On 7/10/07, ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi.
I really love this project, but since (as most of us here, i imagine) i'm
only a simple student, i can't afford to buy two Neos. So i will wait 'til
october. But I would like to have some possibility to develope something in
the meantime.
If you already ordered your unit, then I suppose it will be sent
separately. If you want to cancel it and if cancelation is not possible,
you can concider to resell it once you have your hands on it.
Also, for group shipping, Im only interrested in people that can
fetch their unit in Paris, and
Well, after the shop went online we have seen the pricing - and even if we
couldn't organize a group purchase (to germany in my cause) before, it was
possible to find two other early adopters who ordered with me (or me with
them) 1 hour after the shops opening. ;)
Shipping is not cheap, but with
On Thursday 12 July 2007, ground control picked up the following
transmission from Jason Elwell:
Ulrik,
No you are not the only one. Other members of the list have fingered
Gmail as the source of the problem. It seems that any mail coming
from that domain is getting duplicated.
Not quite.
On 7/9/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Community!
Today is the day that we've all been waiting for: We can finally take
your order for the world's first freed phone.
Can we get some more detail on the shipping insurance please?
Ben
On Tuesday 10 July 2007 09:20:39 ramsesoriginal wrote:
Hi.
I really love this project, but since (as most of us here, i imagine) i'm
only a simple student, i can't afford to buy two Neos. So i will wait
'til october. But I would like to have some possibility to develope
something in the
Hey,
Today is the day that we've all been waiting for: We can finally take
your order for the world's first freed phone.
Very sweet! I can't wait to get one!
Neos are waiting in customs just outside our factory in SuZhou. Early
this week, they will start their journey to FIC America in
From the list archives on the web:
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Marco Barreno barreno at cs.berkeley.edu
Wed Jul 11 18:43:11 CEST 2007
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Now that we have a great phone to use, we could use a great channel
for communication. The vision is to communicate using the most open
channel of communication ( the Internet) using VoIP technology for
routing all mobile phone calls. Openmoko application framework can be
used to create a
Can we get some more detail on the shipping insurance please?
Maybe:
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shipping/time/service/value_added/
declared_value.html
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On 7/13/07, Nick Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/11/07, George Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that we have a great phone to use, we could use a great channel
for communication. The vision is to communicate using the most open
channel of communication ( the Internet) using VoIP
On 7/9/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Get them while they're still hot ;-)
what happened to the in car mounting kit? or can we get a
recommendation on a compatible model?
I asked the same question on Sunday July 8, the official
answer from sean was that they had problems
Reading the title of that article I first realize the big difference
between the two types of free for mobile phones... Maybe something for
that guy that made those commercials. All sorts of free (no money)
phones, listed with the contract they're bound to + not really free.
And then last but not
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 13:34 +0200, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
Hi,
Can someone provide a link to a binary tarball for the openmoko
toolchain/build environment? (similar to CodeSourcery's GNU
toolchains):
http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/arm/download.html
Something that I can simply
On Friday 13 July 2007 12:08, ramsesoriginal wrote:
On 7/13/07, Nick Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/11/07, George Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that we have a great phone to use, we could use a great channel
for communication. The vision is to communicate using the most open
On 7/13/07, vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can try mokomake file. It has target for compiling qemu and
running qemu. As for direct connection, try setting proxy variable in
shell to connect a machine behind firewalled proxy server.
FWIW, the MokoMakefile worked great for me on
A tarball would be really great, because I have several problems on my
amd64-gentoo, too.
Starting at gcc3 (gentoo uses gcc4 per default and switching to 3 sucks) to
several amd64 problems.
2007/7/13, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
On 7/13/07, vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As
Guys,
does noone remember this posting
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/006633.html
by William Lai of OpenMoko's community development department?
The phone won't be shipping before Monday Julty 16th which is probably the
reason why you haven't been billed yet.
Relax.
Bryce Leo wrote:
Now ian that's a sweet Idea but the only problem is finding a place to
buy a psp display! For 289 I can get these
http://teptronics.com/pl9phrb.html two things, just as trivially I
have two 9in diagonal screens that I can use for just about anything!
But yes, i very much see
On Jul 4, 2007, at 12:52 AM, Thomas Gstädtner wrote:
before some days Hans van der Merwe asked, if it is possible to do
group purchases (in South Africa).
Unfortunately he got no answer, so I'd like to ask again.
We can ship anywhere that UPS can ship now ;-)
I'm from germany and I think
On 7/13/07, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't have a direct (firewall-free) connection to the Internet.
You can try mokomake file. It has target for compiling qemu and
running qemu. As for direct connection, try setting proxy variable in
shell to connect a machine behind
they assigned us 7:00pm on Sunday, July 22
http://www.ubuntulive.com/cs/ubuntu/view/e_sess/14821
I have a couple of extra passes in case anyone wants to come and has
forgotten to register.
Michael
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On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 15:00 +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
On 7/13/07, vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can try mokomake file. It has target for compiling qemu and
running qemu. As for direct connection, try setting proxy variable in
shell to connect a machine behind firewalled
Thank you Sven!!
