Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-28 Thread John Lee
. however, for those who just want to make apps I think it's an right way to start. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Freerunner v. HTC v. ....

2008-05-24 Thread john
If you can pull a rabbit out of a hat whilst typing on a normal keyboard you are indeed a magician! 2008/5/24 Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you can type as fast on a touch screen as I can on a properly sized thumb keyboard, you are a magician. If you can type on a properly sized

Re: Questions about Freerunner: Phone Usability, Battery Life, Shipping Date

2008-05-10 Thread john
According to De La Soul it is! 2008/5/10 Mo Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [snip] Hmm, hopefully someone else will shed more light on that. I know different cultures have numbers that are considered unlucky, for example 13 in a lot of western cultures (not sure why), and the number 4 in

Re: location-oriented services

2008-04-07 Thread john
Thanks I will join this project and try and help out with testing etc. There are suitable differences to make things interesting. I am personally interested in the amounts of network traffic that are generated with these approaches. Looking forward to the code, John. On 07/04/2008, Chia-I Wu

tangoGPS refresh maps?

2008-04-06 Thread John Locke
contributions reach the map, how do I refresh the maps I've already downloaded? Is there a setting to make TangoGPS check to see if there's a newer version of a tile? I'm not set up for GPRS, and I've got quite a few tiles downloaded to the sd card I'd rather not lose... Cheers, -- John

location-oriented services

2008-04-05 Thread john
knowing that I am approximately close to something or someone and vice-versa. Anyway, I think D-Bus provides us with a good opportunity to develop some cool applications in this mobile space. Interested in your thoughts? John (zedstar on IRC). ___ Openmoko

Re: OpenMoko Presentation in London

2008-04-02 Thread john
Sounds like a good evening! I will try and attend. John. On 02/04/2008, Thomas Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UKUUG is hosting a talk by Ole Tange about OpenMoko next week in London (9th April). I'm planning to go along and take the latest GTA02 (FreeRunner) prototype if anyone

support win mobile

2008-04-01 Thread John Lee
enable win mobile on neo. One specific Openmoko hardware is going to support Windows mobile. It's the Neo Pocky. A prototype has been made and placed in our meeting room for quite a while. Please check this url for intro and photos: http://walkingice.twbbs.org/blog/?p=336 Regards, John Lee

Re: Qemu on GTA02, the problem still here

2008-03-24 Thread John Lee
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 02:12:00PM +0100, François TOURDE wrote: Le 13961ième jour après Epoch, John Lee écrivait: But it doesn't :(... In fact, the most_recent function in download.sh use alpha sorting to determine the most recent images, so in the list: u-boot-gta01bv4-1.3.1+svnr4223

Re: Qemu on GTA02, the problem still here

2008-03-23 Thread John Lee
svn update the openmoko directory under /moko is not equivalent to updating the package built from OE. maybe you can enable moko-autorev.inc or download from the uri above. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Over The Air - event

2008-03-16 Thread john
Anybody from Openmoko or the community attending Over The Air ? http://overtheair.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: openmoko-devel-image error

2008-03-11 Thread John Lee
the correct decision to delete the buld/tmp directory if abi_version file changes (0-1). Thanks. Hi Javi, FYI: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2008-March/002070.html Regards, John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: GTK RAD

2008-02-02 Thread john
TCP RST'ing idle sessions is not part of NAT as a protocol (RFC 2766). Anyway, it is not problem to solve, it was more the point that in the wild you will encounter different situations from an emulated environment (depending on your app). John. On 02/02/2008, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am

Distribution weekly update

2008-02-01 Thread John Lee
the cool things we missed. Cheers, John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: GTK RAD

2008-02-01 Thread john
Yes, you could have a simple shell script to setup your cross compilation toolchain. For example I use: #!/bin/bash . /etc/profile export OM=/home/john/moko export PATH=$OM/build/tmp/cross/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin:$PATH export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$OM/build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux

Re: GTK RAD

2008-02-01 Thread john
You mileage will vary depending on the type of app. I do most of my testing on the desktop but lately I have been testing with a GPRS connection on my Neo. I had no idea Vodafone would reset my TCP connections when I idle for example! John. On 01/02/2008, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So

Re: GPS/Cell phone patent issue

2008-01-26 Thread john
Having read that patent I feel compelled to submit my latest idea to the US patent office. A turd on a stick We claim: 1. It is a turd 2. It is a stick insert evil laugh On 25/01/2008, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today I blogged about a company that has a patent on what I would

