On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 02:08 PM, Costin Manolache wrote:
Are we now going to have similar oversight over the mailing lists and
archives ? If someone posts a pointer to warez or porn on one of the
lists
- are we going to have to remove it from archives ?
You wouldn't believe how much
Costin Manolache wrote:
My point was: if someone posts a mail with pointers to warez or porn or
spam - it will get through and will be archived in the mailing list
archives.
Humm, are we arguing with the stop sign here? We seem close to a
settling in on that rare and wonderful thing - a
Costin,
I see several differences between mailing list and Wiki content:
1. posting policy
If you manage your Wiki with Wiki pages in conversation mode, shouldn't you
want similar control over Wiki posting as e-mail posting?
2. representation
I do see wiki as a transcript of opinions
Now that it appears that a consensus is brewing, I'm finally posting this
message in public
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There appears to be a consensus for a Wiki per-PMC approach until some other
Wiki technology might provide some other segmentation schema for oversight.
The purpose is to
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
a solution using the current Wiki code, I imagine that it would look
something like:
http://james.apache.org/wiki/
http://jakarta.apache.org/wiki/
http://avalon.apache.org/wiki/
http://xml.apache.org/wiki
: Saturday, February 01, 2003 16:46
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: Wiki - we have a problem :)
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
a solution using the current Wiki code, I imagine that it would look
something like:
http://james.apache.org/wiki/
http
Interesting conversation.
http://everything2.com/ is another interesting example in this space.
They keep all the content associated with an author. They have a
surprisingly complex scheme for getting a feedback loop that they hope
will create quality. One thing that fascinated me about was
...some useful
patches, including one to require people to set their
preferences before they can post to the Wiki.
Very simple patch, doesn't address true authentication, but it adds another
hurdle into the process...
http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiPatches/RequireAUserName
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Costin Manolache wrote:
My point was: if someone posts a mail with pointers to warez or porn or
spam - it will get through and will be archived in the mailing list
Then it -will- be noted by the committers and the PMC in a very timely
manner; no (resonable) doubt about
What I mean here is -not- the ASF cultural thing of having things
validated by your peers; but the oversight of the type that the
ASF as a US incorperated is supposed to maintain.
specificaly of the type which gets us in real-live(tm) trouble;
warez, child-porn, list of license keys, etc.
Justin,
The wikidiffs@ list received 77 emails yesterday. That's a *lot* of
traffic for a small group to handle reliably. I certainly can't keep
up with that.
Understood. One problem is that changes aren't merged. I probably do a
half dozen minor Wiki updates before I finish with an edit.
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
- is a PMC or similar body who duly provides oversight
to any abuse.
This is a weaker oversight requirement than ensuring that information is
accurate, or that more subtle content concerns are managed.
Correct - I am after what
Are we now going to have similar oversight over the mailing lists and
archives ? If someone posts a pointer to warez or porn on one of the lists
- are we going to have to remove it from archives ?
Sorry, but I fail to see the difference between wiki and the mailing
lists. Both are open to
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Costin Manolache wrote:
Are we now going to have similar oversight over the mailing lists and
archives ? If someone posts a pointer to warez or porn on one of the lists
- are we going to have to remove it from archives ?
We have, in my opinion, sufficient oversight on
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