On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote:
Other things that I'd change if I were able to, off the top of my head:
Hi Tony!
A great list of issues and things to write down for further development.
Please add the items here so they're all on one list and can easily
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Staley, Daniel L wrote:
3.) This is a big one for me: When someone sends me a text message,
the number does not get looked up in the addressbook. The lookup works
fine when someone calls me, but not when an sms comes in. I just see
the number instead of the name.
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 06:46:54PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote:
Hi Angus,
On Thu, 21.05.2009 at 10:03:50 -0600, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org
wrote:
The time gets updated from the network
NTP, I assume?
That'd be very much ok.
Thats paroli talking to the frame work before the
2009/5/20 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi:
I've been told that you can install the package udev-static-devices to
reduce the boot time by ~30s (but if you have your home on
/media/disk/bind-home, it'll not work, see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Installing ) - stuff still under
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
how do we install this package? i can't find it in the om archives; is
it from a separate feed, or does it need to be installed manually?
2009/5/22 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com:
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com
wrote:
how do we install this package? i can't find it in the om archives; is
it from a separate feed, or does it need to be installed manually?
On May 21, 2009 07:22:15 am Robin Paulson wrote:
that's confusing. i'm trying to install udev-static-devices, because
apparently it will speed up boot time.
it's not listed in the feeds which are on my neo (including
'http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/' as you
listed
Hi,
I decided I'd try to start using om2009 as my daily phone to help test it out.
Here are a few of my comments (some I'm sure have been mentioned before)
1.) I really like the paroli look/interface! It is simple, responsive, and
the contrast makes it easy to see.
2.) If you rotate the
Hi,
On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote:
Toni Mueller wrote:
I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;}
Yeah, we want it all :)
while flashing moko11 I've just discovered that Paroli doesn't let me
set the date, but only the time. For
On May 21, 2009 09:21:07 am Toni Mueller wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com
wrote:
Toni Mueller wrote:
I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;}
Yeah, we want it all :)
while flashing moko11 I've just discovered that
Hi,
some more breakage, may be unrelated to Om2009, though...
I've managed to mangle my menues, so now I can't get at the settings
anymore, and the Terminal is also gone. I don't remember being able to
completely disable suspend, and my micro SD card seems to be not
properly recognized. At
Hi Angus,
On Thu, 21.05.2009 at 10:03:50 -0600, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote:
The time gets updated from the network
NTP, I assume?
That'd be very much ok.
Thats paroli talking to the frame work before the framework is ready to
respond.
Ok.
I'd prefer digital too and maybe
On May 21, 2009 10:46:54 am Toni Mueller wrote:
There was a dialogue in Paroli where I could adjust the time. There, I
entered the time according to my local time zone, being unaware of the
network time stuff. But I'd prefer to configure an /etc/localtime, like
in any other *nix, too. Doing it
Hi,
[ still exploring the thing w/o much of a clue... ]
On Thu, 21.05.2009 at 17:21:07 +0200, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote:
* Illume (Paroli?) should have a reset to factory setting option,
so I don't have to re-flash in case I made a mistake.
after messing up too much and, as I
On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 07:33:36 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote:
and applying these changes: http://rafb.net/p/upcv1H10.html makes the
this file seems to have vanished. The server gives me a 404.
Yes, but the
Hi,
On Fri, 15.05.2009 at 12:53:22 +0400, Alexey Shvetsov alexx...@gmail.com
wrote:
You can read Cyrillic letters =) but you cannot write them. ticket already
openned for it.
will this work for other languages, too? Eg. Chinese comes to mind...
Are you talking about this ticket?
Hiya,
Toni Mueller wrote:
Hi,
I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;}
Yeah, we want it all :)
Yesterday I felt bold and flashed Om2009t3 onto my phone, but neither
moko11 nor the new u-boot yet, though. Playing around without a SIM
card installed, I found two problems
Hej,
Toni Mueller wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, 15.05.2009 at 12:53:22 +0400, Alexey Shvetsov alexx...@gmail.com
wrote:
You can read Cyrillic letters =) but you cannot write them. ticket already
openned for it.
will this work for other languages, too? Eg. Chinese comes to mind...
Yes in fact
Thank you for advice?
Any chance to make this behavior default for om2009 tr x?