Re: OpenMoko will be at SVHMPC meeting TONIGHT in Menlo Park

2008-01-17 Thread john
Flexibility - I know people developing apps on their Neo in Scheme, Erlang you name it! Timing - Already I am able to physically take my Neo out and test my application with both GPS and GPRS running (within the power management limitations). John. On 16/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: OpenMoko will be at SVHMPC meeting TONIGHT in Menlo Park

2008-01-17 Thread john
and representing the world of Linux, Trolltech. ... It sounds a good one. I will be attending. Regards, John -- http://zedstar.org On 16/01/2008, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sorry for the short notice. The monthly meeting of the Silicon Valley Homebrew Mobile Phone Club (SVHMPC

Re: New to OpenMoko

2008-01-17 Thread john
targeting the yoof market would be a good addition later on down the line. John. PS any news of a model with a QWERTY keyboard, a-la Nokia E61i? This would be much welcome (at least from me) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: noise while making a phone call: hardware or software?

2008-01-16 Thread John Locke
actually changed at some point in September, and whatever setting was responsible for the sound was no longer available in alsamixer. So I'm thinking this is a software or driver issue... Hope that helps, -- John Locke Open Source Solutions for Small Business Problems published by Charles River

Re: Toolchain alpha release

2008-01-06 Thread John Lee
got time to really look at it. - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Announce nightly build and source code packages

2007-12-27 Thread John Lee
, John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Toolchain alpha release

2007-12-10 Thread John Lee
Hi, i686 version is released as well. http://downloads.openmoko.org/toolchains/ On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 02:07:59AM +0800, John Lee wrote: Hi, Please check http://downloads.openmoko.org/toolchains/openmoko-x86_64-arm-linux-gnueabi-toolchain.tar.bz2 It's the alpha release of a lean

Re: Toolchain alpha release

2007-12-10 Thread John Lee
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:55:00AM +0100, Koen Kooi wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Lee schreef: Hi, i686 version is released as well. http://downloads.openmoko.org/toolchains/ As I pointed out to Mickey last week, you can't legally distribute

Re: need a compatible provider in central U.S.

2007-12-07 Thread John Locke
(a Motorola) didn't have 850. Seems to me my phone got a signal in Okla. City and Tulsa, but pretty much nowhere else in the state... 20 miles out of Tulsa I had no signal. Cheers, John Jason Joines wrote: It is pretty rural but the town I'm in has a population of about 50,000

Toolchain alpha release

2007-12-04 Thread John Lee
in Taipei. Regards, John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: OpenMoko OE repository not quite ready for MokoMakefile production usage

2007-11-30 Thread John Lee
be subtle problems in different usage scenarios, so please give feedback and I'll fix them asap. - John On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 09:14:15PM +1030, Rod Whitby wrote: There is one issue which means that MokoMakefile cannot change over to using the new area yet. I have discussed this with John

OpenMoko OE repository

2007-11-29 Thread John Lee
that allows you to build the OpenMoko distribution. This is part of the work from the tools team of OpenMoko, lead by Mickey. The current repository maintainer is [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Enjoy! Cheers, John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: OpenMoko OE repository

2007-11-29 Thread John Lee
' is really slow. :p - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

linuxmobiles.org - a new forum

2007-11-19 Thread John Smith
but I'm not a native englisch speaker. It would be a pleasure if someone is interestet in this. Cu, John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Moved page for those interested in second hand Neos

2007-11-10 Thread John Locke
experience. I'm keeping mine... Now where's that GPS binary? Cheers, John ian douglas wrote: Well, if we don't hear something pretty soon about the 3G issue, I'm going to list mine -- I'd like to at least use the upper frequency bands with ATT or TMobile since I'm in a major metropolitan area

Re: Battery time

2007-11-08 Thread John Locke
without it!) And a recent update hosed most of the menu, so I can't get to the feedreader or terminal at the moment... Cheers, John Oliver Uvman wrote: Hi! So for the longest time, I've been worrying about the battery life of the Neo. Before I buy the GTA02, it is something I'd love to know

Re: Current status, and previous Community Updates: wiki page

2007-10-31 Thread John Morrison
On Wed, October 31, 2007 8:18 pm, Michael Shiloh wrote: I've created a wiki page to consolidate the current status, and provide a place for you to add questions and topics you'd like to see addressed. I've also created a page for each previous Community Update, for reference.

