Re: Netiquette: Is there an issue, and can we make the ASF more welcoming?

2005-08-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 7 août 05, à 16:16, Noel J. Bergman a écrit : ... - Is there an issue? I don't think there is a general issue, but I see three points which might help: 1) Talking on lists that one doesn't know well is hard For me I feel much more comfortable on dev@cocoon.apache.org than on other

Re: Netiquette: Is there an issue, and can we make the ASF more welcoming?

2005-08-08 Thread David Crossley
Jean T. Anderson wrote: I'll post here what I've told Noel and others elsewhere. At ApacheCon Eu two men who attended the Derby BOF said they don't like to post to user lists because of the flame wars. One went further to say that he doesn't always have the time to thoroughly research the

Re: Netiquette: Is there an issue, and can we make the ASF more welcoming?

2005-08-08 Thread David Crossley
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Henning Schmiedehausen a ?crit : ...For example, there are a lot of people that tell me, when they met me in RL, that my mails sometimes sound very harsh because they often contain only a single sentence or so.. I don't think one-liners are a problem generally

Re: Netiquette: Is there an issue, and can we make the ASF more welcoming?

2005-08-08 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 8 août 05, à 14:50, David Crossley a écrit : ...However, Henning's analysis is spot on. The necessary brevity could appear as harsh to some newcomers. Perhaps a page of tips about such issues might help such people feel more comfortable, and so we are all more

Re: Netiquette: Is there an issue, and can we make the ASF more welcoming?

2005-08-08 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Jean T. Anderson wrote: ... Lately I've been adding a sincere If that page/post doesn't help, please be sure to post back to this list! This a good idea. But I think you can add more cosmetic. As is currently it may be to strong for some people. ;-) Maybe something like: If this page/post

Re: Netiquette: Is there an issue, and can we make the ASF more welcoming?

2005-08-08 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Jean T. Anderson wrote: ... Lately I've been adding a sincere If that page/post doesn't help, please be sure to post back to this list! This a good idea. But I think you can add more cosmetic. As is currently it may be to strong for some people. ;-) Maybe

Re: Netiquette: Is there an issue, and can we make the ASF more welcoming?

2005-08-08 Thread J Aaron Farr
On 8/7/05, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There has been quite a bit of discussion around the ASF, not always on open lists, to the effect that sometimes people are turned off or scared off from participation, whether in a discussion, project or the ASF as a whole. The purpose for