I did not see that post!
No worries now Looking forward to ship day...
--clayton
On 7/13/07, Sven Neuhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guys,
does noone remember this posting
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/006633.html
by William Lai of OpenMoko's
The latest from Nokia: $200
Being tied into a 2 year contract: $1500
*crossfade to Neo*
Knowing you're not stuck with one network: Priceless
;)
-Nick
On 7/13/07, Luit van Drongelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reading the title of that article I first realize the big difference
between the two
On 7/11/07, George Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that we have a great phone to use, we could use a great channel
for communication. The vision is to communicate using the most open
channel of communication ( the Internet) using VoIP technology for
routing all mobile phone calls. Openmoko
Hi,
Can someone provide a link to a binary tarball for the openmoko
toolchain/build environment? (similar to CodeSourcery's GNU
toolchains):
http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/arm/download.html
Something that I can simply download, extract and use it to build
packages, and test it on
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 07:19 +0200, Karsten Ensinger wrote:
Hi guys (and girl(s)),
as far as I can say from my experiences, there was NEVER a break in
delivery of message worth to mention the last days.
It also seems as if only GMail customers complain about a disruption
of operation.
I'm
as far as I can say from my experiences, there was NEVER a break in
delivery of message worth to mention the last days.
It also seems as if only GMail customers complain about a disruption
of operation.
Not just gmail customers; I had the same problem as well. According to
smtp logs from my
Hello Simon, all -
I would appreciate more external direction on UI issues as well. On
the other hand, I will just ignore it and do what I want anyways. :)
But my point is, Simon, since you happen to have experience, I want
to encourage you to edit the Lookfeel document on the wiki. I know
I
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:05:18 +0200
Sven Neuhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guys,
does noone remember this posting
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/006633.html
by William Lai of OpenMoko's community development department?
The phone won't be shipping before Monday
Found on LXer:
OpenMoko already facing difficulties?
http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/89804/index.html
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Another little voice - Harald please take some time and get better,
You are a vital cog in this machine...
Clare
On 7/13/07, Jonas Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Mikko Rauhala on 07/12/2007 04:39 PM UTC:
to, 2007-07-12 kello 04:43 -0400, Phil Schaffner kirjoitti:
Harald Welte's blog
Hello, people
Just a fast one
There are some Questions in the FAQ (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SH1_FAQ)
not being answered like:
I've ordered several days ago and received no confirmation that the order
was accepted. Is this ok? Will I still get a phone?
That many people might be
I am not seeing your emails duplicated.
-david
Christopher Heiny wrote:
On Thursday 12 July 2007, ground control picked up the following
transmission from Karsten Ensinger:
It also seems as if only GMail customers complain about a disruption
of operation.
Also disrupted for
That would be great. Anyone got contacts to TomTom? If they could provide it
within the release, it would be a good chance to make ads (eventually
toghether)
On 7/12/07, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, I guess when the author says navigational software shouldn't be a
problem
On Jul 12, 2007, at 2:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From their website:
The World's Largest Forum for Mobile Linux and Open Source
OSiM 2007 responds to the explosive growth of Open Source and Linux
integration in mobile devices. It provides the information you
require
FIC is still a corporation. I'm sure there are many other software
developers on this list that can attest that there's more to software
development than coding. I suspect it's the other stuff that is bothering
Harold.
As far as no phones shipping: we knew they wouldn't ship right away. When
Several weeks ago Sean wrote:
I totally agree with your points. Please keep in mind that this was our
first design. And that we are using an ID design that simply wasn't made
for what this project has become. It was originally designed for a
completely different usage scenario.
I just came
Hi list,
I reckon this is the right time to start thinking about local OpenMoko
groups.
This way developers can get to know each other, exchange experiences, etc.
Have a look and give some statement :-)
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Local_Groups
tim/minime
There are at least two more wishful persons in Russia (Moscow). But as I
can see the main problem in our case is to deal with Russian customs...
krakatau wrote:
Maybe it is possible to share shiping cost between several people. I
have the same issue in St-Petersburg, Russia.
On Mon, 09 Jul
Guys,
I've just been on the HMRC website
(http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true_pageLabel=pageTravel_ShowContentid=HMCE_PROD_009989propertyType=document)
and have found the following information:
ITEM |Excise Duty|Standard Duty|VAT Rate|
I agree no one should panic. But the guys at openmoko should take their blogs
more seriously and stop putting frustrations. remember alot of eyes are upon
them these days. they should put their best foot up front. (i think thats how
it goes ;)) and look more professional to be taken seriously.
On Friday 13 July 2007 17:30:36 Andy Loughran wrote:
Does this mean that for a neo1973 Base ~184GBP on delivery I'll have to pay
another 32.20GBP?
That's very much dependent on how the customs sees your Neo. Some categories
of products seem to be exempt of VAT in many countries (engineering
Not sure what the VAT rate in the UK is, but yes if the Neo gets shipped from
outside the EU, then you'll have to pay import VAT. And I would expect no
import duties as such, as mobiles, IT stuff have a rate of 0% in Germany, thus
in all EU countries.
