibly support for JDK-1.8 (as a r

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-11-05 Thread Arun C Murthy
>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I actually would like to see both archival storage and single replica >>>>>>>> memory writes to be in 2.6 release. Archival storage is in the

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-10-23 Thread Yongjun Zhang
t;>>>> in the final stages to be merged to branch-2. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Regards, >> >>>>>> Tsz-Wo >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>&g

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-10-19 Thread Yongjun Zhang
00 AM, Suresh Srinivas < > >>>>>> sur...@hortonworks.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I actually would like to see b

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-10-15 Thread Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli
rks.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I actually would like to see both archival storage and single > replica > >>>>>>

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-10-14 Thread Arun C Murthy
gt;>>>> memory writes to be in 2.6 release. Archival storage is in the final >>>>>> stages >>>>>>> of getting ready for branch-2 merge as Nicholas has already indicated >>>> on >>>>>>> the dev mailing list. Hopefully HDFS-

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-10-02 Thread Arun C Murthy
; stages >>>>>>> of getting ready for branch-2 merge as Nicholas has already indicated >>>> on >>>>>>> the dev mailing list. Hopefully HDFS-6581 gets ready sooner. Both of >>>>> these >>>>>>> features are bei

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-26 Thread Arun Murthy
ngly? >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the KMS and transparent encryption are ready to go. We've >> got >>> a >>>>>> very few further bug fixes pending, but that's it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Two

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-24 Thread Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli
eds a little more work before it goes into > > branch-2. > > > >> HDFS-6581 hasn't even been merged to trunk yet, so seems a bit > further > > > off > > > >> yet. > > > >> > > > >&g

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-24 Thread Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli
it - hopefully in the next few weeks. > > Thoughts? > > thanks, > Arun > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Arun C Murthy > wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > With hadoop-2.5 nearly done, it's time to start thinking ahead to > > hadoop-

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-24 Thread Jing Zhao
nt encryption are ready to go. We've > > got > > > a > > > > >> very few further bug fixes pending, but that's it. > > > > >> > > > > >> Two HDFS things that I think probably won't make the end of the > week > > > ar

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-24 Thread Jitendra Pandey
ingle replica memory writes > > > (HDFS-6581), > > > >> which I believe are under the HSM banner. HDFS-6484 was just merged > to > > > >> trunk and I think needs a little more work before it goes into > > branch-2. > > > >> HDFS-6581 hasn'

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-24 Thread Suresh Srinivas
work directly on these features. I just > > generally > > >> shy away from shipping bits quite this fresh. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Andrew > > >> > > >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:03 PM,

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-24 Thread Andrew Wang
t;> Andrew > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Arun Murthy > wrote: > >> > >> > Looks like most of the content is in and hadoop-2.6 is shaping up > nicely. > >> > > >> > I'll create branch-2.6 by end of the week

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-23 Thread Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze
n Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Arun Murthy wrote: >> >> > Looks like most of the content is in and hadoop-2.6 is shaping up nicely. >> > >> > I'll create branch-2.6 by end of the week and we can go from there to >> > stabilize it - hopefully in the n

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-23 Thread Sangjin Lee
did not work directly on these features. I just > > > generally > > > > > shy away from shipping bits quite this fresh. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 2

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-23 Thread Subramaniam V K
t; > generally > > > > shy away from shipping bits quite this fresh. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Arun Murthy > > > wrote: > > > > > > &g

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-23 Thread Karthik Kambatla
he content is in and hadoop-2.6 is shaping up > > nicely. > > > > > > > > I'll create branch-2.6 by end of the week and we can go from there to > > > > stabilize it - hopefully in the next few weeks. > > > > > > > > Thoughts? &g

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-23 Thread Andrew Wang
; > > > > Looks like most of the content is in and hadoop-2.6 is shaping up > nicely. > > > > > > I'll create branch-2.6 by end of the week and we can go from there to > > > stabilize it - hopefully in the next few weeks. > > > > > >

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-23 Thread Chris Trezzo
run Murthy > wrote: > > > > > Looks like most of the content is in and hadoop-2.6 is shaping up > nicely. > > > > > > I'll create branch-2.6 by end of the week and we can go from there to > > > stabilize it - hopefully in the next few weeks. > &g

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-23 Thread Suresh Srinivas
to > > stabilize it - hopefully in the next few weeks. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > thanks, > > Arun > > > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Arun C Murthy > > wrote: > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > With hadoop-2.5

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-23 Thread Andrew Wang
; > I'll create branch-2.6 by end of the week and we can go from there to > stabilize it - hopefully in the next few weeks. > > Thoughts? > > thanks, > Arun > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Arun C Murthy > wrote: > > > Folks, > > > >

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-23 Thread Arun Murthy
gt; > With hadoop-2.5 nearly done, it's time to start thinking ahead to > hadoop-2.6. > > Currently, here is the Roadmap per the wiki: > > • HADOOP > • Credential provider HADOOP-10607 > • HDFS > • Heterogeneous storage (

Re: In hindsight... Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-23 Thread Arun Murthy
Sorry, coming to discussion late. We all agreed that 2.6 would the *last* release supporting JDK6 and hadoop-2.7 would drop support for JDK6. We could easily do 2.7 right after 2.6 (maybe with few critical bug-fixes) with the defining feature of 2.7 being *JDK7 only*. I've checked with HBase, Pig

Re: In hindsight... Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-17 Thread Travis Thompson
There's actually an umbrella JIRA to track issues with JDK8 (HADOOP-11090), in case anyone missed it. At LinkedIn we've been running our Hadoop 2.3 deployment on JDK8 for about a month now with some mixed results. It definitely works but there are issues, mostly around virtual memory exploding.

