Dirk-Willem van Gulik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ? Feel free
to drop Tim of the Cc to preserve dignity/privacy.
I wouldn't mind if you also forget to unsubscribe him after this
discussion ends.
--
Joe Schaefer
On 28 Jan 2003, Joe Schaefer wrote:
Dirk-Willem van Gulik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ? Feel free
to drop Tim of the Cc to preserve dignity/privacy.
I wouldn't mind if you also forget to unsubscribe him after this
discussion
Dirk-Willem van Gulik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 28 Jan 2003, Joe Schaefer wrote:
Dirk-Willem van Gulik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ? Feel free
to drop Tim of the Cc to preserve dignity/privacy.
I wouldn't mind if you
+1
Get the guy in :)
Mvgr,
Martin
-Original Message-
From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 01:30
To: community@apache.org
Cc: O'brien, Tim
Subject: Re: You can at.
On 28 Jan 2003, Joe Schaefer wrote:
Dirk-Willem
In the community@ archives you can find the vote on whether this list
should be open or closed.
WHAT archives? As I have commented on before, eyebrowse has none for
community@ (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SummarizeList?listId=108).
Are they elsewhere? If so, where?
--- Noel
Didn't we settle this most contentious issue some time ago with a few
megabytes of text and a long complex vote coupled with a solid turn
out? If so it's painful and cruel to reopen the issue. - ben
Too bad, the community@ list advocated it and should therefore maintain
it. You're welcome to call a vote to invite him (here's my +1)
-aaron
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 06:06 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
He cannot take it up on community@ -- that list is closed as well.
He's not a
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Steven Noels wrote:
Related to that: _who_ is able to request access for invited parties?
AFAIK Anyone on this list. Or at least that was the consensus after
150Mbyte or more of dicussion on open and closedness :-)
Dw.
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Steven Noels wrote:
Related to that: _who_ is able to request access for invited parties?
AFAIK Anyone on this list. Or at least that was the consensus after
150Mbyte or more of dicussion on open and closedness :-)
I just saw Stefano's vote round
We're not really trying to hide anything. What you might
be able to attribute to malice, attribute to, umm,
absentmindedness.
For the record, malice never occured to me as an option. I'd asked about
archives previously, without a response. So when the comment was ever so
casually made that
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
It's probably an oversight, nothing more. Drop a message to apmail@
(oh heck, I'll CC them in this message right now) and they should be
able to set it up. Also community@ should be added to the publically
available archives in
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
In any case, being a charity is only justified if individuals are
contributing money. Right now, they aren't.
Would that be as simple as opening up some PayPall account? I'm sure
some of use would be happy to contribute something. With the current
intention of getting our
Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
So I'll do the deed - any objections to inviting Tim in here ?
As the factual proposer: sure!
Noone objects to Tim's invitation. I personally would like to
ensure that since he's here now, he can also expect to stay
Henri Gomez wrote:
Questions :
- Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org
where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ?
I have no problem with PMCs having weblogs as part of their public
face. I am concerned that this diverts attention from the code
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
It's probably an oversight, nothing more. Drop a message to apmail@
(oh heck, I'll CC them in this message right now) and they should be
able to set it up. Also community@ should be added to the publically
available
Let's (re)start the poll here since it's the commiters list
was innapropriate ;(
Subject: weblog package on apache.org
The goal of this poll is to get commiters feedback on
having a weblog package on apache.org.
The basic idea is to provide ASF commiters a tool which
could be used to expose their
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Henri Gomez wrote:
- Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org
where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ?
+1
I don't think it is a need - but it would be a good idea.
I know there are free or cheap hosting sites - but the
Thom May wrote:
- Should we select a Java based solution (the request came from
jakarta-general initially), or anything else ?
I think this question and the following one are premature. We need to agree
on the necessity of *having* committer or project blogging before discussing
what
Henri Gomez wrote:
Let's (re)start the poll here since it's the commiters list
was innapropriate ;(
Sure thing ;)
Subject: weblog package on apache.org
The goal of this poll is to get commiters feedback on
having a weblog package on apache.org.
