Scrambling jar files?

2003-02-28 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
I just ran into this and found that might be worth injecting into the jar repositories discussions. http://nbbuild.netbeans.org/scrambler.html -- Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate [William of Ockham]

Re: Scrambling jar files?

2003-02-28 Thread dion
Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/02/2003 11:06:51 AM: I just ran into this and found that might be worth injecting into the jar repositories discussions. http://nbbuild.netbeans.org/scrambler.html That one is listed up @

RE: Scrambling jar files?

2003-02-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I just ran into this and found that might be worth injecting into the jar repositories discussions. http://nbbuild.netbeans.org/scrambler.html Yes. That is what I was referring to when I mentioned click-through licenses on netbeans.org, and Costin seems to be aware of it as well.

RE: Scrambling jar files?

2003-02-28 Thread dion
FWIW, Maven has been following up with Sun on a click-through approach to allowing BCL code to be distributed. Geir is the man on the ground for us. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Noel J.

RE: Scrambling jar files?

2003-02-28 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 20:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, Maven has been following up with Sun on a click-through approach to allowing BCL code to be distributed. Geir is the man on the ground for us. -- Two things to note: 1) Brian over on the maven-dev list has functioning code that

RE: Maven and community

2003-02-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dion, The reason for this challenge is simple: to demonstrate the the antipathy towards other ASF efforts is damaging not only to the ASF, but to Maven itself. 'antipathy' == 'A strong feeling of aversion or repugnance'. However you want to label it, Jason's harshly phrased statements

Re: Maven and community

2003-02-28 Thread Stephen McConnell
Just for reference - I'm somewhat surprised at the flack handed out to Jason. He and the other Maven committers are doing an out-and-out brilliant job of bringing together the next generation. My feeling is that these guys are being squeezed unnecessarily - but don't ask me why because I don't

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-28 Thread Henri Gomez
Leo Simons wrote: Hi all, (sorry for the massive crosspost up front, as this is a proposal that should in the end come from the various PMCs towards the infrastructure team I'm doing lots of CCing, just once) FYI, the JPackage project where I'm also involved, as set up a Java RPM centric

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-28 Thread Santiago Gala
Henri Gomez wrote: FYI, the JPackage project where I'm also involved, as set up a Java RPM centric distribution where you could find many (still not all) apache's java projects. http://.jpackage.org/ Hi, Henry. I'm using them and they are awful to simplify maintenance of linux rpm based

Jakarta Newsletter

2003-02-28 Thread Rob Oxspring
Hi, For those of you that don't know I'm behind the effort for a monthly(ish) newsletter from the folks at jakarta. The original aim was to help developers stay informed of whats going on in the rest of Jakarta without them having to monitor every list, each subproject would send in tidbits of

RE: Maven and community

2003-02-28 Thread dion
-Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Dion, The reason for this challenge is simple: to demonstrate the the antipathy towards other ASF efforts is damaging not only to the ASF, but to Maven itself. 'antipathy' == 'A strong feeling of aversion or repugnance'.

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-28 Thread Costin Manolache
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Seeing the interest it has raised, I tend to think think it's time to get the act together and start working on it. I'd like to propose this for incubation ASAP, so to not loose momentum. ... Codebases or part of codebases that could convole

RE: Maven and community

2003-02-28 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 02:04, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Dion, The reason for this challenge is simple: to demonstrate the the antipathy towards other ASF efforts is damaging not only to the ASF, but to Maven itself. 'antipathy' == 'A strong feeling of aversion or repugnance'.

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-28 Thread Nick Chalko
Costin Manolache wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Seeing the interest it has raised, I tend to think think it's time to get the act together and start working on it. I'd like to propose this for incubation ASAP, so to not loose momentum. ... Codebases or part of

RE: Maven and community

2003-02-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Representing Jason as all Maven developers is a leap beyond that I can't fathom. As I said, I would expect that his comments weren't reflecting Maven's as a group, and I know that they don't reflect yours. It seems you are confusing your view of Jason, which you admit is limited to a short

RE: Maven and community

2003-02-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jason, Did anyone question that you've contributed an immeasurable amount of good? I didn't. What happened was that you responded negatively to an aside about why not to put Ant and Maven under a single PMC. You talked about about not being forced to collaborate, and pulled Gump, centipede, the

RE: Maven and community

2003-02-28 Thread Costin Manolache
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Collaboration does happen, now. It's not a future waiting to happen. Is there something that's not happening that specifically needs to be looked at? That's the irony. As far as I can see, most of the build processes could converge around

RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-02-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Nick, As long as you want to start with first principles ... If we have a layout and metadata we agree on - any tool could work. If it is an ant task or a perl program or we just rsync - it doesn't matter. A somewhat standard layout is the important part.

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-02-28 Thread Nick Chalko
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Nick, As long as you want to start with first principles ... project/[subproject]/version/(jar|zip|gz|docs|liscenses) is very good. How much should be encoded in a URI, and how much in data associated with the URI? You seem to be trying to encode all of the data

ASF Repository Structure

2003-02-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Nick, My apologies for reformatting your reply, but I thought that it made sense to rename the thread, and still keep the context intact. How did you perceive my strawman to be incompatible with a filesystem only approach? If the URI for an addressable entity results in an XML file, for

Re: ASF Repository Structure

2003-02-28 Thread Nick Chalko
Noel J. Bergman wrote: snip excelent arguemetns for making a smart repositories./ The point of agreement is the format of the URI and the schema for the descriptor files, and everything is mapped from there. Then I propose the URI be /projectname/[subproject]/[version]/artifactname Which

RE: ASF Repository Structure

2003-02-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Why not just protocol://repository-path/artifact-name, where artifact name is as qualified as necessary, and is permanent? The project name, sub-project relationships, versioning, etc., could all be handled by the descriptor contents. For the smart repository approach, if you want to add

ASF repository URI syntax

2003-02-28 Thread Nick Chalko
I think in general ./ or ./index.html should return a human readable form and ./index.xml should give machine readable form of the following * / o list of projects in the repository * /project o list of subprojects o list of versions available if there is no

Re: ASF Repository Structure

2003-02-28 Thread Nick Chalko
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Why not just protocol://repository-path/artifact-name, where artifact name is as qualified as necessary, and is permanent? The project name, sub-project relationships, versioning, etc., could all be handled by the descriptor contents. So http:repo.apache.org/ant would