Re: In hindsight... Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-17 Thread Allen Wittenauer
On Sep 17, 2014, at 2:47 AM, Steve Loughran wrote: > > I don't agree. Certainly the stuff I got into Hadoop 2.5 nailed down the > filesystem binding with more tests than ever before. FWIW, based upon my survey of JIRA, there are a lot of unit test fixes that are only in trunk. > But

Re: In hindsight... Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-17 Thread Steve Loughran
gt; to > > the list? We have most of the patches for the sub-JIRAs under review and > > have committed a couple. > > > > -Subru > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > > > From: Arun C Murthy > > > > Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2014 a

Re: In hindsight... Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-15 Thread Allen Wittenauer
On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Colin McCabe wrote: > On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Allen Wittenauer wrote: >> >>It’s now September. With the passage of time, I have a lot of doubts >> about this plan and where that trajectory takes us. >> >> * The list of changes that are already

Re: In hindsight... Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-15 Thread Colin McCabe
e patches for the sub-JIRAs under review and >> have committed a couple. >> >> -Subru >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> >> From: Arun C Murthy >> >> Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM >> >> Subject: Thinking ahead to ha

In hindsight... Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-09-15 Thread Allen Wittenauer
he sub-JIRAs under review and > have committed a couple. > > -Subru > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Arun C Murthy > > Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM > > Subject: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6 > > To: "common-dev@hadoop

Re: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-08-15 Thread Subramaniam Krishnan
e, Aug 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM Subject: Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6 To: "common-dev@hadoop.apache.org" , " hdfs-...@hadoop.apache.org" , " mapreduce-...@hadoop.apache.org" , "yarn-...@hadoop.apache.org" Folks, With hadoop-2.5 nearly done, i

Thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6

2014-08-12 Thread Arun C Murthy
Folks, With hadoop-2.5 nearly done, it's time to start thinking ahead to hadoop-2.6. Currently, here is the Roadmap per the wiki: • HADOOP • Credential provider HADOOP-10607 • HDFS • Heterogeneous storage (Phase 2) - Support APIs for

Re: Thinking ahead

2014-04-14 Thread Tsuyoshi OZAWA
Hi, +1 for 2.4.1 release(non-binding). There are some critical issues including YARN-1861 and YARN-1929 about RM-HA. IMO, we should include the fixes. One question is whether we can include RM-HA phase 2(YARN-556) in 2.5 by mid-May. It's still work-in-progress. Thanks, - Tsuyoshi On Mon, Apr 1

Re: Thinking ahead

2014-04-14 Thread Akira AJISAKA
+1 (non-binding) for 2.4.1 release. > We can debate whether or June is too early for hadoop-2.5 and it's > contents, but I recollect there was consensus that releases every 6 > weeks (or so) makes sense. Also, +1 (non-binding) for the 6 weeks (or so) timeline releases. However, I'm thinking it's

Re: Thinking ahead

2014-04-14 Thread Zhijie Shen
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Arun C Murthy wrote: > > I just opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-1935. I've just assigned the ticket to me, and opened/linked a number of related tickets. I'll work on the security issues of the timeline server. Thanks, Zhijie -- Zhijie Shen H

Re: Thinking ahead

2014-04-13 Thread Sandy Ryza
Reference: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/hadoop-common-dev/201401.mbox/%3ccajs6+b4tkupvqfaorf_314xveivryqy-vtryd8+36tu_bc5...@mail.gmail.com%3E This is of course open source, and I have neither the ability nor the desire to compel or pressure anybody to work on anything, but I wanted to

Re: Thinking ahead

2014-04-13 Thread Sandy Ryza
Unfortunately I don't have the bandwidth to take on ATS security at this time. My (I now understand mistaken) impression that it was being worked on, as we had discussed it under the initial criteria for including the AHS in a release. I brought it up as a feature I felt worth waiting for if it m

Re: Thinking ahead

2014-04-13 Thread Arun C Murthy
Sandy, On Apr 12, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Sandy Ryza wrote: > I'm having trouble editing the wiki, but I think Timeline Server stability > (e.g. security and locking down APIs) should go on that list. I'm very glad to see you are very passionate about security for ATS since you've asked about it

