Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-14 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
FSO is using dbus system activation to start gsm0710muxd. Take a peek at the necessary scripts in our package. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 17:36:42 schrieb Cédric Berger: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 16:10, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 15:36:24 schrieb Cédric Berger: > >> By the way, isn't Qtopia rootfs ba

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 12:47:12 schrieb Cédric Berger: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:53, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now that I have came back to a "clean" install of 0808 image, I will > > retest reception of sms/calls while sleeping... > > (humm no, that is not me sleep

Re: where can i find the openmoko-contacts2 app source?

2008-08-13 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Mittwoch 13 August 2008 13:16:47 schrieb yuzhong shen: > i cann't find it in the svn repository, or it hasn't released yet, could > anybody help me? Please see svn.ohand.com. It's the 'hito' branch of their contacts application. -- :M: ___ Openmo

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-13 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Mittwoch 13 August 2008 09:27:06 schrieb Sascha Peilicke: > Le Wednesday, 13. August 2008 01:30:55 Jeremiah Flerchinger, vous avez écrit : > > On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 17:13 -0400, Helmut Tessarek wrote: > > > Alright then. What format has the addressbook? A .vcf importer cannot > > > be that hard

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

2008-08-13 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Mittwoch 13 August 2008 09:24:46 schrieb Olivier Migeot: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Jeffery Davis > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. Instead of working on multiple concurrent software distributions, why > > not try to rally everyone under one banner for a while? > > Just my cheap com

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-12 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Hi Chris, Am Montag 11 August 2008 18:39:14 schrieb C R McClenaghan: > There have now been several posts related to the successful use of > GPRS on one or more of the software platforms - OM 200*.* and FSO - > but not much discussion of how to multiplex voice and data calls. The > FSO platform thr

Re: zhone on the desktop?

2008-08-11 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Montag 11 August 2008 17:14:00 schrieb Witoslaw Koczewski: > Hi, > > I would like to learn FSO development by modifying zhone. Is there a way to > run zhone on my ubuntu desktop or do I need to test on a neo device? Should be pretty simple. We actually develop most of it on the desktop :) The

Re: FSO and GSM instability

2008-08-10 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Sonntag 10 August 2008 21:53:11 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: > lör 2008-08-09 klockan 20:31 +0200 skrev Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > > Am Samstag 09 August 2008 14:12:56 schrieb NeilBrown: > > > ogsmdINFO org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.Status: {'cid':

Re: Where is it?

2008-08-10 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Sonntag 10 August 2008 17:46:22 schrieb Scott: > I used the spiffy new installer to install xterm. The install went > without any errors. Where is it? Its not on the main page? Its > listed in the "uninstall" list of the installer? Sounds like the package is missing a proper .desktop file.

Re: FR GPRS speed

2008-08-09 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Samstag 09 August 2008 23:36:03 schrieb Jeff Davis: > What's the highest internet speed the GRPS modem on the FR is capable of? > Wikipedia gives a very broad > range for sub-EDGE technology. Please use maiing list archives. This has been discussed before. Hint: http://www.mail-archive.com/com

Re: 2008 WTF??

2008-08-09 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Samstag 09 August 2008 18:11:11 schrieb Mike Montour: > Scott wrote: > > Booting up... Could it be any more confusing?? First the OM screen, > > then the standard linux text scrolling, then the boots, then blank, then > > the boots again, then some more text, then blank again??? WTF over? > >

Re: FSO and GSM instability

2008-08-09 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Samstag 09 August 2008 14:12:56 schrieb NeilBrown: > ogsmdINFO org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.Status: {'cid': '590C', > 'strength': 0, 'provider': 'vodafone AU', 'lac': '08A2', 'registration': > 'home'} [...] That's ok. Frequent cell changes are usual. The strength 0 is a modem race co

Re: A very sad story...

2008-08-09 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
John, if you have no luck with your reseller, then contact me, I have a spare LCD panel I could send you. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FSO and GSM instability

2008-08-09 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Freitag 08 August 2008 22:47:10 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: > 2008-08-07 22:38 -0700, C R McClenaghan: > > [gprs part cut out] > > does anyone else experience gsm instability with FSO MS2? > > > > Chris > > Yes, though I have yet to do some basic testing/debugging to see when > and how I get disconn

Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?

