Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-25 Thread Steve Cohen
Paul Libbrecht wrote: You're underestimating the eclipse deployment. Am I? I don't think so. I am not talking about general use of subversion, I am talking about use of svn to manage jakarta-commons projects. The only problematic use case I've found with subeclipse is adding a project to a

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-25 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
+1 On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 13:31 -0500, Tim O'Brien wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive migration time possible.

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-24 Thread Mark R. Diggory
+1 -Mark Diggory Jerome Jar wrote: +1 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:31:17 -0500, Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-24 Thread Don Brown
+1 - it really has proved its worth with Struts Don On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:14:12 -0500, Mark R. Diggory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 -Mark Diggory Jerome Jar wrote: +1 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:31:17 -0500, Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Ted Husted
+1 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:31:17 -0500, Tim O'Brien wrote:  Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments  and testing.  This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN.  If this vote  passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive  migration time possible.

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Tim O'Brien wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive migration time possible. +0 I have never used Subversion yet, so I'll

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 23 Jan 2005, at 03:31, peter royal wrote: On Jan 22, 2005, at 10:25 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: If you're an IDE-only developer and you don't care about backing out changes, merging, refactoring, or tagging and branching, then you might have a point about a winning proposition for the developer.

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Dennis Lundberg
robert burrell donkin wrote: On 23 Jan 2005, at 03:31, peter royal wrote: On Jan 22, 2005, at 10:25 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: If you're an IDE-only developer and you don't care about backing out changes, merging, refactoring, or tagging and branching, then you might have a point about a winning

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Joe Germuska
I haven't followed every bit of the thread on the SVN migration, but I just want to echo Martin Cooper's sentiments: once you start using it, you realize how badly CVS was in need of an overhaul. For Struts, not only have there been no committers who have mentioned any significant problems in

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Oliver Heger
+0 I am using eclipse and tried subclipse. Well, it worked, though it is not by far as mature as eclipse's built in CVS support. Hope this will change in the future. For now: Does anybody know a way of automatically setting those svn:eol-style properties? I keep forgetting this. Oliver Tim

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread David Graham
+1 David --- Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive migration time possible.

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Mauro Franceschini
+1 Mauro. On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:03:35 +0100, Oliver Heger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +0 I am using eclipse and tried subclipse. Well, it worked, though it is not by far as mature as eclipse's built in CVS support. Hope this will change in the future. For now: Does anybody know a way of

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Paul Libbrecht
+1 ... and let's enjoy the return to command-line! ;- (just kidding, honestly) paul Le 22 janv. 05, à 19:31, Tim O'Brien a écrit : Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Henri Yandell
+1. Subclipse worked fine for me, and I never trust IDEs to do tagging/branching/scripts anyway. IDEA will have it asap (else they'll lose customers to Eclipse) and none of the other IDEs are interesting enough to matter :) Hen On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:01:50 +0100, Paul Libbrecht [EMAIL

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim O'Brien write s: This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Torsten Curdt
This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote I can only express my opinion here. ...but whether I talk about our experiences over at cocoon or my experiences with other repositories. ...even if subclipse is not yet comparable with the excellent cvs client that comes with

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Steve Cohen
Tim O'Brien wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive migration time possible. Tim O'Brien

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Paul Libbrecht
You're underestimating the eclipse deployment. All friends I know who use Windows have no other ways of using cvs than Eclipse... (they know they can do differently but...). But the migration is clearly going to tighten the wish for maturity of Subclipse paul Le 24 janv. 05, à 00:35, Steve

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread peter royal
On Jan 23, 2005, at 7:24 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: so, for those who use IDEs who would suffer if we moved to subversion now, i have two questions: i wouldn't say i would suffer, just that i wouldn't pull the trigger right now (but i'm not going to block forward progress) would an extra

RE: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Hans Gilde
Developers List Subject: [all][VOTE] svn migration Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive migration time possible. Tim O'Brien

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-23 Thread Jerome Jar
+1 On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:31:17 -0500, Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive

[all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread Tim O'Brien
Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive migration time possible. Tim O'Brien

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread Martin Cooper
+1 -- Martin Cooper On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:31:17 -0500, Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread Phil Steitz
+1 Phil Tim O'Brien wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive migration time possible. Tim O'Brien

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread Stephen Colebourne
-0.9 (ie. in offical ASF voting its only a -0) I feel like I'm being forced over the edge of a cliff. I hope I'm wrong. Stephen - Original Message - From: Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread Rory Winston
+1 Looking forward to using SVN. As long as Subclipse is up to par, that is :-) Stephen Colebourne wrote: -0.9 (ie. in offical ASF voting its only a -0) I feel like I'm being forced over the edge of a cliff. I hope I'm wrong. Stephen - Original Message - From: Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread PA
On Jan 22, 2005, at 20:38, Stephen Colebourne wrote: I feel like I'm being forced over the edge of a cliff. I hope I'm wrong. Once you are over that cliff, look at the scenery: http://www.edgewall.com/trac/ Cheers -- PA http://alt.textdrive.com/

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread Dion Gillard
I'm -0. I'm hoping all the stability issues are resolved, as it's only been a week or so since the frequent outages stopped. Subclipse is bearable and hopefully getting better. On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:31:17 -0500, Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread peter royal
On Jan 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Tim O'Brien wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive migration time possible. -0 don't see it

RE: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread Gary Gregory
-0 I'd prefer to wait until we know Eclipse support (Subclipse or otherwise) is on par with CVS support. Gary -Original Message- From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 10:31 AM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: [all][VOTE] svn migration

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread Martin Cooper
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:43:23 -0500, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22, 2005, at 1:31 PM, Tim O'Brien wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread peter royal
On Jan 22, 2005, at 10:25 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: If you're an IDE-only developer and you don't care about backing out changes, merging, refactoring, or tagging and branching, then you might have a point about a winning proposition for the developer. But once you've experienced SVN's atomic

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread Alex Karasulu
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Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread Simon Kitching
On Sat, 2005-01-22 at 13:31 -0500, Tim O'Brien wrote: Alright a sufficient amount of time has passed for public comments and testing. This is a vote thread for migrating commons to SVN. If this vote passes, I'll contact Justin and schedule the least disruptive migration time possible. +1

Re: [all][VOTE] svn migration

2005-01-22 Thread Mario Ivankovits
don't see it is a winning value proposition for the developer until tools catch up (specifically IDEA in my case and catching up is built-in support equivalent to CVS) +0 Even if the tool support isnt that good today I would like to see the svn migration. I think this is a chicken-egg