The basic idea is to provide ASF commiters a tool
Ben Hyde said:
Didn't we settle this most contentious issue some time ago with a few
megabytes of text and a long complex vote coupled with a solid turn
out? If so it's painful and cruel to reopen the issue. - ben
I've already apologized twice for rehashing an old issue, but that is
From: Joshua Slive [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:27 PM
Ben Hyde said:
Didn't we settle this most contentious issue some time ago with a few
megabytes of text and a long complex vote coupled with a solid turn
out? If so it's painful and cruel to reopen the
And no, allowing invited guests does not eliminate either problem.
I'm not sure this is the type of community that I want to participate
in.
Live with it, unsubscribe or put up a vote to have it your way. Just stop
complaining about it.
Mvgr,
Martin
Joshua Slive wrote:
Ben Hyde said:
Didn't we settle this most contentious issue some time ago with a few
megabytes of text and a long complex vote coupled with a solid turn
out? If so it's painful and cruel to reopen the issue. - ben
I've already apologized twice for rehashing an old issue, but
1. The list is, at minimum, terribly misnamed.
Yes. It has been a misnomer from the start.
And that was debated at great (and extremely painful) length on the reorg@
list before the new list was setup.
Remember the community@ list was supposed to be a cure for many of the ills
that people
And no, allowing invited guests does not eliminate either problem.
I'm not sure this is the type of community that I want to participate
in.
Live with it, unsubscribe or put up a vote to have it your way. Just stop
complaining about it.
Do people actually believe that having a poll
David Reid wrote:
[...]
I wish people would stop doing this...
Nicola - while I appreciate your wish to push your project (don't we all)
what you're talking about and what I was talking about are totally
different!
The project in itself has nothing to do with it. I'm just saying that
there are
sorry, but not only has this been a really bad week for me, but
i'm bloody well sick and tired of people using this list to
look back on what they (as a minority) thought was done wrong,
You can make any comment you like this week Ken :) Thanx for warning us..
I wonder if we could do something fun.
I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various
people in the community are located on the planet.
My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1]
on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use
Cool +1..
I've already setup geoUrl so the headers are in place. (except for the
ASF-KIND though)
Mvgr,
Martin
-Original Message-
From: Ben Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:58
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Where are we?
I wonder if we could
Actually we could skip the ASF-KIND boondoggle at first too. At that
point the only thing we need is to collect URL's that have the icbm
info in them. This will make so much easier for the authorities when
the time comes! - ben
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:03 PM, Martin van den
David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- Did there is a need for a weblog package installed at apache.org
where commiters could put notes about THEIR ASF related works ?
-1
A blog (in the context it's being pushed now) is (IMHO) really just
another outlet for news on a project that
Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that shows
where we'd *like* to be...
david
- Original Message -
From: Ben Hyde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: community@apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Where are we?
Actually we could skip the
--On Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:15:16 + David Reid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that
shows where we'd *like* to be...
In your case, we could show where your plane is. 40,000ft above the
Atlantic Ocean in the middle of
* Justin Erenkrantz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
--On Wednesday, January 29, 2003 19:15:16 + David Reid
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that
shows where we'd *like* to be...
In your case, we could show where your plane is.
[1] http://geourl.com/
ekk! I meant:http://geourl.org/
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Just heard a plain is perfect for spec writing :) (Dirk-Willem?)
The result is called PLOP (for belgians and dutch people with kids : Nee
geen Kabouter Plop!)
See http://www-nrc.nokia.com/mail-archive/ietf-spatial/msg00358.html for
details :)
Mvgr,
Martin
-Original Message-
From:
* Justin Erenkrantz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
Do we have to be truthful and honest? :) Maybe we could have one that
shows where we'd *like* to be...
In your case, we could show where your plane is. 40,000ft above the
Atlantic Ocean in the middle of nowhere. =) -- justin
Hmm, I
Never right specs in a fright container.
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:36 PM, Martin van den Bemt wrote:
Just heard a plain is perfect for spec writing :) (Dirk-Willem?)