2008-08-08 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Freitag 08 August 2008 15:49:51 schrieb Chris Wright: > 2008/8/7 Stefan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:39, Craig B. Allen wrote: > >> If zhone is going to be around for a while, how can I make a request > >> for a new feature? > > > > Well, that depends a lot on what k

Re: FSO wifi power control

2008-08-08 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Freitag 08 August 2008 13:20:30 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 22:59:46 schrieb Angus Ainslie: > |> Is there any way to control whether wifi is on or off from the > > command line > > |> in FSO. > | > | There is a WiFi object und

Re: Tmobile GPRS

2008-08-08 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Freitag 08 August 2008 00:41:48 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: > tor 2008-08-07 klockan 20:27 +0200 skrev Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > > Am Dienstag 05 August 2008 00:36:06 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: > > > Sets up ppp with IP, DNS and (replaces) default route. However, after I &

Re: FSO wifi power control

2008-08-08 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 22:59:46 schrieb Angus Ainslie: > Is there any way to control whether wifi is on or off from the command line > in FSO. There is a WiFi object under the /org/freesmartphone/Device hierarchy which exports the PowerControl API. -- :M:

Re: Tmobile GPRS

2008-08-08 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 22:47:45 schrieb Angus Ainslie: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > > Sounds like there was a parsing error in ogsmd in between. I'd be > > grat

Re: FSO adding packages

2008-08-07 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 20:46:19 schrieb Angus Ainslie: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > Yes. We have both low level device control as well as high level > > (referenc

Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?

2008-08-07 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Stefan summarized it, that's our position officially. Let me add one thing though, taking off the Openmoko hat for a second: Coming out of the Linux on iPAQ, Zaurus, Motorola EZX, ..., world, with their semi-open platforms and lack of integration everywhere, I see a lot of unused potential bo

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 09:44:42 schrieb Dale Maggee: > SIDs for a ringtone? > . > . > . > *THAT'S* > . > . > . > *AWESOME*! > . > . > . > > /me adds this to the list of things you can't do on any other phone... :) This may be insane to a lot of people, but being forced into WAV or MP3 has

Re: FSO ringtone

2008-08-07 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 08:51:52 schrieb Matt Joyce: > I don't mean to be overly critical, the process you've described is > trivial enough, and thank you for sharing, but why is is designed like > this? Resources. I have only four people working on whole FSO and I prefer to concentrate on t

Re: FSO adding packages

2008-08-07 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
> are there any other packages, that can be installed in FSO or is all there > is in openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080729-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary You should be able to install more or less everything from any OM feed. -- :M: ___ Openmoko commu

Re: FSO adding packages

2008-08-07 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Mittwoch 06 August 2008 15:45:44 schrieb Eildert Groeneveld: > are there any other packages, that can be installed in FSO or is all there > is in openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20080729-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary > ? > > Further: gps does not seem to be working . Is there a was to switch off/o

Re: Tmobile GPRS

2008-08-07 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Dienstag 05 August 2008 00:36:06 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: > Sets up ppp with IP, DNS and (replaces) default route. However, after I > disconnect (using mdbus PDP.DeactivateContext) zhone reports that > there's no network signal - the signal strength bar is empty (black). > > /org/freesmartphon

Re: /framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02 empty?

2008-08-07 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Mittwoch 06 August 2008 11:00:41 schrieb Eildert Groeneveld: > After trying FSO and installing distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk > > I did a opkg update and upgrade, without any effect. > > When looking at /framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02 : no wonder, it is > empty. > > Will there b

Re: UTF-8 in terminal (FSO)

2008-08-05 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Dienstag 05 August 2008 16:22:19 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: > I'd like to use UTF-8 in the terminal (so that I can reuse the screen > holding my irssi session). Has anyone got this to work? Can you tell me what exactly goes wrong? Please open a ticket @ trac.freesmartphone.org. Thanks, :M:

Re: Testing for audio playback

2008-08-04 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Montag 04 August 2008 20:07:56 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Am Montag 04 August 2008 17:18:50 schrieb Dylan Reilly: > |> I do not want to test if the sound is working but if audio is > |> currently being processed by the card. > | > | This is only possible

