Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-04 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are roundabouts in tunnels an April fool? Never encountered one. No, roundabouts in tunnels are real - we even have one or two such tunnels here in Norway. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen Norway

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-03 Thread Tilman Baumann
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: What do we need the CAN interface for? We already know the speed before we enter the tunnel, and if the neo is in a car holder in a stable position, calibrated with some software, it knows from the accelerometers if we are driving strait ahead or making a turn

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-03 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
I know from my experience with 3D accelerometers that there is a lot of drifting. We would also need a filter to take away vibrations. But I also know that some guys at my Uni. managed to keep a model helicopter at the same position in the air by only using input from the accelerometers and the

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-02 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 4/1/08, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 01 April 2008, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: On 4/1/08, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Norway, where I live, some tunnels are very long and even sometimes contain internal enter and exit lanes, so there can be

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-02 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:52:56 +0200, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do we need the CAN interface for? We already know the speed before we enter the tunnel, and if the neo is in a car holder in a stable position, calibrated with some software, it knows from the

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-02 Thread Niluge KiWi
What do we need the CAN interface for? We already know the speed before we enter the tunnel, and if the neo is in a car holder in a stable position, calibrated with some software, it knows from the accelerometers if we are driving strait ahead or making a turn and also if we are accelerating.

RE: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-02 Thread Crane, Matthew
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flemming Richter Mikkelsen Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Accelerometer brainstorming On 4/1/08, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 01 April 2008, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote

RE: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread Crane, Matthew
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crane, Matthew Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:08 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: Accelerometer brainstorming Yea, there would need to be a decent test and experiment app, with GUI, record data feature, and visualization of data. That would

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread Kyle Bassett
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexey Feldgendler Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:22 AM To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Accelerometer brainstorming Just like my recent post about using GPS to enhance the phone, I'll try to explore the synergy opportunities

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread Christian Beier
Am Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:09:14 +0100 schrieb Peter Kraker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unfortunately you need accurate speed to be able to get usable data from accelerometers for that. That's why some GPS modules have an interface for tachometer. May be the history of GPS could be used to approximate the

RE: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread Crane, Matthew
: Monday, March 31, 2008 1:25 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Accelerometer brainstorming I think your examples are very possible. Kind of reaching would be something like trying to detect the type of jacket the person is wearing based on how much the fibers stretch

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 01 April 2008, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: On 4/1/08, Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Norway, where I live, some tunnels are very long and even sometimes contain internal enter and exit lanes, so there can be more than one way to go. My Garmin navigator tries

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-04-01 Thread enaut
I mean we could also use the open moko to chiptune the engine of our car or to control the ABS/ESP. or we could make it run the car so that nobody needs to pay attension to the road but is that really nessesary or a good idea? I mean it is not a super computer having a really large scale Cpu.

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-31 Thread Kalle Happonen
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Do you think it's possible to use traits of a person's walk for identification? Never heard about something like this. Interesting idea, if it turns out implementable. I remember seeing some research results about this a few years back. Using a phone with

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-31 Thread Gilles Casse
On Lun 31 mars 2008 10:59, Kalle Happonen a écrit : Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Do you think it's possible to use traits of a person's walk for identification? Never heard about something like this. Interesting idea, if it turns out implementable. I remember seeing some research results about

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-31 Thread Lally Singh
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Lun 31 mars 2008 10:59, Kalle Happonen a écrit : Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Do you think it's possible to use traits of a person's walk for identification? Never heard about something like this. Interesting

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-31 Thread Jay Vaughan
You folks are freaking me out. Outside of tracking people, any other ideas for why you'd want this? reality-based games. pathfinding. picnics. parties in the desert. etc. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-31 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You folks are freaking me out. Outside of tracking people, any other ideas for why you'd want this? reality-based games. pathfinding. picnics. parties in the desert. etc. The cool factor?

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-30 Thread beren
Another idea would be to use the accelerometers as a method of text entry in combination with dasher [1] - similar to this [2]. Could turn out to be a lot easier than using a small on-screen keyboard... [1] http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ [2]

RE: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-29 Thread steve
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crane, Matthew Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:08 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: Accelerometer brainstorming Yea, there would need to be a decent test and experiment app, with GUI, record data feature, and visualization of data. That would

Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
Just like my recent post about using GPS to enhance the phone, I'll try to explore the synergy opportunities for the accelerometers that Neo has. Once again, some of this might have already been discussed. * Intuitive mute: put the ringing phone on a flat horizontal surface (table) with

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Joseph Reeves
To join this post and your previous post, how about using the accelerometers to enhance the GPS? Not just for power saving, but say you drive through a tunnel; the GOS loses connectivity but the device still knows your location based on accelerometer data. There are commercially available in car

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:31:20 +0100, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To join this post and your previous post, how about using the accelerometers to enhance the GPS? Not just for power saving, but say you drive through a tunnel; the GOS loses connectivity but the device still knows

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread christooss
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Just like my recent post about using GPS to enhance the phone, I'll try to explore the synergy opportunities for the accelerometers that Neo has. Once again, some of this might have already been discussed. * Intuitive mute: put the ringing phone on a flat horizontal

RE: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Crane, Matthew
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexey Feldgendler Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:22 AM To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Accelerometer brainstorming Just like my recent post about using GPS to enhance the phone, I'll try to explore

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Peter Kraker
Unfortunately you need accurate speed to be able to get usable data from accelerometers for that. That's why some GPS modules have an interface for tachometer. Joseph Reeves pravi: To join this post and your previous post, how about using the accelerometers to enhance the GPS? Not just for

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:59:38 +0100, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * I mentioned this in another thread, but if the device: - goes from 60km+ to 0 in short order, e.g. high g stop - while traveling horizontally - over a road - an on-screen

RE: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 12:59 -0400, Crane, Matthew wrote: * Detect when phone has dropped out of ones pocket, short fall by aprupt stop, beep three times loudly. (that's kind of reaching..) Better even: start self check and if it fails play HAL singing Daisy while fading away (from Kubrick's

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Hugo Mills
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 06:18:51PM +0100, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:59:38 +0100, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Use acell data to charecterize person carrying the phone (as many couples out there will share phones, or give to children) and tie into user

RE: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Bobby Martin
I don't think that's reaching at all! The blogger running http://gadgets.boingboing.net just blogged this week about how he lost his iPhone - it fell out of his pocket in a taxicab and he didn't realize until after. Maybe if it happens 6 months hence we can berate him for not avoiding the whole

Re: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Ben Burdette
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: Just like my recent post about using GPS to enhance the phone, I'll try to explore the synergy opportunities for the accelerometers that Neo has. Once again, some of this might have already been discussed. I'd like to see an accelerometer graphing application, so you

RE: Accelerometer brainstorming

2008-03-28 Thread Crane, Matthew
for GPS, but should it be new/separate or tagged onto GPS for acellerometer? Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Burdette Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:40 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Accelerometer