I really appreciate paroli as a main phone application but FR is more
than just a phone after all :)
Max.
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В Вск, 10/05/2009 в 22:24 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa пишет:
¤ I/O really doesn't tell for a normal people that it's actually the call
log..
¤ Msgs could be replaced with SMS, if something short has to be used
¤ Tele also doesn't make sense, I'd suggest using 'Dialer'
As far as I understood it's
Hi,
Max wrote:
As far as I understood it's just a text strings.
Is that possible to change them without actually re-building paroli?
It would be great if I could just edit some configuration file and set
something like:
utf8_str_IO = Call log/Журнал
utf8_str_TELE = Звонилко
utf8_str_MSG
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote:
Hi,
I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;}
Great :)
1. Once in the dialer, I couldn't exit. In the wiki it says: Go to the
main screen of Paroli, then press the AUX button for two seconds. But I
Hi,
On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote:
Toni Mueller wrote:
I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;}
Yeah, we want it all :)
no problem. ;)
1. Once in the dialer, I couldn't exit. In the wiki it says: Go to the
main screen of
Hi,
On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 12:26:46 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
I've been told that you can install the package udev-static-devices to
reduce the boot time by ~30s (but if you have your home on
/media/disk/bind-home, it'll not work, see
Hi Toni
On May 20, 2009 02:11:07 am Toni Mueller wrote:
2. Instead of shutting down, pressing and holding the power button for
an extended period simply powered off the device. I think this is
already known and being worked on, but thought I'd mention it for
completeness.
If you hold the
So far, I didn't really care much for the different keyboards, but if I
can have a wish, I'd like response times like the current keyboard in
Paroli gives (ie, it immediately gives results as fast as I can type),
not as sluggish with 1-2 second pauses between key presses, like in
Om2008.12,
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote:
Hi Toni
On May 20, 2009 02:11:07 am Toni Mueller wrote:
2. Instead of shutting down, pressing and holding the power button for
an extended period simply powered off the device. I think this is
already known and being
Reading that wishes are not encouraged at this time, I'd probably
better not hold my breath, though.
That has changed a bit. We are now encouraging the community to create a wish
list. What we also need the community to do is implement the wish list.
On May 20, 2009 09:14:56 am Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
This is great to hear Angus, that actually OM will also include some
solutions from the community - I guess it means we might have a change
of shipping a more complete distro, not only the very minimal, almost
working stuff. Is there a
2009/5/20 Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com:
Max wrote:
As far as I understood it's just a text strings.
Is that possible to change them without actually re-building paroli?
It would be great if I could just edit some configuration file and set
something like:
utf8_str_IO = Call log/Журнал
Hi,
On Sun, 10.05.2009 at 23:53:48 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
and applying these changes: http://rafb.net/p/upcv1H10.html makes the
this file seems to have vanished. The server gives me a 404.
Kind regards,
--Toni++
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On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, 10.05.2009 at 23:53:48 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
and applying these changes: http://rafb.net/p/upcv1H10.html makes the
this file seems to have vanished. The server gives me a 404.
Yes, but
В Срд, 13/05/2009 в 09:16 -0600, Angus Ainslie пишет:
Hey I just put the lego together you should be thanking Mirko, and the FSO
team.
Sure guys - all kudos - that's foundation.
I hope I'll be able to use all the shiny features one day.
- lock and unlock screen by pressing aux button
AUX
Hello.
Speaking of gui things... Right now (with om2008.12) right after booting
(which takes eons btw :) I can see many colorful icons for programs I
installed with opkg (most of them useless unfortunately). One of the
icons is dialer another messages and third is bookreader.
As far as I
В Срд, 13/05/2009 в 13:35 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa пишет:
Is there are some packages I need to install to achieve it or some
configuration tweaks needed?
Replace the alsa state
What ticket should I track to see when fix will be included into one of
om2009 TR x?
One of the most annoying
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Max m...@darim.com wrote:
Hello.
Speaking of gui things... Right now (with om2008.12) right after booting
(which takes eons btw :) I can see many colorful icons for programs I
installed with opkg (most of them useless unfortunately). One of the
icons is
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Max m...@darim.com wrote:
В Срд, 13/05/2009 в 13:35 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa пишет:
Is there are some packages I need to install to achieve it or some
configuration tweaks needed?
