I tried this out. I can build the sample, but then what do I do? The
instructions talk about making an ipkg and scp-ing it to my Neo. But
I don't have a Neo yet... Can I test an app without the hardware?
-Steven
On Dec 4, 2007 12:07 PM, John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
Looks like AT&T has better 1900 coverage in that area.
http://www.gsmworld.com/cgi-bin/ni_map.pl?z=3&x=16&y=11&cc=us&net=be
Of course, you should be able to makes calls with both networks just
fine since they usually have free roaming.
-Steven
On Dec 10, 2007 10:47 AM,
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=940&num=1
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>
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I ride bike trials... so it could interest me, and the problem about not loking
a wheel doesn't exist ;)
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It could be a 3D code...
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But the GTA02 is 400 MHz.
I've got a 650 MHz laptop at home that runs Windows XP just fine.
That's over 7 years old. I think the 400 MHz processor could handle a
lot of the simple apps I'd want while on the move. I plan to use the
GTA02 much as Erland describes (minus the lens
elerometer (motion
sensor) • leather casing • AC adapter included"
I think the GTA02 would handle that just fine. The only thing it's
missing is the "squeeze sensor".
-Steven
On 11/6/07, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would it be possible to run the Ch
Great news !!!
I am e17 user for some years ago after DR16 user so I know you was specialized
in embedded systems :)
OpenMoko is a kind of a logical way for you :)
great welcome and see you soon :)
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ance of issues being
found after it's been delivered. We don't want that. So, let's all just be
a little patient here.
-Steven
On 10/24/07, Andreas Utterberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanx...
>
> Thats the post i have been waiting on
>
> /Andreas
>
&
You're new here, so we'll forgive you. ;-) But moko (Openmoko) is free. I
assume you're talking about the Neo1973. We don't want to confuse those.
-Steven
On 10/16/07, Thufir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm very impressed with the volume of this group!
They're not available to anyone yet.
-Steven
On 10/15/07, Francesco Pistillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> In my work group we need two phones GTA02v3. They say in the wiki that it
> can be available in october to qualified developers.
> How is the way to be "clas
Welcome.
You'll find a lot of information on the Wiki.
It doesn't have actually prices, but
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SH1_FAQ#How_much_does_it_cost_to_ship_to_.3Fhas
your answer.
-Steven
On 10/9/07, Kevin Zuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear community,
&g
Is it just me, or does that "TOP SECRET" device look a LOT like an iPhone?
Maybe they're doing away with the rounded corners that some people here
despised.
-Steven
On 10/5/07, Krzysiek Bielicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>
ote controller."
> I don't quite see the necessity in running you tv with your cellphone
It's not about necessity! It's about freedom. Controlling my MythTV server
is one of the projects I have planned for my Neo. Just because you have no
use for it does
aging distribution releases.
>
> He'll be around distro-devel@ more than the rest of us. Definitely feel
> free to pick his brain if you need help.
>
> -Sean
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I've purchased are games. This applies to both Windows and Linux. I'm
probably not your target market, but you asked. :-P
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:48:21 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 25 September 2007 14:23:24 Steven Le Roux wrote:
>
>> Ok, I am not a developper, but, I think the accelorometer has the goal
> to
>> provide a good video rendering.
>
> N
t I know of (please
> correct me if I'm wrong) have some kind of framebuffer environment in
> which you can directly draw stuff on screen with little overhead.
>
> Dani
Ok, I am not a developper, but, I think the accelorometer has the goal t
r (josm)
I have to verify
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ot. But they can be had for pretty
cheap. You'll find a lot targeted for the iPod, but you can probably find
others that may be cheaper (like
http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-3/qid=1189541560/ref=sr_1_3/602-0392629-9428653?ie=UTF8&asin=B000HZV67Y).
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On 8/25/07, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It would be nice to have some information on this.
>
> Is it still plausible that if everything falls right, GTA02 can be
> produced in volume, in time for purchased un
us, a forum is the default way to
communicate with a group of people.
I've accepted that the core developers will only use the mailing list. But
it disturbs me that you are so willing to dismiss people who prefer forums
as some how not worthy or capable of contributing to the project.
