Fwiw, my take on that is @
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-tmtla/
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I was a fan of the openmoko idea even when it was announced at first.
Now when the first real device was announced I was thinking about
buying one but then I realized the situaltion with the 3D chip which I
read was a very big design mistake. At least this is what I read,
since neither read 2D
-[ Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 08:25:04AM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer ]
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-tmtla/
Interresting.
Why not post this kind of though here instead of on a blog, BTW ?
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There is also a nice feature that could be used with SMS: imagine that
the SMS is automatically shortened (eg by abbreviating words and stuff
like that) than it's compressed before being sent; I tried once and
there should be libraries that could fit the dictionary needed for
extraction + 500
Can we just disable glamo with software and use it only when profitable?
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/27/08 Mikko Rauhala wrote:
On pe, 2008-06-27 at 13:56 +0200, Lucas Bonnet wrote:
Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I
Why can't we use madwifi? I thought our wifi chips were atheros.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Crane, Matthew wrote:
But if you can plug a usb wifi stick which the kernel does support AP
mode you could then use the internal wifi as the uplink.
I'm
On 28 Jun 2008, at 03:05, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:11:06 +0100 Stroller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On 27 Jun 2008, at 19:01, Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
Can someone explain the rationale for the decision
to switch from the original GTK based OpenMoko
Thanks,
This is the most to the point explenation that I have read so far!
If I could code, I would try help you on the FSO.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Fwiw, my take on that is @
la, 2008-06-28 kello 11:31 +0200, Atilla Filiz kirjoitti:
Why can't we use madwifi? I thought our wifi chips were atheros.
All Atheros are not created equal. Madwifi is for Atheros' a5k series
softmac laptop chips. This is a 6k series hardmac embedded chip.
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Check google trends:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=Openmoko%2C++FreeRunnerctab=0geo=alldate=allsort=0
I would have expected at least a small spike for the last few days.
Maybe we should all try to actively promote the FreeRunner through a few
channels?
It's in our own interest...
y
I would like to know more about that too. Especially I would like to
know how real devices work - are they slow or not? I don't really need
3d games or anything, but i don't want my smartphone to be slow.
Also is it possible in theory to play youtube videos?
On 6/28/08, Michael Stather [EMAIL
On Saturday June 28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was thinking of asking the very same thing.
When dialing or using a calculator or sending a text message, the glamo
would only slow us down. Or am I mistaken?
Maybe it's a very stupid question (I presume if it were possible such a
trivial feat
I have no idea if it will be slow but youtube video's should be possible.
Standard youtube is 320x240 (but they are experimenting with higher
resolution) .
Maybe you would have to encode it to mpeg-4 though, don't know if it will
work through flash.
nice post about the video acceleration:
la, 2008-06-28 kello 09:43 +0200, Michael Stather kirjoitti:
At least this is what I read,
since neither read 2D or 3D acceleration is possible.
That is quite an overstatement of the problems. At least Xv and mpeg4
accelerations are possible with available software. I don't know exactly
how
On Saturday June 28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to say that I find it a bit odd running X11 on a mobile phone
- a WM wouldn't be required without it - when an alternative is
possible. In fact, as far as I can ascertain an alternative already
exists. X11 seems logical to me for
Am 28.06.2008 um 12:09 schrieb Yorick Moko:
Check google trends:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=Openmoko%2C++FreeRunnerctab=0geo=alldate=allsort=0
I would have expected at least a small spike for the last few days.
I have seen a big spike when switching to view the last 30 days.
(date=all
la, 2008-06-28 kello 12:25 +0200, Yorick Moko kirjoitti:
I have no idea if it will be slow but youtube video's should be
possible.
Yeah, their standard videos are such low resolution and quality it could
well be possible reasonably... And also:
Maybe you would have to encode it to mpeg-4
Couldn't the glamo just be driven with a highter bandwidth, or is this a
chipset limitation?
And if the chip just isn't capable of performing better, what about the
idea to have plain framebuffer access only through the processor but
include a CLPD/FPGA in the design which may be loaded on the
Ron -
I think a lot of people hate QT so much that they don't even see
anymore that GTK+ still lives and grows as before!
Yes, we brought Qt/Qtopia into Openmoko, on top of X so it can co-
exist with GTK+ and EFL.
There never has been a 'GTK+ stack'. What is a 'GTK+ stack'?
Hopefully the
I like the 'idea' of something programmable like a CPLD/FPGA, but I
suspect adding one would be too costly, they're not cheap as far as IC's go.
Ben.
Michael Stather wrote:
Couldn't the glamo just be driven with a highter bandwidth, or is this a
chipset limitation?
And if the chip just isn't
Did you download it then scp it to the gta01? If you used wget on the
gta01 you have not got the file, only the agreement webpage. The file
should be 1.9MB in size.