Event: Future of Mobile

2007-10-25 Thread john
Will anyone from OpenMoko or the community be attending Future of Mobile in London? http://www.future-of-mobile.com/ I plan to go so let me know if you are and fancy meeting up. Cheers, John. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-27 Thread john
I also prefer GTK+ and have invested some time developing an application on my Neo with it. I find it very easy to develop and test on my GNOME based desktop (Ubuntu) and re-compile for the Neo. I hope OpenMoko continues down the same route. John (putting a vote in for GTK+) Joshua Layne

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-25 Thread john
an ipk of the Chicken Scheme system if anybody is tempted to the dark side? ;) John. Carlo E. Prelz wrote: Subject: Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973 Date: mar 25 set 07 01:23:37 -0700 Quoting Ted Lemon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This is an utterly pathetic excuse not to try something

Re: Screen shots of Qtopia on Neo and some thoughts

2007-09-19 Thread John Locke
OpenMoko wasn't quite ready for day-to-day use. -- John Locke Open Source Solutions for Small Business Problems published by Charles River Media, June 2004 http://www.freelock.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: application idea

2007-09-15 Thread John Locke
you step off a 'plane allows you to pack appropriately. Wow that would be some hardware... a time-warping GPS module, to know your location before you get there! Think of the possibilities: Show my position, today + 7 days... :-p -- John Locke Open Source Solutions for Small Business Problems

RE: Power on device after being powered down

2007-08-27 Thread John Seghers
management software isn't doing its job yet. Do we need to remove the battery to ensure the phone is definitely powered down? At the moment, yes. - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

RE: Convince me NOT to cancel my order.

2007-08-24 Thread John Seghers
...and your question will still be valid...and you can keep waiting...forever. - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Greenphone is not GPL (was RE: At the risk of being flamed : State of software)

2007-08-24 Thread John Seghers
://trolltech.com/products/qtopia/greenphone/greenphonesdk - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: price politics for hardware updates post-phase-1/2

2007-08-22 Thread John Seghers
-price for the phase 1 and then getting a discount on phase 2 (and having to put a system in place for tracking who gets the discounts) they simply sold the Phase 1 phones at a discount. - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

RE: 3G SIMs?

2007-08-22 Thread John Seghers
/wiki/Carriers/ATT T-Mobile seems to have a better track record so far: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers/TMobile - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: Can't flash smaller root-fs through dfu-util?

2007-08-22 Thread John Seghers
. The commands above actually run over USB. Simply boot the Neo into uBoot (hold the Aux button while powering on) and select the option to use the console over USB (Move selection using Aux, invoke the selection by pressing power). Then plug in the USB cable and run the cu command. - John

RE: Using Qemu

2007-08-14 Thread John Seghers
with QEMU in general is: take your time. Click and hold it for a second or two. If you do quick clicks that you're used to doing on the desktop, it will often not register at all in the emulator. - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community

What a heavy lunch-box!

2007-08-03 Thread John Kosta
Photos are here: http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/openmoko/images/package/ Thanks for the great photos! I am lurking on the list and participating vicariously. The photos help make it seem more real. I'd love to see some in-action shots if ever possible from anyone who gets their phone

Re: New looker where to start?

2007-08-03 Thread John Locke
or rights to further distribute. Cheers, -- John Locke Open Source Solutions for Small Business Problems published by Charles River Media, June 2004 http://www.freelock.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

RE: US: T-Mobile plans

2007-07-31 Thread John Seghers
, they have not allowed JAR files to be downloaded from non-approved sites. This could be gotten around with special SIMs if you have a developer relationship with T-Mobile. There might be fewer restrictions on the Mobile Internet vs. Mobile Web. - John Nkoli wrote: The only difference between T

RE: US: T-Mobile plans

2007-07-31 Thread John Seghers
allow it to proceed. Also, log into Samsung's developer boards and you will find commentary that other developers were running into the same issue. - John Eric Johnson wrote: Are you sure this wasn't a certificate issue on your jar file. I had no trouble downloading J2ME apps last year using T

Java games for openMoko

2007-07-28 Thread John Smith
Hello, I'm sorry but I'm new to the openMoko system. So my question, is it possible to play java games, like for other mobiles, on the openMoko? I know, they must be compiled for it. But is it possible to play in the same, easy way, some java games? Thanks, John

Re: Wiki application list.