Replace the alsa state
What ticket should I track to see when fix will be
On Пятница 15 мая 2009 12:20:32 Max wrote:
That's probably even more valuable than phone itself.
How do I export sms messages and contacts (both from phone and sim card)
with both English and Cyrillic letters and phone numbers in
international format from om2008.12 to some place e. g. onto my
В Птн, 15/05/2009 в 12:53 +0400, Alexey Shvetsov пишет:
You can read Cyrillic letters =) but you cannot write them. ticket already
openned for it.
Would you point me to link so I can watch for bug status and know
exactly when om2009 ready for real-life testing?
best regards,
Max.
Hej,
Would you point me to link so I can watch for bug status and know
exactly when om2009 ready for real-life testing?
There is basically 2 places:
the paroli trac:
http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/
and the om main trac:
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/
Hope those help, the channel paroli
On Friday 15 May 2009, Max wrote:
В Срд, 13/05/2009 в 13:35 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa пишет:
If so - how to migrate contacts db and sms message archive from
om2008.12 to om2009?
My guess is that you don't.. That's why I never even tried to believe
these would be saved..
That's probably
First of all thank you for hard work Angus.
I'd love to test om2009 but there are several questions I have to
clarify before. The problem is that right now I have to use om2008.12 as
my daily phone (this experience brings new depth into definition of
annoyingly crappy software but that's not the
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Max m...@darim.com wrote:
So before
switching to om2009 TR3 I need to make sure that there are no
regressions which would make my life with FR even worse (it's hard to
imagine but it's possible).
You have to have a system easily flashable.. That's why I built
Hi Max
Thanks Risto for answering some of these.
On May 13, 2009 04:18:47 am Max wrote:
First of all thank you for hard work Angus.
Hey I just put the lego together you should be thanking Mirko, and the FSO
team.
The very essential things I expect from om-whatever are:
- send and receive
Hi all,
I thought I'd share my experiences so far with the testing release. I've
been using QT Extended 4.4.3 as my primary phone for more than 6 months now,
but I decided to try putting the OM2009 TR3 build on my SD card to give it a
shot.
I've only done minimal testing so far - I've been
Hi,
Warren Baird wrote:
Hi all,
I thought I'd share my experiences so far with the testing release.
I've been using QT Extended 4.4.3 as my primary phone for more than 6
months now, but I decided to try putting the OM2009 TR3 build on my SD
card to give it a shot.
Great and thx for
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Warren Baird photogeek...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I thought I'd share my experiences so far with the testing release. I've
been using QT Extended 4.4.3 as my primary phone for more than 6 months now,
but I decided to try putting the OM2009 TR3 build on my
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote:
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 22:24 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
- some mess sometimes in the top of the screen
Yup, please add it to the bug tracker
I'm a bit unsure about this, I reflashed and wasn't able to see it..
I'll
Hi,
thanks for the kind words and the list of issues. We are trying to get
all of them reproduced, so that I can hunt them down :) If you can
reproduce the freezing issues or where the UI crashed, it would be great
if you could open a ticket on http://www.paroli-project.org/trac and
attach
- SMS: When viewing a message, one doesn't see the name of the sender
but the phone number (also when the number is saved in the phone
memory)
- MISC: when not in fullscreen mode (=illume enabled), one can't see
the used profile in the home view
¤ SIM: An option to save messages/numbers to SIM
2009/5/9 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org:
Hi,
Another week of hard work brings a new testing image, lets hear it for the
kernel,
paroli and freesmartphone.org teams. As always it still has some issues ( that
we are still working on )
Some issues important IMHO for daily use:
*) when the
Thanks Risto,
I just finished my review on Sunday and made many of the same points.
The good news is
that (after the long boot) it was very usable as a phone. There were of
course some annoyances
and somethings in the IU paradigm that took some getting use to
Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
Hi!
Johny Tenfinger wrote:
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 22:18, Hans Zimmerman h...@everlasting.be wrote:
My update sequence showed some errors.
Actions executed:
opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli
opkg update
opkg upgrade
opkg install frameworkd paroli
- paroli did not install because of
Angus Ainslie wrote:
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 22:18 +0200, Hans Zimmerman wrote:
My update sequence showed some errors.
