On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Julie MacNaught wrote:
Conclusion? Just play nice.
Right on! It's amazing how well a bit of humility, encouragement of
others, and responding to fire with ice works in online communities -
whether technical like this one, or social, or whatever.
I'm haunted, though, by
On Wednesday 20 October 2004 10:56, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
I'm not suggesting we rename
ourselves the Cute Nice Fluffy Bunnies Software Foundation.
ROTFL... From a feared native-american tribe to cuddly... :o)
My vote goes for
The Bambi Software Foundation
or
The Kitten Software Foundation
On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 22:32, Julie MacNaught wrote:
Hi,
[...]
I've been accused of being a geek, however, in my defense, I always say:
you think I'M a geek, you should meet my friends at Apache..
[...]
Wow. Define being normal by pointing at people that are even weirder.
I never thought of
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Julie MacNaught wrote:
Conclusion? Just play nice.
Right on! It's amazing how well a bit of humility, encouragement of
others, and responding to fire with ice works in online communities -
whether technical like this one, or social, or whatever.
On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 04:56, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
I'm haunted, though, by whether there's a sort of cognitive dissonance in
being nice and the Apache name. I'm not suggesting we rename
ourselves the Cute Nice Fluffy Bunnies Software Foundation. :) Just
wondering if it's something we
Henri Yandell wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Julie MacNaught wrote:
I am a big corporation's employee (IBM), not an individual contributor.
My current pet theory is that due to quotas,
Dang, so much for sensitivity and respect...
Bill
Bill Stoddard wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Julie MacNaught wrote:
I am a big corporation's employee (IBM), not an individual contributor.
My current pet theory is that due to quotas,
Dang, so much for sensitivity and respect...
Bill
Henri, your email could be interpreted
--On Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:34 PM +0200 Santiago Gala
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can separate both functions, i.e. development or patching and code
review/quality control. The linux kernel is beginning to be a good
example, where you have:
- Linus (vanilla) tree as a reference value
On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 19:21, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Tuesday 12 October 2004 21:02, Ben Hyde wrote:
Projects that: fail to
welcome new comers; fail to bring in credible new contributors ... well
they are just stupid. They will ultimately become dysfunctional and
implode.
Question;
On Wednesday 13 October 2004 16:44, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
In the end, the majority of the 99% must adjust to the 1% of idiots.
Hmmm At a 2 magnitude superiority in manpower, the majority is unable to
keep them in check, and weed them out? Is that a matter of lack of tools, or
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Wednesday 13 October 2004 16:44, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
In the end, the majority of the 99% must adjust to the 1% of idiots.
Hmmm At a 2 magnitude superiority in manpower, the majority is unable to
keep them in check, and weed them out? Is
On Oct 8, 2004, at 4:55 PM, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
Use www.bugmenot.com if you need a password.
Comments? Is there anything the community thinks we could do to
address the situation?
Brian
...http://www.sdmagazine.com/documents/sdm0411b/
yeah, i got comments.
The single most toxic
On Tuesday 12 October 2004 21:02, Ben Hyde wrote:
Projects that: fail to
welcome new comers; fail to bring in credible new contributors ... well
they are just stupid. They will ultimately become dysfunctional and
implode.
Question; Should Open Source be Open Participation?
I am sure that
--On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:21 AM +0800 Niclas Hedhman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am sure that the upper-tier of ASF would shiver at the thought that hordes
of people can gain direct access to the repositories. They/we will dust of
the same arguments of why Wiki won't work. But it does.
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 10:50:01AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
--On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:21 AM +0800 Niclas Hedhman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am sure that the upper-tier of ASF would shiver at the thought that
hordes
of people can gain direct access to the repositories. They/we
--On Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:12 AM -0700 Tim Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My version of the idea is not to let random strangers manipulate the
branch that will be released with our brand, but rather to have a
version control system that allows random strangers to commit proposed
changes
On Oct 12, 2004, at 1:21 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Tuesday 12 October 2004 21:02, Ben Hyde wrote:
Projects that: fail to
welcome new comers; fail to bring in credible new contributors ...
well
they are just stupid. They will ultimately become dysfunctional and
implode.