Re: Testing for audio playback

2008-08-04 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Montag 04 August 2008 17:18:50 schrieb Dylan Reilly: > I do not want to test if the sound is working but if audio is > currently being processed by the card. This is only possible if you are using an audio daemon that supports something like that (e.g. pulseaudio) or if you are using a resourc

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 13:20:34 schrieb Learning It: > It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm Do you have source for the firmware of your bluetooth chipset, your GPS chipset, your WLAN chipset, your printer, your modem? GSM is a closed market, there is only a handf

Re: FSO: recommendations for media player?

2008-08-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 04:57:32 schrieb Craig B. Allen: > Is there a media player that works reasonably well on FSO? > > I tried the one from ASU but it is unusable. > > Thanks. Give openmoko-mediaplayer2 a try. You need to install the Gtk+ theme openmoko-standard-theme-vga though to see all t

Re: FSO: how to disable zhone screen locking?

2008-08-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 00:57:01 schrieb Craig B. Allen: > I've been using FSO milestone 2 and liking it. > > Is there a setting to disable the zhone screen locker? If I want to > lock I can just press the Aux button. You can specify the timeouts in seconds /etc/frameworkd.conf, e.g.: [idlenot

Re: FSO: how to have full qwerty be default keyboard?

2008-08-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 00:59:59 schrieb Craig B. Allen: > Is there any way to set the [excellent] full qwerty layout as the default? Raster? -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/l

Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2

2008-08-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Samstag 02 August 2008 23:13:41 schrieb C R McClenaghan: > I've been able to hack together the necessary ppp scripts to get GPRS > working on FSO Milestone 2 release. This is for a Freerunner, if it > matters. Hmm, d'oh. Why was that needed? FSO already works w/ GPRS here. Did you try the PDP

Re: Where is FSO Milestone 2 for FreeRunner

2008-07-31 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Donnerstag 31 Juli 2008 18:50:01 schrieb Brian Wilson: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Andreas Bogk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maciej Piechotka schrieb: > >> 1. On http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/ there is no > >> jffs2 image for FreeRunner. Is there any? > > > > There'

Re: Where is FSO Milestone 2 for FreeRunner

2008-07-31 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Mittwoch 30 Juli 2008 23:08:28 schrieb Maciej Piechotka: > 1. On http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone2/ there is no jffs2 > image for FreeRunner. Is there any? Take the one with gta02 in the name. > 2. Can I expect that I'll be notified by system if I'll recive an SMS or I > need

Re: numptyphysics ipk

2008-07-30 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Mittwoch 30 Juli 2008 16:06:33 schrieb Michael Kluge: > Am Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2008 16:01:02 schrieb Jay Vaughan: > > btw, can you put the source up somewhere, modified for the freerunner? > > Sure. I put everything I changed (including my first try for the bb recipe) > into this tgz: > > http://

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 18:19:32 schrieb rakshat hooja: > > Please see Daniel Willmann's announcement for more details. > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > > > :M: > > Thanks for the reply and my apologies if I mis-understood something/ got > the facts wrong . I will wait for Daniel Willmann's announcement

Re: GPS application (was: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld)

2008-07-29 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Dienstag 29 Juli 2008 15:28:56 schrieb rakshat hooja: > > Moreover the '800 pound gorilla' OM is developing its own > > gps software and I'm not spending my energy competing with it. > > > > OM2007.2 is there, it works and I recommend everybody to develop for it. > > > > Best regards, > > Marcus

Re: ANNOUNCE: Software equalizer for openmoko

2008-07-23 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Mittwoch 23 Juli 2008 09:11:20 schrieb Russell Sears: > I've modified gst-plugin-equalizer to use fixed-point arithmetic. This > means that it's (barely) fast enough to provide bass, midrange and > treble control for ogg files played back via alsa. > > Here's a link to binaries (compiled for th

Re: g_ether as module

2008-07-20 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Fwiw, it might still be desirable to move g_ether to a module, since then we can switch to other modes (storage) at runtime. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Turning off the "tap" sound?