2007-07-27 Thread John Locke
it until there's a substantially good reason. It's definitely fun to play around with, and there's lots of stuff to do in a shell. But there are some strange missing pieces, like no cron, no timezone support... Hope that helps. Cheers, -- John Locke Open Source Solutions for Small Business Problems

RE: qemu trouble...

2007-07-26 Thread John Seghers
Giles Jones wrote: On 25 Jul 2007, at 23:42, John Seghers wrote: ifconfig usb0 inet 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting that the IP you use for usb0 is 192.168.0.200, then ssh into 202. I thought this was a typo then considered that it was deliberate

RE: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread John Seghers
? - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread John Seghers
Giles Jones wrote: On 25 Jul 2007, at 23:09, John Seghers wrote: I'm sure it will fit well...but will you actually be able to read it without a magnifying glass? Having owned a VGA PDA with similar screen size I can say that the resolution helps with readability. Hopefully

RE: qemu trouble...

2007-07-25 Thread John Seghers
: s3c_udc_handle_packet: EP0 overrun pcf_write: automatic Fast-charge enabled s3c_udc_handle_packet: EP0 overrun However, if I go ahead and configure the USB interface and connect via ssh, it works: ifconfig usb0 inet 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] - John PS: I found

Re: Significant Numbers of Non-Developers?

2007-07-20 Thread John Locke
over to my wife when it's usable enough... P.S. I am going to Ubuntu Live on Sunday, at least to the exhibit hall and the BOF... I'll look forward to meeting people there! Cheers, -- John Locke Open Source Solutions for Small Business Problems published by Charles River Media, June 2004 http

RE: Not the free phone

2007-07-16 Thread John Seghers
of the phone to the cost of the phone is not a valid comparison. However, something like It's your phone, use it your way is likely the better avenue. - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

order confirmation numbers

2007-07-12 Thread Cass, John P
] yesterday but havent had a reply yet) Thanks John Cass ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: Open Moko Themes

2007-06-13 Thread John Seghers
about a landscape vs. portrait orientation? Moving from 640 wide x 480 high to 480 wide x 640 high is going to need more than scaling. You are going to want to use the display differently. So yes, a different SVG file would likely be needed. - John

RE: Open Moko Themes

2007-06-12 Thread John Seghers
Luit van Drongelen wrote: (most phones and PDAs are QVGA). Actually most phones sold today are 176 x 220, whereas most PDAs are QVGA. There's still a lot of phones today that are 128 x 160 and the Sidekick III is still 240 x 160. - John

Openness (was RE: Concern for usability and ergonomics)

2007-06-12 Thread John Seghers
. That they didn't put your must-have feature in the next rev. - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: Open Moko Themes

2007-06-12 Thread John Seghers
that aggregated the output of the dialer and the CRM app. At JavaOne there was a presentation on JSR 258 about a skinning architecture, but it only seemed to address appearance of elements, not layout nor the ability to combine features. - John ___ OpenMoko

RE: Openness (was RE: Concern for usability and ergonomics)

2007-06-12 Thread John Seghers
them yet. However, my frustration (if you want to call it that) is the missed delivery date. They set a concrete date, missed it, and then just told us soon. I don't think that is very professional. Missed dates are not exceptional in this industry... - John

RE: Java

2007-06-08 Thread John Seghers
have I tried it in arm emulation--but they do have a Linux ARM build target and if qvfb can be built for Linux ARM, it should work. - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: UI ideas/questions or can we animate things as smooth as iPhone?

2007-06-07 Thread John Seghers
Daniel sent his response directly instead of to the list by accident. I confirmed that with him so I'm leaving his entire reply and adding my points at the end... -Original Message- From: Silva, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 10:40 AM To: John Seghers

Status of phoneME?

2007-05-17 Thread John Seghers
in on the status of phoneME on either of these devices? - John ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread John Locke
is on the right, and the disconnect on the left. On my wife's Motorola phone, the call/OK is on the left, and the cancel/disconnect on the right. Messes both of us up all the time, when we use each other's phones! Cheers, -- John Locke Open Source Solutions for Small Business Problems published

Wifi for OpenMoko - NXP BGM220 just announced

2007-03-22 Thread John Clark
. If the OpenMoko had VOIP I would jump ship to it yesterday... All the best, John Clark ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

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