Are there no companies that make USB FM receivers? Seems like that would be
an easy fix, right?
I got a Sansa e140 as a prize a little while ago. It has an FM receiver. I
was thinking of breaking the thing open and trying to steal the receiver to
put in my Neo. Think that's workable?
-S
le. Maybe more RAM and faster
HDs makes the difference?
-Steven
On 8/16/07, Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thursday 16 August 2007, ramsesoriginal wrote:
> > He's using mokomakefile (he says it), and i experienced similar issues
> on
> > my P4 2.8GHZ
The drivers would be the issue. We need open drivers. How supportive of
open source driver development is Toshiba? I'm guessing not very. But it
would be nice if they were...
-Steven
On 8/13/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 13 Aug 2007, at 19:08
hey aren't expecting too much of a delay
for GTA02!
-Steven
On 8/9/07, Swanepoel, Gareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Have you guys seen this interview with Sean :
>
>
> http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/080207-portrait-of-a-linux-iphone-killer.html
>
> It's
I'm not sure if anyone has setup the build environment for Windows. But
there is a pre-built Win32 binary for OpenMoko under QEMU:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU#Pre-built_binaries
-Steven
On 8/3/07, Tim Milliken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am lookin
Eric's VMWare image is available for download at:
http://openmoko.montgoss.com/
This is a hosted site that has a monthly bandwidth limit, so please only
download if you really need it. If we exceed the monthly bandwidth, I'll
have to remove the file.
-Steven
On 8/7/07, Eric Heinema
g phones manufactured. It is
dealing with all the orders and status requests they are receiving. No news
is good news!
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long as the OS is still working (which it would
seem to be nearly identical to current OS), they'd push it out the door.
They may not be pushing it to the wider market, but I'm sure they'll have it
for sale directly. I mean, the current version doesn't reliably make phone
calls
This one-button-at-a-time is not an uncommon to existing phones. Many phone
keypads are implemented in such a way that they do not register multiple key
presses at the same time. For instance, when playing the "Asphalt Urban GT
3D", a Java game, on my A707, I cannot both accelerate and turn at th
Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There is one possible issue. The "moko-gmane" users would not want to receive
> a copy of all messages to the mailing lists. I know you can post messages
> without being subscribed, but the messages have to be approved. I don'
all messages posted through the web interface would actually come
from the server? But the server would have to somehow make the email appear to
come from the actual user so that it appears correct to the mailing list users.
How do we resolve this?
Are there any objections to this idea? Anythi
download all your messages via POP."
I use Gmail. Accept it. Now, if you had a Greasemonkey script that made
Gmail thread the messages, that would be acceptable.
Thank you,
-Steven
On 7/25/07, vivek khurana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/25/07, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
th 5-50 responses every day).
The result is that I delete entire threads based on the subject. I will
probably miss valuable information that might have even been relevant to me
because of this. Any ideas on how to reduce the traffic or make it more
relevant?
-Steven
On 7/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] &l
I think this could be one of the apps that really turns on
the mass market
On 7/24/07, Steven Milburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Cingular/AT&T doesn't seem to have any problem with letting users make
> their own ring tones. On my Samsung SGH-A707, I can select any MP3
Kyle,
This is probably a crazy idea that if I think long enough about I'd realize
won't work. But, instead, I'll just put it out there :)
It seems easy enough for the forum and list to connect in one direction, on
a user-by-user basis. I assume your forum will have the ability to email
registe
Cingular/AT&T doesn't seem to have any problem with letting users make their
own ring tones. On my Samsung SGH-A707, I can select any MP3 file under 1MB
as a ring tone. I have a couple on my phone that I edited with GarageBand
to select a small enough clip and then downloaded to my phone.
--Ste
orums.
-Steven
On 7/19/07, Andy Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Have you tried the irc channel #openmoko on irc.freenode.net ?
Andy
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Is this page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications enough of a roadmap?
-Steven
On 7/15/07, Gilles Casse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello,
Just wondering if a roadmap exists for OpenMoko.