Re: Thinking ahead

2014-04-13 Thread Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli
I'm still wading through 2.4.1 critical issues (failing tests, blockers etc) so haven't gotten time to think about the 2.5 list w.r.t YARN. Will do so in the next week. BTW, folks, please refrain from adding items to the list that you yourselves are not volunteering to work on. Anyone keen to see

Re: Thinking ahead

2014-04-13 Thread Arun C. Murthy
> On Apr 12, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Sandy Ryza wrote: > > +1 for starting to think about 2.5. Early June seems a little early to me > - we had talked about a quarterly release cadence and this would be about > half that. We can debate whether or June is too early for hadoop-2.5 and it's contents,

Re: Thinking ahead

2014-04-12 Thread Zhijie Shen
+1 for Timeline Server stability. In addition to the security, we may also want to deal with scalability, generic and per-framework services integration and MR integration. Any plan about YARN long running services? On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Sandy Ryza wrote: > +1 for starting to think

Re: Thinking ahead

2014-04-12 Thread Sandy Ryza
+1 for starting to think about 2.5. Early June seems a little early to me - we had talked about a quarterly release cadence and this would be about half that. I'm having trouble editing the wiki, but I think Timeline Server stability (e.g. security and locking down APIs) should go on that list.

Re: Thinking ahead

2014-04-12 Thread Chris Nauroth
+1 The proposed content for 2.5 in the roadmap wiki looks good to me. On Apr 12, 2014 7:26 AM, "Arun C Murthy" wrote: > Gang, > > With hadoop-2.4 out, it's time to think ahead. > > In the short-term hadoop-2.4.1 is in order; particularly with > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-5

Thinking ahead

2014-04-12 Thread Arun C Murthy
Gang, With hadoop-2.4 out, it's time to think ahead. In the short-term hadoop-2.4.1 is in order; particularly with https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MAPREDUCE-5830 (it's a break to @Private API, unfortunately something Hive is using - sigh!). There are some other fixes which testing has

Re: Thinking ahead to 2.4

2014-03-20 Thread Sandy Ryza
mp; > Support > >>>>> for Heterogenous Storage. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Now, most of the key pieces incl. Resource Manager Automatic > Failover > >>>>> (YARN-149), Application History Server (YARN-321) &

Re: Thinking ahead to 2.4

2014-03-14 Thread Arun C Murthy
age. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, most of the key pieces incl. Resource Manager Automatic Failover >>>>> (YARN-149), Application History Server (YARN-321) & Application Timeline >>>>> Server (YARN-1530) are either complete or very close to d

Re: Thinking ahead to 2.4

2014-03-11 Thread Arun C Murthy
RN-1530) are either complete or very close to done, and I think >>>> we will benefit with an extended test-cycle for 2.4 - similar to what >>>> happened with 2.2. To provide some context: 2.2 went through nearly 6 weeks >>>> of extended testing and it

Re: Thinking ahead to 2.4

2014-03-06 Thread Arun C Murthy
me context: 2.2 went through nearly 6 weeks >>> of extended testing and it really helped us push out a very stable release. >>>> >>>> I think it will be good to create a 2.4 branch ASAP and start testing. >>> As such, I plan to cut the branch early next wee

Re: Thinking ahead to 2.4

2014-02-20 Thread Arun C Murthy
; of extended testing and it really helped us push out a very stable release. >>> >>> I think it will be good to create a 2.4 branch ASAP and start testing. >> As such, I plan to cut the branch early next week. With this, we should be >> good shape sometime to rel

Re: Thinking ahead to 2.4

2014-02-20 Thread Suresh Srinivas
it really helped us push out a very stable release. > > > > I think it will be good to create a 2.4 branch ASAP and start testing. > As such, I plan to cut the branch early next week. With this, we should be > good shape sometime to release 2.4 in mid-March. > > > >

Re: Thinking ahead to 2.4

2014-02-17 Thread Arun C Murthy
very stable release. >> >> I think it will be good to create a 2.4 branch ASAP and start testing. As >> such, I plan to cut the branch early next week. With this, we should be good >> shape sometime to release 2.4 in mid-March. >> >> I've updated https:

Re: Thinking ahead to 2.4

2014-02-17 Thread Arun C Murthy
> such, I plan to cut the branch early next week. With this, we should be good > shape sometime to release 2.4 in mid-March. > > I've updated https://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Roadmap to reflect this. > > Also, we should start thinking ahead to 2.5 and what folks would like to see

Re: Thinking ahead to 2.4

2014-02-17 Thread Arun C Murthy
> such, I plan to cut the branch early next week. With this, we should be good > shape sometime to release 2.4 in mid-March. > > I've updated https://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Roadmap to reflect this. > > Also, we should start thinking ahead to 2.5 and what folks would like to see

Thinking ahead to 2.4

2014-02-15 Thread Arun C Murthy
e 2.4 in mid-March. I've updated https://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/Roadmap to reflect this. Also, we should start thinking ahead to 2.5 and what folks would like to see in it. If we continue our 6-week cycles, we could shoot to get that out in April. Thoughts? thanks, Arun -- Arun C. Murth