Question; Should Open
El mar, 12-10-2004 a las 10:50 -0700, Justin Erenkrantz escribi:
--On Wednesday, October 13, 2004 1:21 AM +0800 Niclas Hedhman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am sure that the upper-tier of ASF would shiver at the thought that hordes
of people can gain direct access to the repositories.
My version of the idea is not to let random strangers manipulate the
branch that will be released with our brand, but rather to have a
version control system that allows random strangers to commit proposed
changes with just normal version control commands, without the mental
overhead of going
On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 10:00, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Who's up for a DD game? [sound of stefano scratching ass]
On that topic: @ ApacheCon anyone? ;-)
Regards
Henning (Half-Orc, 9th level. My co-players think that
it really fits me well. ;-) )
A few random comments:
-- No doubt about it, many normal humans percieve it to be difficult to
really dive into OS groups either due to lack of professional-looking
documentation, getting used to using mailing lists, not feeling they're
geeky enough to be worthy, whatever. Overall we're still
On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 00:25, Henri Yandell wrote:
[...]
* The domination of Apple laptops at open-source conventions shows the
adoration with which FLOSS developers have greeted Apple's user interface.
In fact, I think we represent the only new market for Apple' computers
recently.
Nah.
Hi,
I don't think the article merits any sort of official response. It's
interesting reading, but once I got to the (quote) People often speak of the
FLOSS community, but that phrase implies a degree of coherence that has never
existed (end quote) assertion, I realized the article had
Yoav Shapira wrote:
Hi,
I don't think the article merits any sort of official response. It's
interesting reading, but once I got to the (quote) People often speak of the
FLOSS community, but that phrase implies a degree of coherence that has never
existed (end quote) assertion, I realized the
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
Comments? Is there anything the community thinks we could do to address
the situation?
Try to encourage sensible writing?
I mean, it'd be cool if there were more women in open source, but the
whole idea that open source should rely less on clue and stop being
about
On Saturday 09 October 2004 13:11, Ben Laurie wrote:
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
Comments? Is there anything the community thinks we could do to address
the situation?
Try to encourage sensible writing?
I mean, it'd be cool if there were more women in open source, but the
whole idea that
[Completely off-topic, but this is community@ where nothing is ever on-topic.]
--On Friday, October 8, 2004 6:26 PM -0700 Yoav Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
But you know what, on a night like tonight with the Sox moving on in the
playoffs, even an apparently bashing article like this doesn't
Henri Yandell wrote:
I'm really not very impressed with the article.
case in point?
--
Stefano.
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Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
I'm really not very impressed with the article.
case in point?
What I mean by that is, look at us, read our style in replying. We like
to be slick and sharp, and sometimes email is a form of word-based chess
playing made with quotes and (smart)
On Saturday 09 October 2004 16:00, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Imagine living in a house where teh ASF board members lived together.
[mental image of stefano running out of the house screaming]
Look at us. Yeah, us, alpha geeks!
A little flowers on the table might not be enough to get the
Hi,
I understand that I generalized the Tomcat community to the entire FLOSS one,
and that may be invalid. But I still don't think the article is that valid:
most of us have fairly strong personalities, and I think a woman with one could
(and have) joined in.
The situation might even be better
El sb, 09-10-2004 a las 06:11 +0100, Ben Laurie escribi:
Brian Behlendorf wrote:
Comments? Is there anything the community thinks we could do to address
the situation?
Try to encourage sensible writing?
I mean, it'd be cool if there were more women in open source, but the
whole idea
On 09 Oct 2004, at 10:00, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
I'm really not very impressed with the article.
case in point?
What I mean by that is, look at us, read our style in replying. We
like to be slick and sharp, and sometimes email is a form of
I'm really not very impressed with the article.
The gender issue just confuses things and they provide a perfectly
rational reason for why the gender difference exists (in the same way that
there's an age, nationality, education level, career-path bias to
open-source). The only solution is more
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