2008-07-16 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Mittwoch 16 Juli 2008 10:07:01 schrieb Dirk Bergstrom: > Back in June there was a thread about turning off the tap/click feedback > > when you touch the screen. Towards the end Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > > *) I still like my tap sound. > > *) Almost all p

Re: In the press

2008-07-11 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Freitag 11 Juli 2008 08:27:36 schrieb Anthony Russello: > Speaking as someone who is trying to get the whole build environment up and > running for the first time, I would say it is a very accurate statement. > > Is there any good step by step how to guide on building everything from > scratch,

Re: T-Mobile with ASU on GTA01?

2008-07-09 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Mittwoch 09 Juli 2008 10:23:51 schrieb Marcus Bauer: > This is another hardware problem which is shared with the Neo 1973 and > thus known since a year. The answer by Dr. Michael Lauer was "Guys, this > is a Heisenbug. We pray that it does not occur too often in the field.". > > That is a very i

Re: External Cell Antenna

2008-07-08 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Dienstag 08 Juli 2008 15:49:08 schrieb Scott Derrick: > I was hoping the external ant port on the FreeRunner was for the cell > modem and was disappointed to find out it was for the GPS. Look again... there are two ports for external antennas. :M: _

Re: Need screenshots of ASU, FSO

2008-07-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Freitag 04 Juli 2008 05:22:48 schrieb Michael Shiloh: > Can someone point me at any screenshots of ASU and FSO? Only some very early ones @ http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=6 It has slightly changed since then. I'll cook some when I'm back from my 3-day vacation which starts now. Se

Re: My word on GPRS

2008-07-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Freitag 04 Juli 2008 00:20:07 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > Am Donnerstag 03 Juli 2008 23:02:07 schrieb Clinton Ebadi: > > "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > b) If you want to receive calls, the connection ne

Re: My word on GPRS (was: How Slow Is Fast?)

2008-07-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Donnerstag 03 Juli 2008 22:55:48 schrieb Shawn Rutledge: > This is all the same on both the original Neo1973 and the Freerunner, > right? > > Is the FSO image OK for doing GPRS? milestone1 did not contain any gprs features. milestone2 was not supposed to have, but since people have approached

Re: My word on GPRS

2008-07-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Donnerstag 03 Juli 2008 23:02:07 schrieb Clinton Ebadi: > "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > b) If you want to receive calls, the connection needs to be idle. You can > > safely have an activated context (i.e. i was able to log in

My word on GPRS (was: How Slow Is Fast?)

2008-07-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Donnerstag 03 Juli 2008 08:21:50 schrieb Knight Walker: > Anyone who has paid attention to this mailing list over the last few > months has seen the "It doesn't have 3G, it's worthless" messages about > the FreeRunner. For me (And many, many others) having a fast, > power-hungry wireless pipe to

Re: 21h of battery live with FSO on GTA01

2008-07-02 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Donnerstag 03 Juli 2008 00:31:21 schrieb Tim Knapp: > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 00:19 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > > Thanks for the experiment, Marc! > > > > Most of the honor is due our kernel wizards extraordinaire, of course. > > > > With

Re: 21h of battery live with FSO on GTA01

2008-07-02 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Thanks for the experiment, Marc! Most of the honor is due our kernel wizards extraordinaire, of course. With the recently posted NO_IDLE_HZ support and (perhaps) some of the cpufreq patches, I'd expect even more. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailin

Re: Frerunner fax capability

2008-07-02 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Mittwoch 02 Juli 2008 11:33:18 schrieb Leonti Bielski: > Is freerunner capable of sending and receiving faxes? Out of the box, no. This is just a software limitation that could be fixed. > Does the gsm > chip has to have fax capability or is it just the software? Yes, TI-Calypso is a FAX cla

Re: GTK on FSO (was: Community Initiative GTK)

2008-07-01 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
To support that, the next step forward would be someone taking the wheel and creating a project @ projects.openmoko.org, moving/copying all relevant sources from Om SVN and OHand SVN into this project, then handing out accounts for all interested people. Then you can move quickly. -- :M: ___

Re: More HW from OpenMoko

2008-06-29 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Am Sonntag 29 Juni 2008 14:05:45 schrieb Jay Vaughan: > openmoko hardware? make a synthesizer platform. yes please, i'll > take 2,000, thanks. FULL ACK. That has so much potential. I'd love to be working on that. (after completing the framework of course) -- :M: __

Re: rationale for ASU (and change from GTK to Qt)

2008-06-27 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Fwiw, my take on that is @ http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/06/28/gtk-asu-fso-tmtla/ Cheers, -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Click Feedback?