Andreas
-- Ursprüngl. Mitteil. --
First off, I apologize for the dupes some of you are going to get from this
message.
Secondly, I'd like to know, has anyone contacted google about the duplicate
problem?
If not, I'll do it tonight, but I'd like to have more than just some people
have been reporting a problem I've seen some
I try not to name a manufacturer by name in the short clips. I have an
idea that addresses contracts. One is just a time lapse showing the
seasons across two years ending with something like, you still have one
year to go, etc. The other is a chain gang working along the highway.
Either
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 09:37:46AM -0700, thus spake Jeff Andros:
First off, I apologize for the dupes some of you are going to get from this
message.
Secondly, I'd like to know, has anyone contacted google about the duplicate
problem?
I'm working in the Gmail group this summer and I'm
On 7/13/07, Marco Barreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm working in the Gmail group this summer and I'm currently in
contact with appropriate people about this. I hope to have something
to report later today.
Thanks,
Marco
awesome, I was starting to worry that it was going to be a bunch of
On 7/13/07, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
awesome, I was starting to worry that it was going to be a bunch of people
grousing about a problem, and no one doing anything about it.
FWIW, the problem sees intermittent. For example, I haven't seen any
dups from you in this thread so far.
--
I agree no one should panic. But the guys at openmoko should take their blogs
more seriously and stop putting frustrations. remember alot of eyes are upon
them these days. they should put their best foot up front. (i think thats how
it goes ;)) and look more professional to be taken
On 7/12/07, Alexander E Genaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS - Clarification: Is FIC a publicly traded company and if so, what
is the ticker code (or a division closest to OpenMoko) and upon what
exchange is it traded?
Looks like the TSEC/TAIEX: http://203.74.228.63/t40/e_C_public.jsp?strMode=1
Hi all!
I think having a ML for translators could be very useful... even a ML
for our own language.
The community ML is rather good, but a bit high traffic for translations
purpose.
Usaully translation teams have a ML for their language, so they can
share thoughts, ideas and review the
Open source, home of the overreaction. Land of the, You can't be human!
and free as in Free to judge!
Why? Because we are a community. :-)
+++
Sorry. All the best, Harold. Have no idea *who* you are, but OpenMoko rocks!
Kick some iPhone a**. Thanks for your contributions!
Amy :)
On 7/13/07,
You'll be welcome to come here to Spain! :) By the way, as I seem to be the
only Spaniard here, do you know the meaning of 'Moko' in Spanish? It's hard
to tell people here about your great platform after they listen to its name!
It might be a marketing barrier when the phone reaches Spanish
Hi everyone,
Short version:
It seems the duplicated messages are not just a Gmail problem: mails
are also being duplicated from starband.net and possibly others as
well, so it seems the problem is likely something on the openmoko side
that only happens to cause duplicates with some sending
Blogging imo, is all about marketing, and whether it is positive or
negative, still imo, all that counts is the size of the impact. Think
of scandals, do they do any real damages to those stars? They're
still quite much in business!
Also, the fact that negative aspect of this quest for freedom
Just launched today, I figure we should be aware. Maybe we could turn
this into an opportunity to increase awareness of the neo:
http://freetheiphone.org/
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Is there anyone who is involved in hardware development and seriously believes
that the cost of an upgrade board (which necessarily will have all the stuff
like the LCD attached to it, cause they are not end-user replaceable parts)
will be any cheaper than the cost of a whole phone?
The stuff
Rod Whitby writes:
Is there anyone who is involved in hardware development and seriously
believes that the cost of an upgrade board (which necessarily will
have all the stuff like the LCD attached to it, cause they are not
end-user replaceable parts) will be any cheaper than the cost of a
whole
José
only Spaniard here, do you know the meaning of 'Moko' in Spanish? It's hard
to tell people here about your great platform after they listen to its name!
wasn't the chevrolet nova one of the last cars to be marketed by
just one name worldwide? It wasn't such a great product name for
I've added a section for UI design recommendations and guidelines.
This should help new old developers to agree on a uniformed user experience.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Application_UI_Design_Recommendations
lets all work together on filling this section.
Brad Midgley writes:
only Spaniard here, do you know the meaning of 'Moko' in Spanish? It's hard
to tell people here about your great platform after they listen to its name!
wasn't the chevrolet nova one of the last cars to be marketed by
just one name worldwide? It wasn't such a great product
Mohammed
I've added a section for UI design recommendations and guidelines.
This should help new old developers to agree on a uniformed user
experience.
I filled in a few conventions I've noticed. There's inconsistency
between some of the built-in apps so I've tried to document the
approach
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Brad Midgley writes:
only Spaniard here, do you know the meaning of 'Moko' in Spanish?
It's hard
to tell people here about your great platform after they listen to
its name!
wasn't the chevrolet nova one of the last cars to be marketed by
just one name worldwide? It wasn't
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