Actions executed:
opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli
opkg update
opkg upgrade
opkg install frameworkd paroli
- paroli did not install because of conflict with the
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 09:31, Hans Zimmerman h...@everlasting.be wrote:
-force-depends makes warnings out of errors regarding dependency checks.
I'm personally against overruling errors. If the systems says there is
an error there is an error, if it should be a warning, it should say
it's a
Johny Tenfinger wrote:
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 09:31, Hans Zimmerman h...@everlasting.be wrote:
-force-depends makes warnings out of errors regarding dependency checks.
I'm personally against overruling errors. If the systems says there is
an error there is an error, if it should be a warning,
On Воскресенье 10 мая 2009 09:14:59 Angus Ainslie wrote:
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 00:49 +0400, Alexey Shvetsov wrote:
On Суббота 09 мая 2009 17:36:55 Angus Ainslie wrote:
New feature's in the FSO framework
- Configurable ntp server
- Automatic time setting ( requires GPS
Hi!
Thanks for this new release, really happy to see that only a short
time (a week?) after the previous there's already a new release with
bugs fixed. Release early, release often, as they say :)
I wrote some points below to show what's good, what I concider as
bug/problem and points to
Just to let you know, downloading
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new
and applying these changes: http://rafb.net/p/upcv1H10.html makes the
audio good, as long as you keep the audio level from paroli not higher
than 80 (change the volume with AUX during
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 22:24 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
- some mess sometimes in the top of the screen
Yup, please add it to the bug tracker
- resume doesn't turn on the screen lights - one knows it's resumed
only by touching the screen
please add this too.
- Slow boot time (over 4min
Does non latin symbols in SMS and other apps displays correctly with this
release?
On Суббота 09 мая 2009 17:36:55 Angus Ainslie wrote:
Hi,
Another week of hard work brings a new testing image, lets hear it for the
kernel, paroli and freesmartphone.org teams. As always it still has some
Angus Ainslie wrote:
Hi,
[...]
PS for the power users that would just like to do an opkg update; opkg
upgrade it
won't work. At the very minimum you will need to
opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli
and then reinstall them ( and no -force-reinstall won't be enough )
Why do you
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 16:42 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote:
Angus Ainslie wrote:
Hi,
[...]
PS for the power users that would just like to do an opkg update; opkg
upgrade it
won't work. At the very minimum you will need to
opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli
and then
On Sat, 09 May 2009 07:36:55 -0600
Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org (AA) wrote:
Another week of hard work brings a new testing image, lets hear it for
the kernel, paroli and freesmartphone.org teams. As always it still
has some issues ( that we are still working on )
wow! i haven't tested
Hi,
Petr Vanek wrote:
wow! i haven't tested stability, but the settings app is full of
great features some of them missing in other distros i.e. message
delivery notification and call forwarding. and i big plus - the
responses are really fast.
Glad you like it :) Can you let me know if
Angus Ainslie wrote:
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 16:42 +0100, Christian Gagneraud wrote:
Angus Ainslie wrote:
Hi,
[...]
PS for the power users that would just like to do an opkg update; opkg
upgrade it
won't work. At the very minimum you will need to
opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 22:18, Hans Zimmerman h...@everlasting.be wrote:
My update sequence showed some errors.
Actions executed:
opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli
opkg update
opkg upgrade
opkg install frameworkd paroli
- paroli did not install because of conflict with the file
On Суббота 09 мая 2009 17:36:55 Angus Ainslie wrote:
New feature's in the FSO framework
- Configurable ntp server
- Automatic time setting ( requires GPS or network connection )
- Automatic timezones for mutlizone countries
This dont works =( At least for me
--
Alexey
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 22:18 +0200, Hans Zimmerman wrote:
My update sequence showed some errors.
Actions executed:
opkg remove -force-depends frameworkd paroli
opkg update
opkg upgrade
opkg install frameworkd paroli
- paroli did not install because of conflict with the file
On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 00:49 +0400, Alexey Shvetsov wrote:
On Суббота 09 мая 2009 17:36:55 Angus Ainslie wrote:
New feature's in the FSO framework
- Configurable ntp server
- Automatic time setting ( requires GPS or network connection )
- Automatic timezones for
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