Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
Well were all those 'never see them' people linux users and interested in openmoko? Haha we might just all be gifted people ! :D On 6/7/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 01:30:43 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On 6 Jun 2008, at 23:19,

Shipping details

2008-06-07 Thread Simon Matthews
Hi Steve, Firstly i would like to thank you and everyone at Openmoko for being so open about the production process. As one who has been involved with the design, manufacture and sales of electronic products for many years i know how complex and frustrating it is to get product out the door, with

Re: GSoC project status: Speech Recognition facility in open moko

2008-06-07 Thread rakshat hooja
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So wouldn't it be a main problem if we change the main applications like the Dialer, the contacts etc? for example from GTK to Qtopia? other way round or anything else? AFAIK If you have all the libraries it should

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-07 Thread Rahul Joshi
if you want the :beaten to death threads - search the archives for anything i have mailed - u'll see ones about video playback performance and others Aha... and I was wondering. Kindly excuse :) i go into lots of details. Thats what everyone wants. Props! Rahul J On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:38

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Saturday 07 June 2008 00:19:27 Carsten Haitzler wrote: I.e. the problem should be solved by a faster processor with better GPU rather than challenging and and trying to redue user's expectations. Can you build container trucks smaller because then they need much less parking space?

Re: Shipping details

2008-06-07 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Simon Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, I am not Steve. Not even close (not ) Firstly i would like to thank you and everyone at Openmoko for being so open about the production process. As one who has been involved with the design, manufacture and

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-07 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:46:57PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Ken Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: quick question - would you prefer a qvga lcd (save a bit of cost) since we'e

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 06 June 2008 19:18:43 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Yes. This should be IMHO the future for GTA03 - use a better chipset rather than a worse display resolution. Full ACK. Some application I have choosen makes regular screen updates: Neo 1973 every 0.5 seconds (due

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 06 June 2008 20:07:01 Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: When it comes to GTA03, I will not buy one (because I buy the GTA02), so I will not be the target. Maybe QVGA is a good solution, or maybe it should be an option when you buy

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
How is the iPhone doing it? It has Half-VGA resolution and feels very smooth. it has a hardware-accelerated 3d chipset with full opengl drivers. and a very good chipset at that. that is why. as for half-vga. that's still HALF the pixels the freerunner/neo1973 have. *IF* we shipped the

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-07 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
When I first saw the Neo's screen I was amazed by how crisp the graphics were and the shine on the Openmoko logo looked real to me. The first thing I tried was the terminal (of course) and I was happy that the text could be zoomed, and was still readable. I am short sighted and have seen

Re: Shipping details

2008-06-07 Thread Flyin_bbb8
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Re: GSoC project status: Speech Recognition facility in open moko

2008-06-07 Thread Gilles Casse
saurabh gupta wrote: Although I had a look at sphinx but at this moment I am not very sure that how much will i reuse it since with their very little documentation, the source code is not so comprehensible. However, I am trying to get a hand on it and use its libraries wherever possible.

Re: resolution preferences??

2008-06-07 Thread Ortwin Regel
On 6/6/08, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: convince me vga is incredibly more useful than qvga. convince me you all have amazing eyesight! :) i am doing this because i am trying to listen to the community and if given a choice - choose the right way based on what you

Re: Shipping details

2008-06-07 Thread Martin Šenkeřík
no paypal, search the maillist archives, there is more information about reason On 6/7/08, Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So no paypal ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Ublox AGPS On-line impelementation

2008-06-07 Thread Joseph Reeves
The perl version is in this pdf: http://people.openmoko.org/matt_hsu/ImplementationAssistNowServerAndClient(GPS.G4-SW-05017-C).pdf Joseph 2008/6/6 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, According to previous mail in community list, there is a perl version of AGPS on-line implementation. But it

Re: Shipping details

2008-06-07 Thread Joachim Steiger
Simon Matthews wrote: What courier companies/the postal service and shipping options (express versus normal etc) will you be using to ship the phones (only UPS or others as well?) ups. Will you be offering the option of having the shipments insured? Do you know how much the insurance will

Re: GSoC project status: Speech Recognition facility in open moko

2008-06-07 Thread saurabh gupta
Thanks Gilles, It can be helpful for my project development. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: saurabh gupta wrote: Although I had a look at sphinx but at this moment I am not very sure that how much will i reuse it since with their very little

Default toolkits?

2008-06-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
There is a discussion on the local LUG list about the OpenMoko phone and the toolkits used. So far as I understand, the ETK, GTK, and Qt toolkits will be available on the phone, with ETK being the default toolkit used in the core phone UI. Could someone please clue us in and correct me if I'm

Re: Default toolkits?