2008-06-11 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 19:08:48 Esben Stien wrote: > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If we were to get rid of it, we could ditch pulseaudio and go > > directly to alsa. > > You know you should go JACK right?. Going directly to alsa

Re: Click Feedback?

2008-06-11 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 12:25:11 Lorn Potter wrote: > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > > On Wednesday 11 June 2008 02:39:08 Lorn Potter wrote: > >> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > >>> Ok, a first summary: > >>> > >>> *)

Re: Sillyness: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price

2008-06-11 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Thanks for this enlightening post! I'd wish this thread could fade now... :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Click Feedback?

2008-06-11 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 02:39:08 Lorn Potter wrote: > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > > Ok, a first summary: > > > > *) I still like my tap sound. > > *) Almost all people do not want the tap sound. > > *) All people do care about getting event sounds

Re: Click Feedback?

2008-06-10 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Ok, a first summary: *) I still like my tap sound. *) Almost all people do not want the tap sound. *) All people do care about getting event sounds while they're playing something (needs help from a sound daemon or touching every application) *) I was wrong about the real meaning of PA deprecatin

Re: Click Feedback?

2008-06-10 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Tuesday 10 June 2008 19:29:26 Asheesh Laroia wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > we have been shipping pulseaudio (which is quite a CPU hog on embedded > > systems) on our rootfs for quite a while now. The main re

Re: No 3G for GTA03, 2G/EDGE only?

2008-06-10 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Tuesday 10 June 2008 13:46:59 Justyn Butler wrote: > 2008/6/10 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > i'd love a better cpu - better memory bus and much more. right now the > > only thing we have is gta03 - same cpu as freerunner etc etc. just > > different gsm subsystem (2g/edg

Click Feedback?

2008-06-10 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Hi guys, we have been shipping pulseaudio (which is quite a CPU hog on embedded systems) on our rootfs for quite a while now. The main reason not to use alsa directly was because of mixing, since alsa dmix absolutely does not cut it. However just recently I ponder whether I should remove pulsea

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Friday 06 June 2008 20:07:01 Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > Am Fr 6. Juni 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: > > When it comes to GTA03, I will not buy one (because I buy the GTA02), > > so I will not be the target. Maybe QVGA is a good solution, or maybe it > > should be an option when you b

Re: QVGA V/s VGA for GTA03 (was something about yummy CPU-GPU combos!)

2008-06-07 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Friday 06 June 2008 19:18:43 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Yes. This should be IMHO the future for GTA03 - use a better chipset > rather than a worse display resolution. Full ACK. > Some application I have choosen makes regular screen updates: > > Neo 1973 every 0.5 seconds (d

Re: Illume / ASU on GTA01 - Video

2008-06-06 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Friday 06 June 2008 18:21:07 Rahul Joshi wrote: > I cannot really argue now that you say you have both and see it upfront :( > It would be really nice if you can briefly educate as to why this is > happening. The question is: What is making it 'not possible' to use the > extra CPU speed in 02. I

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

2008-06-05 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Thursday 05 June 2008 23:14:41 Stroller wrote: > On 5 Jun 2008, at 18:46, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > > On Thursday 05 June 2008 18:04:32 Stroller wrote: > >> On 5 Jun 2008, at 15:38, Ron K. Jeffries wrote: > >>> Can the revised case for GTA03 *pl

Re: Yummy new CPU/GPU combo

2008-06-05 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Thursday 05 June 2008 18:05:47 Mark wrote: > Robert Schuster theBohemian at gmx.net wrote on Tue Jun 3 18:10:18 CEST > 2008 > > >Hi. > > > >flexd schrieb: > >> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) skrev: > >>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:12:30 -0400 "Lally Singh" >>> gmail.com> babbled: > >>> > >>> the d

Re: GTA03 case should incorporate stylus holder

2008-06-05 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Thursday 05 June 2008 18:04:32 Stroller wrote: > On 5 Jun 2008, at 15:38, Ron K. Jeffries wrote: > > Can the revised case for GTA03 *please* be designed > > to hold a stylus? > > Nooo! > > Stylii are EVIL! > > If I can't operate an app with my fingers, then there's no place for > that app on

Re: Which gsmd will be used in future openmoko?