If not yet, could consensus emerge regarding the wished features in the
forthcoming public r
o buy both the v1 and v2 phones,
but wifi access really expands the usage scenarios for me. (I'm thinking of
all the ways I would use the Neo1973 while at home)
-Steven
On 7/15/07, Nick Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/15/07, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. I'm
FIC is still a corporation. I'm sure there are many other software
developers on this list that can attest that there's more to software
development than coding. I suspect it's the other stuff that is bothering
Harold.
As far as no phones shipping: we knew they wouldn't ship right away. When
ase 2 ready
by October.
-Steven
On 7/10/07, Jonathan Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Given what has been said about the GTA02 phone being "targeted at end
users", it will (I assume) various apps that end users expect on their
phones.
Have FIC and the OpenMoko team had an
It is a wiki. You can add any questions you come up with right there. If
you receive a response via email, add the answer to the wiki too.
-Steven
On 7/12/07, Visti Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:56:16 +0800
Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There's a page on the wiki about this:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison
As you can see, they do have the same amount of RAM. It's the NVRAM that
has increased in size.
-Steven
On 7/12/07, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On
Someone has done the work for you:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison
-Steven
On 7/10/07, Chrtistopher Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can anyone tell me how much different the hardware will be In Oct for
retail release from this current deve
I wouldn't bother cutting your cable. Right now, the neo will only switch
to 500mA charging when it is successfully enumerated as a high-power
device. The only way you'll get it to fast charge from a power-only source,
will be to change the software to something like you mentioned. It
shouldn'
ch sense to me. Will it make sense once I
installed bitbake and the rest of the software?
Thank you for your time,
Benjamin
Check out http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_OpenMoko_from_scratch. Or
just use the MokoMakefile: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefi
Someone has already mentioned on this list about using the Wii Nunchuck.
Apparently it will connect to the I2C fairly easily. Search the archives.
-Steven
On 6/29/07, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There's also the possibility of adding some kind of attachment to a
special
Have you seen this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Text_Input
I think "Finger splash" may be close to what you're talking about.
MessagEase is on there already also.
-Steven
On 6/28/07, Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Perhaps someone could try b
On 6/28/07, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/28/07, Peter A Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 28/06/07, Fabien <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > On 6/28/07, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > &g
ly
keys shrinking. It would have to be handled very well though, or else it
would just look horrible and be unusable.
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Just try eBay when the time comes. Even without wifi, I would think a
smartphone with bluetooth, high-res touchscreen, etc going for $150 - $200.
-Steven
On 6/27/07, Ryan Prior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/6/07, Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Wednesd
It's been discussed here before (by me ;) ), but I think it's fitting to
bring it up in this thread.
Mounting a swipe fingerprint sensor on the side would provide the following:
* A low-power way to unlock the phone while verifying the user should be
unlocking the phone.
* Enhanced, or at le
Have you already find the MokoMakefile?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile
-Steven
On 6/12/07, Ivan -sk8- Chavero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello,
I want to start developing apps for openmoko but i haven't being able to
find any tools for that. i have browsed the wiki, p
Seems like xda-developers.com is focused on reverse engineering cell
phones. Specifically because the company that made those phones wouldn't
give them the information. And that's better than FIC how? FIC is giving
us the information! How is that bad?
-Steven
On 6/12/07, Mi
Not unless the Neo has a camera. Don't forget that the Wii remote has one.
-Steven
On 6/11/07, kenneth marken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Florent THIERY wrote:
>
> In other terms: we could potentially use any Wiimote accessory on a
> Neo... A nunchunk has a 3 axis acceler
cations are you thinking about for this?
-Steven
On 6/11/07, Florent THIERY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From:
http://www.windmeadow.com/node/42
"Data can be read from a wii nunchuck directly into an Arduino, using
TWI (aka I2C). "
In other terms: we could potentially use any
You should add that to the wiki. Perhaps as part of this:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Expansion_Back
-Steven
On 6/10/07, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok.. before you take my head.. here is an interesting design idea i found
online. Idea only.. and yes I realize tha
into the mobile
market).
The features don't really seem comparable. No wifi and no bluetooth. And
the screen is even smaller and lower resolution than the iPhone.
-Steven
On 6/7/07, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Has anyone else seen the samsung F700?
