On 26/6/03 23:37, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pier had pretty rock solid arguments *not* to use JAMES as a MTA
and all came from the sysadm paranoia
One example would be that you run James as root in order to access the
privileged ports. And if James runs as root for the
From: Adrian Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On which platforms? And are we talking about the same thing? Are you
saying that if I do
export CATALINA_BASE=/site1; startup.sh
export CATALINA_BASE=/site2; startup.sh
export CATALINA_BASE=/site3; startup.sh
...
export
On 26/6/03 3:50, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
note that for apache 1.3.x, JNI would have been hard because of the
multi-process environment, but for apache 2.0, a JNI-based mod_java is
perfectly valid architecturarely, but nobody works on it because of this
sin syndrome.
I'm
On 27/6/03 0:43, Greg Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:32:08AM +0100, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
...
Best way of doing things? Writing a connector for the servlet container
using JNI that uses unix sockets, named pipes, or something which is
actually faster than the usual
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, David N. Welton wrote:
Date: 26 Jun 2003 14:55:02 +0200
From: David N. Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: community@apache.org
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Java + Scripting languages
Hi guys, I saw this:
http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223
The
Ask Bjoern Hansen escribió:
Dan Sugalski wrote an article about why we can't just run Perl,
Python or Ruby on the JVM or CLI:
http://www.sidhe.org/~dan/blog/archives/000151.html
This was the paper I couldn't find before. It made me think it was
interesting, if it was able to do continuations,
Well, all decent OSes... You won't find fork in stupid WindoSH...
According to market researcher OneStat.com, Windows now controls 97.46
percent of the global desktop operating system market, compared to just 1.43
percent for Apple Macintosh and 0.26 percent for Linux.
Do you have statistics on
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Greg Stein wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:32:08AM +0100, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
...
Best way of doing things? Writing a connector for the servlet container
using JNI that uses unix sockets, named pipes, or something which is
actually faster than the usual TCP socket
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 02:13:37PM -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I am a priori discouraged because I don't see IBM represented. To have
this
JSR without participation from the BSF folks seems wrong. I don't know
if
this is payback for Eclipse and the WS-I, an oversight, or what.
Stephano wrote:
And in order to do this, we must commit a few sins, one of which could
be compiling our existing code for .NET CLI
Funny you should mention that... because I'm porting the Mailet API to .NET.
The problem isn't with the API, but with the dependance on javax.mail in
particular
Don't know if Pier is subscribed to James-dev ..
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Sent: 27 June 2003 15:02
To: James Developers List
Subject: Re: WORA Considered Evil ;-)
Pier Fumagalli wrote:
All those components must run ... (for
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223
At the end, I will not be surprised if this turns out to be yet another
JSP-like political compromise between vendors, with no technological
value associated to it.
I am a priori discouraged because I don't see IBM
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Greg Stein wrote:
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:42:12PM -0700, Costin Manolache wrote:
...
Dot net is actually doing almost the same mistake as java (AFAIK)- they
support other languages, but only syntactically ( like java does with the
languages that generate java
Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
Now, if we put a JVM inside the Apache process scope, we end up with the
same problem we had with Apache 1.3, how in the world am I going to be able
to share a session between a JVM inside a multithreaded
copying the cocoon folks since we are getting pretty serious with
continuations overthere (we implement them using a modified version of
Mozilla Rhino, a javascript engine written in java)
on 6/26/03 3:15 PM Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Santiago Gala wrote:
[...]
I still
http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223
I am a priori discouraged because I don't see IBM represented. To have
this
JSR without participation from the BSF folks seems wrong. I don't know if
this is payback for Eclipse and the WS-I, an oversight, or what.
Lack of warm bodies with the right
on 6/27/03 5:58 AM Sam Ruby wrote:
Sometimes it sucks to be four years ahead of your time.
Amen.
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Hi guys,
I've just added a small file to CVS at
committers/docs/de-meeting/linuxtag2003.txt
People attending the expo/conference may just add their
name etc., so that others know who will be there and at
which days.
ciao...
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Stefano Mazzocchi escribió:
(...)
Wow, a VM with native continuations, very interesting.
Question: do you think it would be possible to compile java source code
into parrot bytecode? how would the limited Perl typing capabilities
would impact that?
The key piece is the validator. The Java VM uses
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
1) we have no access to the JVM code, we can't make it faster, even if
we wanted and knew how (java would be *so* much faster if we could
reimplement part of the standard library natively! expecially Strings!)
But you can reimplement parts of the standard library
Steve and Kenny,
There is a balance. Not all of Pier's issues may apply, but many of the
important ones do.
Frankly, I don't want to run anything at root that can avoid it. That is
just good practice.
Consider Vincenzo's anti-spam matcher. Would you want that to run as root?
I am not
I don't see Java as glue because it portrays integration with
non-Java as anathema.
It favors portability, which means that the abstractions have to be
portable. No reason why you can't have glue classes using JNI to call
things, but I would expect whatever is part of a standard distribution
Noel,
I'm sure that everyone is in favour of hardening James as much as possible.
Its just that we should approach it from a Java perspective, not a C on Unix
one. The issues are different.
Frankly, I don't want to run anything at root that can avoid
it. That is
just good practice.
Sure,
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