2008-06-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Tuesday 03 June 2008 12:51:04 Bin Chen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By the way, this would be more suitable on openmoko-devel in my > > opinion... > > > > On Tuesday 03 Jun

Re: Which gsmd will be used in future openmoko?

2008-06-03 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
By the way, this would be more suitable on openmoko-devel in my opinion... On Tuesday 03 June 2008 03:35:39 Bin Chen wrote: > As discussed before, seems there is 3 gsmd outstanding... Actually, it's worse. We have 5 options :) > gsmd, gsmd2, ophoned Qtopia, pygsmd > Which one is going to be th

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Monday 02 June 2008 16:45:19 Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > > On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: > > > I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition > > > has been pro

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Monday 02 June 2008 15:31:57 Bin Chen wrote: > >> > 1.) Disable sending unsolicited responses between commands. There's a > >> > 07.07 command to control that. > >> > > >> > 2.) Allow sending unsolicited responses at all times (this is better > >> > for latency) and dedicate an own GSM channel f

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Monday 02 June 2008 15:11:17 Bin Chen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: > >> I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a cond

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: > I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition > has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time > of the response, another unsolicited command sent to the AP and the > name is the same: > > AT+CREG? > > +

Re: new iphone

2008-06-02 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Monday 02 June 2008 01:21:03 Christian Benke wrote: > So who of you is thinking about buying the new iphone instead of an > openmoko in case the technical specs really improve(3G, better > resolution)? > I'd love to have a open smartphone, but there are so many compromises > with the openmoko pr

Re: Linux PDA with wifi?

2008-06-01 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Sunday 01 June 2008 00:39:00 Mike wrote: > If I wanted a PDA the runs linux and has wifi, and gets good battery > life, any suggestions? Sharp SL-6000 (watch out, there are models without any connectivity, one with wifi, and one with bluetooth _and_ wifi). :M: ___

Re: gsmd question

2008-06-01 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Saturday 31 May 2008 04:49:04 Tick wrote: > Hi Mickey, > Though I was assigned to do other stuff for months, I think gsmd > will wait for responses. Yes, this is correct, you did a whole lot of good fixes to it. I was merely indicating the original approach. Sorry, if that was unclear. :M

Re: gsmd question

2008-06-01 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Saturday 31 May 2008 01:43:48 Bin Chen wrote: > Whats the new design? Send AT CMD one at a time and wait the OK or > ERROR for this command? Yes. A new commands will only be sent once we received a confirmation (whatsoever) from the modem -- with the exception of a sending a cancelling charac

Re: gsmd question

2008-05-30 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Bin Chen: > I am a mobile phone developer and I am looking at the GSMd application > on OpenMoko. Seems all the AT command are sent to UART without waiting > the OK or ERROR response. > Because the intrinsic of AT command, if you don't wait for the > response of OK or ERROR, but send successive (qu

Re: OFT Status Update 2008.5.1

2008-05-25 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Sunday 25 May 2008 14:55:01 Justyn Butler wrote: > 2008/5/23 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > * LinuxTag starts in 5 days, I wanted to have a first framework-testing > > image ready by then, but it looks like we won't make it since a) I >

Re: Problems building pth

2008-05-22 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Thursday 22 May 2008 09:35:51 Tom Cooksey wrote: > Hiya, > > I have been having problems with pth for some time (at least a month). I've > held off posting, hoping it would get fixed before I needed a build. Sadly, > I need a build for next week and it is still failing with: > > pth_mctx.c:476:2

Re: Standardizing data store across toolkits (SMS, PIM data, playlist, etc)

2008-05-21 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 12:04:40 Samuel Melrose wrote: > Sorry to stick my nose in on this, especially if I'm missing something. > But do you guys have anything decided about this, and what it is all > going to be stored on? May I suggest using SQLite for the data > storage? It is very lightweight

