Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-03-02 Thread Mike Hodson
On 3/1/07, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Get mplayer, and compile. This is playable with only the software codecs, no windows dlls are involved at all. (or at least it worked with them moved out of the usual place) As to why I picked it - I don't know offhand the switches to make men

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-03-01 Thread Ian Stirling
kkr wrote: Le jeudi 01 mars 2007 à 12:44 -0600, Jonathon Suggs a écrit : kkr wrote: Why not use an open format (.ogg) rather than proprietary one (.avi)? It was not a criticism, only a question! If you felt it as such a criticism, I'm sorry... If I've asked it, it's only: - FOSDEM use too o

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-03-01 Thread kkr
Le jeudi 01 mars 2007 à 12:44 -0600, Jonathon Suggs a écrit : > kkr wrote: > > Why not use an open format (.ogg) rather than proprietary one (.avi)? > > > > Regards, > > > Really not trying to start a fight here. But more players support avi > than ogg. Therefore I agree with the choice. > >

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-03-01 Thread Jonathon Suggs
kkr wrote: Why not use an open format (.ogg) rather than proprietary one (.avi)? Regards, Really not trying to start a fight here. But more players support avi than ogg. Therefore I agree with the choice. Open formats and standards are great when they stand on their own merits. Not tha

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-03-01 Thread kkr
Le jeudi 01 mars 2007 à 12:45 +, Ian Stirling a écrit : > I uploaded to rapidshare http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi > which is a better encoding of the video - 66M, but with most of the > larger text visible. > With the screen and a little bit to the right of it only. Why not

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-03-01 Thread Ian Stirling
Steven ** wrote: I added the price breakdown from the presentation to the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_much.3F I uploaded to rapidshare http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi which is a better encoding of the video - 66M, but with most of the larger text visible. With

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-03-01 Thread Steven **
I added the price breakdown from the presentation to the Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_much.3F -Steven On 2/27/07, Igor Foox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/26/07, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Ole Tange wrote: > >> > I had hoped there was video coverage of the eve

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread denis
Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb: On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 10:52 +0100, denis wrote: Why can't they just tell us what the features will be? Is it so difficult to be open? In my opinion it would bring much more credibility for FIC. But if we can't deliver for some reason it would have the inverse

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 10:52 +0100, denis wrote: > Why can't they just tell us what the features will be? Is it so > difficult to be open? In my opinion it would bring much more > credibility > for FIC. But if we can't deliver for some reason it would have the inverse effect. Please understand I

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread Oleg Gusev
Am Dienstag, 27. Februar 2007 17:43 schrieb Pedro Aguilar: > > I don't remember exactly the price of the > car kit, I think it was around US$50 > I think it was US$70, and includes the GSM antenna. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@l

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia wtorek, 27 lutego 2007, Igor Foox napisał: > On 2/26/07, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone who was present at FOSDEM tell the rest of us what the > pricing options for the Neo are? There is a slide in the video where > Sean talks about the pricing for the {Regular,Car Kit, Ha

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread wim delvaux
On Tuesday 27 February 2007 17:26:42 Igor Foox wrote: > On 2/26/07, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Ole Tange wrote: > > >> > I had hoped there was video coverage of the event. When I found out > > >> > there was not I asked one of the better seated persons to record the > > >> > event

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread Pedro Aguilar
If I remember well, the price for the regular device was US$350 and for the hacker's lunchbox $US200. I don't remember exactly the price of the car kit, I think it was around US$50 In the "Open Embedded" booth they had a Neo1973 that I could play with for around 5 mins!!! Here's my first experienc

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread Igor Foox
On 2/26/07, Rod Whitby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ole Tange wrote: >> > I had hoped there was video coverage of the event. When I found out >> > there was not I asked one of the better seated persons to record the >> > event using my pocket camera. I have yet to see if the recording is >> > ac

