Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-11 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Hi Simon, I really appreciate your input, thanks again :) On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:15:11 +1300, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I already tried to explain. Both are soo different. No need for any worries... They even serve a different audience I guess. Digester is good

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-11 Thread Dion Gillard
If you're looking for something simple, you may want to check out http://xstream.codehaus.org/ as well. On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:35:01 +0200, Oliver Zeigermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Simon, I really appreciate your input, thanks again :) On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 19:15:11 +1300, Simon

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-11 Thread Daniel Florey
Jakarta Commons Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 11.10.04 09:50:48: If you're looking for something simple, you may want to check out http://xstream.codehaus.org/ as well. I just checked it out and it looks very sweet! Very clean approach (looks simpler to me as betwixt because

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-10 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Could be, but if it already works (with SAX I guess) and it is maintainable there is not need for a change. xmlio just makes SAX so much easier and convernient to use. Oliver On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 10:08:05 -0400, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oliver Zeigermann wrote: I understand

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-10 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 07:59:53 +0100, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 alternatives are good but direct competitors are bad. we are short of developer energy here in the commons and components in the same area should share a community and coorperate rather than fight for mind

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
a few comments: 1 in the sandbox, anything goes. 2 if i18n depends on xmlio then xmlio needs to promoted and released before i18n is. so, it's important that xmlio has a good chance of being promoted and that any possible issues are discussed now. 3 alternatives are good but direct competitors

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-08 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
xmlio sounds like a nice name. I will prepare something to check in for general inspection... Oliver On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 23:27:39 +0100, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the key items in the commons charter is allowing different solutions to the same problem. So far, we have

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-08 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Ah, now I understand your fears. Just another XML-Java mapper flying around ih the user list: http://beck.sourceforge.net/. However, xmlio is not a mapper to Java objects, you just receiver augmented SAX call backs. Enough talk, I will prepare something now... Oliver On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:27:37

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-08 Thread Mike Stanley
How does this compare with StAX parser implementations? - Mike On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 15:53, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: XMLBeans is super high level, XML Im-/Exporter is super low level. E.g. XML Im-/Exporter (silly name by the way, any better ideas?) could *theortically* be the base of

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-08 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
StAX is a new parser type. It is streaming, i.e. you get one token after the other upon request. xmlio still uses a standard SAX parser and merely augments callbacks. Oliver On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 08:03:36 -0400, Mike Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does this compare with StAX parser

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-08 Thread Mike Stanley
cool. I look forward to checking it out. IMO - that's what a sandbox is for. The dependency issue is a Java problem, not just a Jakarta commons problem. BTW- There appears to be a lot of xmlio's out there: http://www.google.com/search?q=xmlio You may want to consider a different name.

RE: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Oliver Zeigermann wrote: I understand your fears. However, xmlio is not a mapper to Java objects, you just receiver augmented SAX call backs. Is this something that could be pitched to Digester and XMLBeans to use under the covers? What would be the pros/cons of their adopting this package

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-08 Thread James Mitchell
: Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2004 23:46 An: Jakarta Commons Developers List Betreff: Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 23:27:39 +0100, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the key items in the commons charter is allowing different solutions to the same problem. So far

RE: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-08 Thread Gary Gregory
, October 08, 2004 05:08 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox StAX is a new parser type. It is streaming, i.e. you get one token after the other upon request. xmlio still uses a standard SAX parser and merely augments

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-08 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
Zeigermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 05:08 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox StAX is a new parser type. It is streaming, i.e. you get one token after the other upon request. xmlio still

RE: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-07 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi, How does this compare to XMLBeans? Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics -Original Message- From: Oliver Zeigermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox Folks, on the

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-07 Thread Oliver Zeigermann
XMLBeans is super high level, XML Im-/Exporter is super low level. E.g. XML Im-/Exporter (silly name by the way, any better ideas?) could *theortically* be the base of XMLBeans. It is pretty near to SAX. Oliver On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:38:10 -0400, Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-07 Thread David Graham
This will create bloat problems for clients that use Digester. For example: Struts uses Digester for xml parsing. In the future Struts may want to use the new i18n component. However, if i18n uses XML Im-Exporter then Struts must drag that along too despite already having a perfectly fine xml

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-07 Thread Stephen Colebourne
One of the key items in the commons charter is allowing different solutions to the same problem. So far, we have tended to avoid this (for example, I took a conflicting primitives design elsewhere) however we should not block this. What is being requested at this point is to factor out some code

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-07 Thread Simon Kitching
On Fri, 2004-10-08 at 11:27, Stephen Colebourne wrote: One of the key items in the commons charter is allowing different solutions to the same problem. So far, we have tended to avoid this (for example, I took a conflicting primitives design elsewhere) however we should not block this. What

Re: XML Im-/Ex-porter into Commons Sandbox

2004-10-07 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 23:27:39 +0100, Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the key items in the commons charter is allowing different solutions to the same problem. So far, we have tended to avoid this (for example, I took a conflicting primitives design elsewhere) however we should