Re: GTA03, GTA04? (was: Questions about Freerunner: Phone Usability, Battery Life, Shipping Date)

2008-05-11 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Sunday 11 May 2008 14:01:17 Martin Bernreuther wrote: > device: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/HXD8 This cat is long out of the box. It's the Dash Express device. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openm

Re: Request for stable, automated build process

2008-05-02 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
This is all good and well, however there's one inherently problematic issue to consider here. Continuous integration is very good and very possible (and we need and will to use it to improve quality), however where it really shines is, when the complete stack is under your control. Unfortunatel

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-05-01 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Fwiw, I agree with most community reviews that the table contrast is a bit too high now. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Will the Neo FreeRunner have a hold switch?

2008-04-28 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Monday 28 April 2008 09:37:14 robin paulson wrote: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:58:17 +0700 Alexander Frøyseth > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > >> Hey all > >> I just wonder if the Neo will have a hold switch. > >> A switch that locks the screen. > >

Re: Thoughts about calls not taken

2008-04-23 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Wednesday 23 April 2008 23:20:02 Stefan Misch wrote: > But the second could be handled by an answering machine right on the phone. > The calling person will be charged anyway. The message would be something > along the lines: "I'm sorry, but I can't take your call right now. Please > leave a me

Re: 99 vs RED (or was it PINK) Phone cases

2008-04-21 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Monday 21 April 2008 17:45:06 steve wrote: > I want a software switch that says "unLEDed" so I can turn blinking lights > off on any app if I so choose. Agreed. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openm

Re: Do we REALLY need a phone?

2008-04-20 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Well, no matter whether it's dying out or not; while I tend to agree that it actually is; I'm also sure it will still be ubiquitous for probably the better part of another decade. Plenty of time and market share available to manufacture and sell people the best open GSM phones :) :M:

Re: "Getting Things Done" with Openmoko

2008-04-19 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Saturday 19 April 2008 20:00:16 Hans L wrote: > I've been reading a book lately called Getting Things Done(henceforth > abbreviated as GTD) which basically proposes a strategy for > organizing/managing your work and life to be more productive with less > stress. Instead of me attempting to expl

Terminology (was: Charging Neo Freerunner via USB port)

2008-04-19 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
Guys, you really need to set the terminology straight here otherwise we spread FUD. Feature phones only differ between talk time and standby time. For us, it's a bit more complicated, since we have more modes. Can we agree on the following: usage time = CPU is powered on, lots of peripherals ha

Re: SIM Toolkit (STK) in openmoko? (was Re: "home zone" functionality)

2008-04-19 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Saturday 19 April 2008 01:26:59 Kiro Zimmer wrote: > resulting from the question how the "home zome" functionality works, now > is clear that all newer phones use the SIM toolkit (STK) to display the > "house" on the phone. It seems to me, the AT+CRSM command was never the > official way to get

Re: Qtopia on Neo FreeRunner?

2008-04-16 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 20:53:13 Steven ** wrote: > I think you've got that a little backwards. You should be asking the > Qtopia people if they plan to support the Freerunner. I'm pretty > certain their answer will be yes, since it already works for GTA01 and > probably isn't too much effort

Re: openmoko roadmap

2008-04-16 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 20:20:44 Peter Abplanalp wrote: > with the release of the freerunner coming up, i'm wondering about the > roadmap and future for openmoko and additional phones. i'm an advanced > linux user but have no experience with openmoko or the cell phone platform > and thus i'm wo

Re: Wish list for future Freerunner

2008-04-12 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Saturday 12 April 2008 18:46:16 Ron K. Jeffries wrote: > Next significant iteration of Freerunner > should include light sensor. Actually I have yet to see a device where a light sensor does not get in the way and eventually annoying a lot. This seems very hard to get right (both on the older

Re: accelerometer thought

2008-04-11 Thread Michael &#x27;Mickey&#x27; Lauer
On Friday 11 April 2008 03:12:45 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > It occurred to me as I was thinking about use cases that a setting in > which the phone would be on vibrate while vertical (as in clipped to > my belt) and ring when horizontal (as in lying on a table) would suit > my typical use about 99% of t

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