Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-06 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 6/6/07, Sven Neuhaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You could just whip one up in a CAD program and make it available at a 3D-printer store like http://www.rapidobject.com/ for everyone to order. Wow that's a cool service! Is there anything like that in the US?

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-06 Thread adrian cockcroft
Thanks for the link to Rapidobject. Looks like a nice idea. They charge 1.9euro's per cubic centimeter (31 euro's per cubic inch), while techshop.ws charges $10 per cubic inch for 3D printing (plus membership fee that gets access to lots more tools). They also seem to be in Germany rather than Cal

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-06 Thread Sven Neuhaus
adrian cockcroft wrote: > Or invert the problem, instead of buttons, make holes. The touch > sensitive surface is exposed through the holes, and you can feel which > hole you are poking at. A relatively stiff transparent cover with holes > in is easy to make ( techshop.ws laser

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-05 Thread adrian cockcroft
Or invert the problem, instead of buttons, make holes. The touch sensitive surface is exposed through the holes, and you can feel which hole you are poking at. A relatively stiff transparent cover with holes in is easy to make (techshop.ws laser cutter :-) and clip onto the face of the phone. Adr

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-05 Thread Joe Friedrichsen
On 6/5/07, Bradley Hook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steven Milburn wrote: > Personally, I'd like to see a touchscreen with some type of ability to > raise > dimples at any point under software control. Kind of like a braille reader > on acid. If only such a thing existed. (does it?) One word: e

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-05 Thread Bradley Hook
Steven Milburn wrote: > Personally, I'd like to see a touchscreen with some type of ability to > raise > dimples at any point under software control. Kind of like a braille reader > on acid. If only such a thing existed. (does it?) One word: expensive. Refreshable Braille displays do exist, and

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-05 Thread michael
Someone was telling me about a nano technology that could do this, but it's not anywhere near a product yet. But a good application might accelerate the transition from lab to product. Wish I could remember where I heard that... Another one I heard about was a way of generating a location-specifi

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-05 Thread Steven Milburn
Well, Bradely's suggestion included making the flip transparent. If it's transparent, the button definitions can still be on the screen, instead of written on the buttons themselves. Now the only thing that is fixed is the shape of the button matrix. Personally, I'd like to see a touchscreen wi

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-05 Thread Dylan McCall
A problem with the buttons layer is that now we have something very oriented towards one specific situation, so it seems less friendly for random development of stuff, such as full-screen games without actual buttons. Of course this cover would probably be removable, but if it were to happen it w

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-05 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 15:16:30 Thomas Gstädtner wrote: > You are right, and that was before some years. They used this concept in > the whole P-Series except the newest one (P990i) afaik. For all I can tell, my P900 uses REAL buttons pushing them makes nothing come out of the back of the flip,

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-05 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
You are right, and that was before some years. They used this concept in the whole P-Series except the newest one (P990i) afaik. 2007/6/5, kenneth marken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Bradley Hook wrote: > A possible solution for this has been discussed under an accessibility > thread. The Maestro is a

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-05 Thread Peter A Trotter
On 05/06/07, kenneth marken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bradley Hook wrote: > A possible solution for this has been discussed under an accessibility > thread. The Maestro is a simple (yet effective) clip-on cover for > PocketPCs. There are a few different versions of it, which work with > various

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-05 Thread kenneth marken
Bradley Hook wrote: A possible solution for this has been discussed under an accessibility thread. The Maestro is a simple (yet effective) clip-on cover for PocketPCs. There are a few different versions of it, which work with various different brands and models of PocketPCs. Check out a picture a

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-04 Thread Bradley Hook
A possible solution for this has been discussed under an accessibility thread. The Maestro is a simple (yet effective) clip-on cover for PocketPCs. There are a few different versions of it, which work with various different brands and models of PocketPCs. Check out a picture at: http://www.engadget

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-04 Thread Chris Palmer
Interesting ideas, but I'm not sure that any adequately handle the tactile needs of a touch typist. Without looking at the keys, I can feel the nubs on the home keys on my phone's mini qwerty to get lined up again. I also have the same concern with using a laser projected keyboard (even tho p

Re: concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-02 Thread Dylan McCall
Hey, nice to see this discussion! I've wondered about this before, too :) A touch screen thimble, or a thing embedded in the end of a stylus, would allow for tactile feedback while also supporting an existing necessary feature (that is, touching a touch screen without smudging it, or at least writ

Re: concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-02 Thread Jon Phillips
On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 13:35 -0700, Matthew S. Hamrick wrote: > Well... for a while I was thinking about implanting a strong magnet > under the skin in one of my fingers to detect alternating current. > There are a few people out there who have done this and they say they > can feel a very mild wigg

Re: concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-02 Thread Matthew S. Hamrick
Well... for a while I was thinking about implanting a strong magnet under the skin in one of my fingers to detect alternating current. There are a few people out there who have done this and they say they can feel a very mild wiggle when the magnet comes near a wire carrying AC. It might be

Re: concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-02 Thread Jon Phillips
On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 12:53 -0700, Matthew S. Hamrick wrote: > It's interesting.. here in the states, people really love the tactile > feedback you get with a "real" keyboard. But I've heard several > people say that touch screens are quite popular in Asia. If so, that > might explain why Ben

Re: concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-02 Thread Matthew S. Hamrick
It's interesting.. here in the states, people really love the tactile feedback you get with a "real" keyboard. But I've heard several people say that touch screens are quite popular in Asia. If so, that might explain why BenQ (and not Motorola) did this design and maybe Apple is thinking ab

concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-02 Thread michael
From our friends at SVHMPC, A concept phone that is one big touchscreen, not unlike Neo1973. Interesting point: "One issue keeping touchscreen concepts like this from becoming a reality is the tactile-feedback issue" so I think we are right on the mark with the discussions of and proposed solut