Tim Newsom napisał(a):
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 6:09, Evgeny wrote:
It still Linux based phone — there is absolutely no real-life viruses
for Linux at this time, trojans are possible treat, but user have to
install them by himself.
That's a pretty strong statement.. Are you absolutely sure there
Sorry, got caught in the reply to issue.
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From: Tim Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Possible security hole for Dialers/troyan horses
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 7:02:58 -0800
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 0:05, Evgeny wrote:
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 07:35
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 07:35 -0800, Tim Newsom wrote:
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 6:09, Evgeny wrote:
It still Linux based phone — there is absolutely no real-life viruses
for Linux at this time, trojans are possible treat, but user have to
install them by himself.
That's a pretty strong
Martin Raißle napisał(a):
On 3/2/07, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In combination of what was said before - the virus scanner - we could
maybe use a database of application hashes, so not every app has to be
configurated but only those that are not found in the database, maybe
this
On 3/2/07, Bartłomiej Zdanowski DRP AC2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It has to be as simple as possible.
That's why I think this is a good solution .. users don't have to
think about everything but only the problems, openmoko cannot solve.
Of course a scanner will slow down the thing a bit and
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 10:19 +0100, Bartłomiej Zdanowski DRP AC2 wrote:
I'm afraid that you're going a bit too far. I thought about making
costs with illegal calls and smses. Virus protection should appear
only when viruses appear.
It still Linux based phone — there is absolutely no real-life
Aloril writes:
Fortunately in Linux usually to be able to run executable arriving in
email you need to do following:
1) Save file to disk
2) chmod +x that_file (or equivalent in GUI)
3) run_that_file
That's only because Linux MUA's typically don't implement the 'run
directly from the message'
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 6:09, Evgeny wrote:
It still Linux based phone — there is absolutely no real-life viruses
for Linux at this time, trojans are possible treat, but user have to
install them by himself.
That's a pretty strong statement.. Are you absolutely sure there are no
viruses for
From: Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd.
Todd W napisał(a):
I don't understand why people think this. I haven't ran in to a phone yet
that I couldn't run my own apps on. A particular account may not
have the proper level of network access, but that has nothing to do with
the capabilities of
Hello.
While thinking of antythieft protection we came to some ideas about
sending smses with stolen phone GPS coords. There were some ideas about
silent voice calls with message that the phone is stolen.
(for details see thread Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection).
But at this point we came to
2007/3/1, Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Bigger than phone theft. That's why commercial phone
manufacturers don't allow to access all the phone for java apps. To disallow
hidden calls and smses.
IMHO this is not main reason why commercial
Krzysztof Kajkowski napisał(a):
2007/3/1, Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Bigger than phone theft. That's why commercial
phone
manufacturers don't allow to access all the phone for java apps. To
disallow
hidden calls and smses.
We have
similiar
On 3/1/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However there might be such attempts to create GSM trojans
and we should be aware to enable user to protect itself. The question
is how to do that?
What do you think?
First off all I think that there are good chances for a trojan, even
Martin Raißle wrote:
On 3/1/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However there might be such attempts to create GSM trojans
and we should be aware to enable user to protect itself. The question
is how to do that?
What do you think?
First off all I think that there are good
Sounds like Windows Vista. ABC_Trojan has requested to send an SMS
message. Allow or Deny?
-Steven
On 3/1/07, Martin Raißle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/1/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However there might be such attempts to create GSM trojans
and we should be aware to
From: Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd.
While thinking of antythieft protection we came to some ideas about
sending smses with stolen phone GPS coords. There were some
ideas about silent voice calls with message that the phone is stolen.
(for details see thread Itch3: Anti-lost/theft
Le jeudi 01 mars 2007 à 09:48 -0600, Jonathon Suggs a écrit :
snip
Isn't this something along the lines of SELinux? If that is the case,
is that something we should look at implementing?
snip
As I understood SELinux, it would be a good tool for security.
Many (or most) other (close) Linux
kkr wrote:
Le jeudi 01 mars 2007 à 09:48 -0600, Jonathon Suggs a écrit :
snip
Isn't this something along the lines of SELinux? If that is the case,
is that something we should look at implementing?
snip
As I understood SELinux, it would be a good tool for security.
Many (or most)
Here are a few options that I have thought of.
What if there was a peice of software that was like an emulator that would
run the binary on your computer before you uploaded it to your phone. That
would to catch certain security flags, or potentially undesired
behavior, letting the user know
2007/3/1, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
then give it a rating of some sort 1 - being safe/trusted program and 10 -
being known bad binary/ don't use at any cost unless you really want bad
things to happen.
Well, nobody will recognize difference between rating 2 and 3 or 6 and
7. I think set
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:42, Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
2007/3/1, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
then give it a rating of some sort 1 - being safe/trusted program and
10 -
being known bad binary/ don't use at any cost unless you really want
bad
things to happen.
Well, nobody will recognize
Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
2007/3/1, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
then give it a rating of some sort 1 - being safe/trusted program and
10 -
being known bad binary/ don't use at any cost unless you really want bad
things to happen.
Well, nobody will recognize difference between rating 2 and
On 3/2/07, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really like that idea. That could be a standard part of EVERY
installed app (outside of trusted OpenMoko apps). Just one more step in
helping users not shoot themselves in the foot.
In combination of what was said before - the virus
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 13:38 -0500, Todd W wrote:
That's the problem with malware in general. You can't engineer stupidity out
of your users.
Fortunately in Linux usually to be able to run executable arriving in
email you need to do following:
1) Save file to disk
2) chmod +x that_file (or
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