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread denis
Duncan Hudson schrieb: denis wrote: Have you ever seen Nokia (or any other company) announcing the SAME device (just with 2-5 more features) in 6 months. I have never seen this. I haven't seen Nokia do it. But Handspring / Palm / PalmOne / Access (whatever their Name de Jour is) has been doin

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread Duncan Hudson
denis wrote: Have you ever seen Nokia (or any other company) announcing the SAME device (just with 2-5 more features) in 6 months. I have never seen this. I haven't seen Nokia do it. But Handspring / Palm / PalmOne / Access (whatever their Name de Jour is) has been doing this for sometime with

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread denis
Richard Bennett schrieb: On Tuesday 27 February 2007 09:07, denis wrote: Have you ever seen Nokia (or any other company) announcing the SAME device (just with 2-5 more features) in 6 months. I have never seen this. Yeah. I think it is really great that they are so open about these thi

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread Richard Bennett
On Tuesday 27 February 2007 09:07, denis wrote: > > Have you ever seen Nokia (or any other company) announcing the SAME > device (just with 2-5 more features) in 6 months. I have never seen this. > Yeah. I think it is really great that they are so open about these things. At least this way everyb

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com Date: Tue 27 Feb 07 09:07:37AM +0100 Quoting denis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Have you ever seen Nokia (or any other company) announcing the SAME > device (just with 2-5 more features) in 6 months. I have never seen th

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread denis
Rod Whitby schrieb: denis wrote: Paul Bonser schrieb: Sean already said that they will be giving some sort of discount on the v2 phone for those who buy the v1 phone... I know that. But what is the discount? Is it 20% or 50%? I won't buy a phone from which I know there will be a

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-27 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Tuesday 27 February 2007 08:32:38 Rod Whitby wrote: > With consumer electronics, you either buy now with the feature set you > know at the price you know (and not complain when a better feature set > is announced at a lower price the next day), or you wait forever as > announcement after announc

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-26 Thread Rod Whitby
denis wrote: > Paul Bonser schrieb: >> Sean already said that they will be giving some sort of discount on >> the v2 phone for those who buy the v1 phone... > I know that. But what is the discount? Is it 20% or 50%? I won't buy a > phone from which I know there will be a better version available 6

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-26 Thread denis
Paul Bonser schrieb: On 2/26/07, denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah that is indeed really interesting. From my point of view it would be fair to keep the community informed about the features that will be added in that "v2" of the Neo before selling the "developement" version. Even a develope

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-26 Thread Paul Bonser
On 2/26/07, denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah that is indeed really interesting. From my point of view it would be fair to keep the community informed about the features that will be added in that "v2" of the Neo before selling the "developement" version. Even a developer will not really be a

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-26 Thread denis
Richard Bennett schrieb: On Monday 26 February 2007 13:20, Rod Whitby wrote: Ole Tange wrote: I had hoped there was video coverage of the event. When I found out there was not I asked one of the better seated persons to record the event using my pocket camera. I have yet to see if t

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-26 Thread mathew davis
Is there a place that we can get the slides from the presentation. It's kind of hard to see them from the video. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-26 Thread Richard Bennett
On Monday 26 February 2007 13:20, Rod Whitby wrote: > >> Ole Tange wrote: > >> > I had hoped there was video coverage of the event. When I found out > >> > there was not I asked one of the better seated persons to record the > >> > event using my pocket camera. I have yet to see if the recording is

Re: FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-26 Thread Mark Chandler
Rod Whitby wrote: Ole Tange wrote: I had hoped there was video coverage of the event. When I found out there was not I asked one of the better seated persons to record the event using my pocket camera. I have yet to see if the recording is acceptable. What is the easiest way to distribut

FOSDEM OpenMoko talk now on video.google.com

2007-02-26 Thread Rod Whitby
>> Ole Tange wrote: >> > I had hoped there was video coverage of the event. When I found out >> > there was not I asked one of the better seated persons to record the >> > event using my pocket camera. I have yet to see if the recording is >> > acceptable. >> > >> > What is the easiest way to distr