2008-06-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/7 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 7 Jun 2008, at 14:06, Dotan Cohen wrote: There is a discussion on the local LUG list about the OpenMoko phone and the toolkits used. So far as I understand, the ETK, GTK, and Qt toolkits will be available on the phone, with ETK being the default

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-07 Thread Dave O'Connor
Just out of interest, why don't other countries get access to these components sooner? Why do Japanese consumers get them first? Do they pay significantly more than the rest on phones so they're a better market for manufacturers or could openmoko steal a lead here in the rest of the world? Might

Trac down?

2008-06-07 Thread Roland Häder
Hi OpenMoko team, it looks like your Trac at http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ is down? Roland -- (GNU) PGP ID: 0x4D385570 Weblog: http://blog.mxchange.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community

Is case design changing for GTA03?

2008-06-07 Thread Ron K. Jeffries
I'm almost sure I read a comment saying (in passing) that Freerunner case design will change for GTA03. Is the change strictly to accommodate the new 3.5mm plug for the headset, or are other changes being considered? thx. Ron K. Jeffries http://www.retaggr.com/Card/RonKJeffries

Re: London Groupsales

2008-06-07 Thread Hugo Mills
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:00:35PM +0100, Andy Selby wrote: I was going to sign up with the London groupbuy, but nobody has asserted themselves to be the main purchaser. HantsLUG's groupbuy is a more attractive prospect because it is organized through an existing LUG and includes notable

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:06:16 +0300 Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: actually - no. most linux developers and users i know need contacts/glasses and they can never read my screen and complain about my fonts being so small all the time (not that i will ever change. i love my small fonts!), but

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:19:08 -0700 Dave O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Just out of interest, why don't other countries get access to these components sooner? Why do Japanese consumers get them first? Do they pay significantly more than the rest on phones so they're a better market for

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:08:05 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: How is the iPhone doing it? It has Half-VGA resolution and feels very smooth. it has a hardware-accelerated 3d chipset with full opengl drivers. and a very good chipset at that. that is why. as for

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:46:28 +0200 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Friday 06 June 2008 20:07:01 Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: When it comes to GTA03, I will not buy one (because I buy the GTA02), so I will not be the

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:51:37 +0800 Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: 0n Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 12:46:57PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Ken Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

Re: Shipping details

2008-06-07 Thread Vinc Duran
Heterogeneous 10 packs? Do you know yet if I can buy 9 US phones and 1 EU phone in a single 10 pack? Thanks, Vinc On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Matthews wrote: What courier companies/the postal service and shipping options (express versus

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Federico Lorenzi
IMHO: You can drive a VGA screen at QVGA, but you can't drive a QVGA screen at VGA... Cheers, Federico On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:16 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:46:28 +0200 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Friday 06 June

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-07 Thread Marcel Wirth
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: japanese phones are all about tech specs - and that's it. well that and looking sexy (nice design/cases). usability is pretty poor. their software and ui's are atrocious mostly. but that doesn't matter because they can do the i'm cooler than you. my phone

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-07 Thread Dave O'Connor
Thanks for the response and don't take this the wrong way but it doesn't really answer my question. :) Openmoko could take these sweet spec components and do stuff with them. That would lead to increased sales for these component manufacturers. It's in their interest to make them, and hopefully

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: but there is definitely a i want as insane a dpi as i can get group here. this is for sure. the question is - is it really the majority of users. :) No it's not at all the question - other than for academic insight. If a VGA-screen isn't much more

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 5:12 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:06:16 +0300 Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: actually - no. most linux developers and users i know need contacts/glasses and they can never read my screen and complain about my

Re: Is case design changing for GTA03?

2008-06-07 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 8. Juni 2008 schrieb Ron K. Jeffries: I'm almost sure I read a comment saying (in passing) that Freerunner case design will change for GTA03. Is the change strictly to accommodate the new 3.5mm plug for the headset, or are other changes being considered? We also got a camera on

Re: Trac down?

2008-06-07 Thread Joachim Steiger
Roland Häder wrote: Hi OpenMoko team, it looks like your Trac at http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ is down? thanks for noting. fixed. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Is case design changing for GTA03?

2008-06-07 Thread rakshat hooja
We also got a camera on GTA03. cheers jOERG Any specs of the camera. Please go for good quality optics and maybe 3x optical zoom (the neo is thick enough i guess :-) rather that higher mega pixels on a cheap sensor. Except for the SE K750/800/850i series and Nokia N95 series (and some

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Lally Singh
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 5:12 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:06:16 +0300 Flyin_bbb8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: actually - no. most linux developers and users i know need

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-07 Thread Simon Matthews
The big companies making these hi-tech electronic parts are probably only interested in orders it the hundred of thousands if not millions of parts. There is less risk to them of intellectual property being stolen or parts copied having a few customers buying large quantities at low margins than