BTW I got the file and opkg still will not install it, reports error 4.
Regards,
Jon
Dan Staley wrote:
Hi everyone,
I
may be can use SMS control the remote NEO like send
#neo_command shutdown -h now
then the neo poweroff : )
Francesco Cat wrote:
There is also a nice feature that could be used with SMS: imagine that
the SMS is automatically shortened (eg by abbreviating words and stuff
like that) than it's
Hi.
Michael Stather schrieb:
So I wonder why this was done that way (since the older model had a much
larger bandwidth), and whether it's changed for the next release. I mean
e.g. games (3D games, or emulators) are IMHO an important part of the
functionality of such a smartphone.
Hi.
Michael Stather schrieb:
I was a fan of the openmoko idea even when it was announced at first.
Now when the first real device was announced I was thinking about
buying one but then I realized the situaltion with the 3D chip which I
read was a very big design mistake.
Just want to add
Robert Schuster schrieb:
Hi.
Michael Stather schrieb:
I was a fan of the openmoko idea even when it was announced at first.
Now when the first real device was announced I was thinking about
buying one but then I realized the situaltion with the 3D chip which I
read was a very big
-[ Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 03:07:13PM +0200, Robert Schuster ]
Just want to add this: Do you know that the Nokia Internet Tablet
devices contain a capable 3d accelerator as well? The reason it is not
used is the same as for the FreeRunner.
Sorry but IIRC the Glamo is unusable because of its
very cool : )
Robert Schuster wrote:
Hi,
Mickey writes: Openmoko is selling hardware products.
Heck, why must OpenMoko only sell mobile phones?
I like Linux-based devices that are free as in freedom. So I would
likely also buy a device from OpenMoko if it is a wireless router, a
SOHO NAS
On Saturday 28 June 2008, Robert Schuster wrote:
Hi,
Mickey writes: Openmoko is selling hardware products.
Heck, why must OpenMoko only sell mobile phones?
That's all they've sold direct so far, but it was said a long time ago that
non-phone products may be in the pipeline
I like
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer writes:
Fwiw, my take on that is @
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-tmtla/
Very good summary -- I'd really like to see the 2007.2 stack on top of
FSO...
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:43:37 +0200 Michael Stather [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
I was a fan of the openmoko idea even when it was announced at first.
Now when the first real device was announced I was thinking about
buying one but then I realized the situaltion with the 3D chip which I
read
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:41:43 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On 28 Jun 2008, at 03:05, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:11:06 +0100 Stroller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On 27 Jun 2008, at 19:01, Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
Can someone
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:25:12 +0200 Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
I have no idea if it will be slow but youtube video's should be possible.
Standard youtube is 320x240 (but they are experimenting with higher
resolution) .
Maybe you would have to encode it to mpeg-4 though, don't know
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:57:47 +0200 Michael Stather [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Couldn't the glamo just be driven with a highter bandwidth, or is this a
chipset limitation?
no it can't. we already are seeing performance far beyond anything the glamo's
designers have ever seen. in theory we
now it?s advance booking for the :-( 25.07
someone got an confirmation for the 05.07 ???
Ok. Thanks a lot.
It's not the same page when you click on the home's picture or on the
left menu ...
Now I have to see if I can change my order ...
Mike
Christian Weßel a écrit :
Just scroll down
Why not a powerful handeld graphic calculator?
2008/6/28, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Saturday 28 June 2008, Robert Schuster wrote:
Hi,
Mickey writes: Openmoko is selling hardware products.
Heck, why must OpenMoko only sell mobile phones?
That's all they've sold direct so far, but it
Hi guys,
can someone tell me (or point me) to the current status of the Qtopia X11
port?
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I think a lot of people hate QT so much that they don't even see anymore
that GTK+ still lives and grows as before!
excuse me, but why would one _hate_ qt/qtopia?
not being their toolkit of choice, ok.
not liking the visual apperance or the way one programs with it, ok.
but hate? what poor
Hi,
Sascha Peilicke schrieb:
Hi guys,
can someone tell me (or point me) to the current status of the Qtopia X11
port?
ASU is already using it :-)
See the buildhost [1] for software images for your platform (neo1973 or
Freerunner). Files are named Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11*.
Cheers,
On 6/28/08 Robert Schuster wrote:
Mickey writes: Openmoko is selling hardware products.
Heck, why must OpenMoko only sell mobile phones?
I like Linux-based devices that are free as in freedom. So I would
likely also buy a device from OpenMoko if it is a wireless router, a
SOHO NAS (think
Yorick Moko escribi:
I have no idea if it will be slow but youtube video's
should be possible.
"should be" is not the same than "it is". could anybody confirm
that? One of the biggest
problems I have running linux on a PowerPC mac it that there is not
flash player for this
plataform. I use
Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb:
On 6/28/08 Robert Schuster wrote:
Mickey writes: Openmoko is selling hardware products.