Its features are pretty
You should be aware of them. Check the wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications
-Steven
On 6/7/07, Eildert Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
dear list,
with a scheduled delivery date in 2007 I am a wondering what is going on
in
terms of software development. If this is
As of yet, AT&T hasn't disabled bluetooth like you mention. I bought a
phone from Cingular/AT&T only a couple months ago. (I chose them because I
wanted a GSM phone so I could play with the Neo when it's available). I'm
able to transfer music, pics, and other files from my computer to the phone
Well, Bradely's suggestion included making the flip transparent. If it's
transparent, the button definitions can still be on the screen, instead of
written on the buttons themselves. Now the only thing that is fixed is the
shape of the button matrix.
Personally, I'd like to see a touchscreen wi
There are two 3D accelerometers according to the talk at Tossug.
-Steven
On 6/4/07, kkr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If I well understand, three accelerometers are necessary to fully define
all phone's movements. Isn't it?
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-May/
As far as mainstream press, check out June 2007 issue of Popular Science
magazine. The Neo is one of "29 Hot Products".
-Steven
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Many fingerprint sensors that would fit where the button is have a
navigation function. They operate much like the touchstick, or a mini
touchpad, when not capturing a fingerprint. They are gaining traction in
the tablet and ultra-mobile PC market for doing scrolling and simple
navigation when
i2c is the interface used to program a camera. The "camera pins" you speak
of is the Digital Video Port (DVP). That's the interface the image data
goes across. You need both i2c and dvp to use the camera.
--Steve
On 5/26/07, Erik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't tell you specifics abou
d do whatever they
wanted to it. The number one rule of computer security: prevent physical
access. With physical access, you can accomplish pretty much anything!
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ency, it makes sense
to leave it that way.
It also occurs to me that in an OK/Cancel dialog, OK is always on the left.
So again, consistency would suggest leaving it that way.
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btw: That's only works if the port you connect to allows high power
devices. Most laptops have only one physical port which will let you
enumerate as a high power device, and sometimes even that port only allows
it when you're plugged in. So, hopefully the phone will be able to attempt
enumerati
Quoth your link:
"All in all, the P3300 features a typical display for a Windows
Mobile-powered communicator, which doesn't stand out against the
background of its rivals."
It's just another Windows PDA/phone. Boring.
-Steven
On 5/2/07, Marcin Juszkiewicz <[EMAIL P
These seem like very technical questions. Perhaps the devel list
would get you better responses?
-Steven
On 5/1/07, Nuutti Kotivuori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
One of the first things I'd like to do with my Neo1973 is to configure
the GPRS connection to be always on.
As I&#x
kill. It would definitely be awesome though!
-Steven
On 4/30/07, adrian cockcroft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Slingbox currently can stream your home video system (including TiVo)
to a computer or high speed (3G/WiFi) phone. It works well on laptops,
and I've seen it demonstrated on phon
d so that I stream video to the Neo.
That will be harder, but awesome.
-Steven
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le MythTV remote app approved by Apple? etc.
The iPhone hardware may be sweet, but the rest is a nightmare.
-Steven
On 4/27/07, Duncan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 4) Relax... you're not going to be able to add features to an iPhone.
OSX is unix based, so you and I both know
've
chosen, but they didn't. They were on the verge of not including WiFi
at all because they couldn't find an open chip.
Functionality is important. And the most important functionality is
the ability to modify your OpenMoko device. Having some closed aspect
limits the function
If you want smooth scrolling, how about this mod to what I said earlier:
On the double-tap to center-and-zoom, hold the the second tap. The pic
slowly (human speed) zooms and centers to where you're touching. When
you've zoomed in enough, lift the finger. This would be similar to the way
CTRL
Sound pretty good, but I change a couple things from what you describe. For
zooming and panning, don't do just the center tap thing. (For one thing,
panning doesn't make sense until you're zoomed in). I'd like to be able to
do most things without menus or buttons, just learned interaction.
To
Except a lot of us already have accounts on Facebook. I and several
others joined the group. And now, every one of my friends will see
that I joined this grouped called "OpenMoko" and be curious as to what
it is. Aka free publicity.