The result is called PLOP (for belgians and dutch people with kids :
Nee
geen Kabouter Plop!)
See
Ben Hyde wrote:
I wonder if we could do something fun.
I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various
people in the community are located on the planet.
enthusiast +1
My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1] on
some web page of their. That can
What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles? Does not
compute.
At 14:11 29.01.2003 -0500, you wrote:
Actually we could skip the ASF-KIND boondoggle at first too. At that
point the only thing we need is to collect URL's that have the icbm info
in them. This will make so
* Ben Hyde ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
I wonder if we could do something fun.
I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various
people in the community are located on the planet.
me like :-)
+1
-Thom
-
Ben Hyde wrote:
I wonder if we could do something fun.
I think it would be fun to have a map that shows where the various
people in the community are located on the planet.
My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1]
on some web page of their. That can drive
Ben Hyde wrote:
% cvs -d cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co committers
% echo 'http://enthusiasm.cozy.org/' committers/urls.txt
% cvs ci -m 'Add Ben' committers/urls.txt
done, I added my account ID so that maybe Sam Jim can pick up that
file and use it for their committer/member overview, too
That's
Done for me too..
Mvgr,
Martin
-Original Message-
From: Steven Noels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 21:49
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: Where are we?
Ben Hyde wrote:
% cvs -d cvs.apache.org:/home/cvs co committers
% echo
My fuzzy idea is that members of the community would put ICBM tags[1]
on some web page of their. That can drive the map building. Use the
[1] http://geourl.com/
That lands me on a domain squatter. It's a cool idea, but I'm a little
apprehensive about being targeted by ICBMs...
S.
--
Steven Noels wrote:
That's about as low on the food chain as we can go 'knowledge
representation' wise. Should we climb higher, and if so ... why?
nope, KISS
Lies!
Ok so the file is in /etc/passwd style with three columns separated by
colons. The first field is your cvs.apache.org login id,
It is proposed that the community list be archived through Eyebrowse on
nagoya, and it is also proposed that the following patch be applied to the
Foundation's mailing list page on www.apache.org. A patch is included to
this effect.
PATCH BEGINS HERE:
Index: mailinglists.xml
Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles?
Does not compute.
Really... who wants to parse up some file, and have a spider visit a
bunch of sites just to get the same information that could have been
put in a file on cvs.apache.org or
According to Steven Noels:
Would that be as simple as opening up some PayPall account?
We are actually in the process of doing this.
ciao...
--
Lars Eilebrecht - Reality does not exist... yet.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
According to Steven Noels:
Would that be as simple as opening up some PayPall account?
We are actually in the process of doing this.
I don't know if anyone is interested in selling swag, but I found this:
http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/store.aspx?s=freebsdgear It is fairly easy to
setup,
I believe Ken has a shop for that stuff already (thought I found the shop
via his site at least)
Mvgr,
Martin
-Original Message-
From: O'brien, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 23:39
To: community@apache.org
Subject: RE: ASF Colocation proposal
Hmm. There was another site selling them, which had rather poor user
feedback:
http://www.copyleft.net/item.phtml?page=product_966_front.phtml
Ken's is: http://apache-server.com/store.html
Others:
http://apache.covalent.net/store/t.php
http://geekt.org/geekt/comment.cgi?newsid=1197
Hen
On
So when will there be a Jakarta t-shirt available? :)
Hen
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Erik Abele wrote:
Martin van den Bemt wrote:
I believe Ken has a shop for that stuff already (thought I found the shop
via his site at least)
http://apache-server.com/store.html
Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So when will there be a Jakarta t-shirt available? :)
We'd certainly like to see a Rivet T-shirt with this guy, (created by
lokitech.com) :-)
http://tcl.apache.org/rivet/logos/idea9.jpg
--
David N. Welton
Consulting: http://www.dedasys.com/
David N. Welton wrote:
Ceki Gülcü writes:
What do URLs have to do with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles?
Does not compute.
Really... who wants to parse up some file, and have a spider visit a
bunch of sites just to get the same information that could have been
put in a file on
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