Heck, why must OpenMoko only sell mobile phones?
I like Linux-based devices that are free as in freedom. So I would
likely also buy a device from OpenMoko if it is a wireless
kenneth marken wrote:
On Saturday 28 June 2008 14:54:11 xiangfu wrote:
may be can use SMS control the remote NEO like send
#neo_command shutdown -h now
then the neo poweroff : )
that could be worriesome without some kind of id system to verify that the
sender is someone that should have
Mikko Rauhala wrote:
Youtube does provide higher quality mp4 video nowadays; you can get at
the download links from eg. keepvid.com service. So if the mp4 files
downloadable are ones that the Glamo chip can decode, that's our
solution; just code a youtube viewer that shows the mp4 versions.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Paul Wouters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Nelson Castillo wrote:
I think encrypted messages are crucial for freedom. I also think most
people don't know how easy it is for others to see what they send
through the networks. I cannot wait to see
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Neil Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday June 28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was thinking of asking the very same thing.
When dialing or using a calculator or sending a text message, the glamo
would only slow us down. Or am I mistaken?
Maybe it's a very
To me come in mind this:
http://openpandora.org/
Michael Stather wrote:
Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb:
On 6/28/08 Robert Schuster wrote:
Mickey writes: Openmoko is selling hardware products.
Heck, why must OpenMoko only sell mobile phones?
I like Linux-based devices that are free
Nothing stops anybody from approaching me with this idea to build their own
business.
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RPN please.
Actually it would be cool to do retro versions of the old HP prgrammable
calcs ( 12 etc etc)
Hehe, like donkey kong on the PC.
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Lopez de la Fuente
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008
This tread born to be dedicated to all Openmoko developers, to Steve,
Raster, Sean and all the persons that are in every day working to get
our child out!
So please, for a time, we can remove all the complains / polemics about
the develop, and to see the results we got, getting a phone very
-[ Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 08:25:42PM +0200, Michele Renda ]
To me come in mind this:
http://openpandora.org/
Last time I checked hardware was not free neither - it uses powerVR
instead of ATI, for instance.
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Perfect.
Take the existing GTK apps. make your perfect phone. I will sell you phones
At a huge discount and you can make money based on your belief and expertise
in GTK+.
You buy phones from me, you add your software, you resell. Make money off
your passion
For GTK+.
-Original
The units are already shippin to EU. So see your disty there.
The units for the US are on the docks, The USA office is closed 2,3,4 july
So first ship USA ( assuming no problems in customs) is week of 7 july.
Announcement will go out
The web shop at openmoko.com will OPEN when products
Wow,
very kool. Sean and I spent a bunch of hours yesterday talking about FSO.
Mickey is genius. I just need to wrap my head around it
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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:16 PM
To: List for
Hi,
I've had a Neo 1973 since they shipped first a while ago. Unfortunately I
never had the time to hack on it, or to play around with it sufficiently to
make the purchase worth while. So I decided to sell the device so that
someone else might use it.
I'm asking for $150 (Canadian or US).
I'm
Michele Renda ha scritto:
This tread born to be dedicated to all Openmoko developers, to Steve,
Raster, Sean and all the persons that are in every day working to get
our child out!
So please, for a time, we can remove all the complains / polemics about
the develop, and to see the results
Hmm, I'd personally like a good tor client on there.
Of course, tor also needs more relays :-P
Still, if we want real freedom, it's a step in the right direction.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Paul Wouters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Nelson Castillo wrote:
I think
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The units are already shippin to EU. So see your disty there.
The units for the US are on the docks, The USA office is closed 2,3,4 july
Who gets three days off for the fourth of July? That's ridiculous!
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Am So 29. Juni 2008 schrieb Dylan Semler:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:45 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The units are already shippin to EU. So see your disty there.
The units for the US are on the docks, The USA office is closed 2,3,4
july
Who gets three days off for the fourth
Can I place an order from Shanghai? I mean, it seems ridiculous that
I'd have to get it from the US (major round trip across the Pacific
for no reason).
thanks,
mischa
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:45 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The units are already shippin to EU. So see your disty there.
On 6/29/08 Mischa Beitz wrote:
Can I place an order from Shanghai? I mean, it seems ridiculous that
I'd have to get it from the US (major round trip across the Pacific
for no reason).
We should be able to ship from Taiwan. Harry can we? Do have any left?
-Sean
Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sadly no, as it's a hardmac chip and the proprietary firmware lacks
this feature.
Oh, no. That's really damn sad.
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Great idea
+1
Fabian Off wrote:
Hey,
maybe then we should create something like a plugin (or extension) for
openstreetmaps, so we can append many kinds of meta-data (such as radar
positions, gsm coverage, whatsoever) to existing maps... kinda points of
interest (?) :)
I think this
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