-Steven
On 4/12/07, Bartlomiej Zdanowski Aut
ot sure why you need an external MicroSD card, but all Neo's come
with a 512 MB MicroSD card. Sean mentioned that in the FOSDEM
presentation. Also, see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_much.3F
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traveling, since looking them up after the
fact would constitute copyright violation.
-Steven
On 4/2/07, Jonathon Suggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Here's an interesting question. What if you constantly logged your
position (while driving). Then when you got back home, you could upload
On 4/2/07, Steven ** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
According to OSM's wiki
(http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Getting_Involved#Recording_tracks_using_a_GPS_receiver
Step 5), it would be a copyright violation to use Google Maps in any
way to fill data into OSM. OSM insists in t
Might it be much simpler?
On my current cell phone, I can initiate a 3-way call after already talking
to somebody for any amount of time. So, when you get home, have a script
on the neo start a 3-way call to your home number, which will be answered by
your neo's call waiting via wifi, then hang
I bought one here: http://store.shentech.com/samisdmitrtf.html
It was $0.75, but they charged ~$8 for shipping.
-Steven
On 3/27/07, Jonathon Suggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> I dont know in general, but all Sandisk microsd cards I've seen have been
Yah. I was wondering about that. A friend of mine keeps bugging me
asking "when is it going to be available?" I just keep responding
"end of March".
We wait with bated breath.
-Steven
On 3/27/07, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Not at this time. We
iding on scrolling. But
I think an actual physics engine is overkill.
-Steven
On 3/22/07, Florent THIERY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi
I know it's not gonna come in the priority list before at least a year
(or ever), but if we want to add eye candy & (possibly) useability to
the UI (s
How does the GPL prevent mp3 and flash video support?
-Steven
On 3/22/07, Christian F.K. Schaller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Gnash would probably be of no interest to any shipping a commercial
product as the GPL license of it will conflict with enabling mp3 and
flash video support. swf
would only really be useful if the Neo has wifi...
Hmm... Maybe I should create that project on openmoko.org.
-Steven
On 3/19/07, Ben Burdette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think that the Neo1973 is both a phone and a portable handheld
> device. Using it as a remote control
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007, Steven Milburn wrote:
> First, if one concedes that the typical sensor can be easily fooled, I
still
> think fingerprint sensors tend to add security to most phones. That's
> because I think most users cannot be bothered to hide
Oh the fingerprint sensor FUD, what fun.
First, if one concedes that the typical sensor can be easily fooled, I still
think fingerprint sensors tend to add security to most phones. That's
because I think most users cannot be bothered to hide data behind a decent
pass phrase they would have t
I agree on the OpenID thing. I just got my OpenID created a couple of
weeks ago. It's nice not relying on any one company to store you
information.
Does the OpenID spec allow for storing additional information besides
just your password?
-Steven
On 3/15/07, Peter A Trotter <[EMAIL P
ardware guy and most of the acronyms on that TPO site mean
nothing to me, so type slowly.
-Steven
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I would post something like that on that page's Discussion/Talk page.
-Steven
On 3/11/07, Clare Johnstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I was trying to find an email address for the wiki administrator
to send this query (attached), but failed.
(If I had wanted to edit the wiki the
t could be integrated into the existing contacts/SMS
application pretty easily.
-Steven
On 3/4/07, Ryan Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I repeatedly find myself in situations similar to this:
I am at the mall with my parents and want to know if any of my
friends are at the mall. I
Sounds like Windows Vista. "ABC_Trojan has requested to send an SMS
message. Allow or Deny?"
-Steven
On 3/1/07, Martin Raißle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 3/1/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> However there might be such attempts to create GSM t
I added the price breakdown from the presentation to the Wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_much.3F
-Steven
On 2/27/07, Igor Foox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 2/26/07, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Ole Tange wrote:
> >> > I had hope
t could be
abused. We're treading too closely to the blasphemous idea of
"trusted computing".
-Steven
On 2/28/07, Attila Csipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A lot of ideas have been written on anti theft protection, but much of it from
a geek/user's standpoint, and almos
her provider if they tried to restrict your data usage.
-Steven
On 2/27/07, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The part that scares me about the "Data Connect" is the wording at the
top-level data page that includes the phrase "Requires usage with
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