Re: Anyone, not billed yet?
Everyone that's still waiting, take heart. My shipment (#1930) was shipped three days ago, and I just now got the email. Mind you, the email was sentthree days ago, so I don't know why it took so long to reach me. In short, your phone just might be halfway to you before you realize it :P -- CRB Let me introduce you to my very own DMCA-protected encryption key: BC 1B 64 4A 8D DE 49 E8 C3 7D CC EE 1A AD EE F5 (compliments of Freedom-to-Tinker http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=1155) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VMWare-Image (again)
Eric's VMware image should be available to download later today at: http://openmoko.solutiontrax.net/Openmoko_Dev.zip Thanks Eric. Sébastien and any other mirror volunteers welcome. I'll be away until Monday but I'll try to check that it's working this evening (~19:00 BST). On Tuesday 07 August 2007 17:01, Al Johnson wrote: I should be able to arrange hosting sometime tomorrow. If I don't get back to you with details then remind me :-) On Tuesday 07 August 2007 16:15, Eric Heinemann wrote: If someone will host the 2gb+ file, I can provide an Ubuntu VMWare image that I made several months ago. A few people have downloaded it, and I am not sure how well it works for actual development. I was able to compile everything using MokoMakefile and run the qemu image it produced. -Eric - Original Message From: Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 9:56:38 AM Subject: Re: VMWare-Image (again) There is QEmu images at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ OpenMoko_under_QEMU . QEMU is a generic and open source machine emulator and virtualizer: http://www.qemu.org/ True, but answers the wrong question. The question is whether there is a virtual machine image of an entire configured build system, similar to the one for the Neuros OSD. AFAIK the answer is no. I was going to make one using qemu and ubuntu, but other things got in the way and I won't have the time again before September. This isn't much help I know, but I'm doing just this - setting up a Parallels image for GP2X developers - for the GP2X handheld gaming console .. maybe I should consider merging openmoko into the same image while I'm at it .. probably a good idea .. j. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
test message
Marc Verwerft wrote: Robin Paulson wrote: is anyone else not getting messages from the list again? i see plenty *at lists.openmoko.org from yesterday, but i've received nothing for 24 **hours now? * I'm not getting anything either for 2 days now ... Same here... also, more importantly :P , my shipment notification from 8/6 did not arrive until this morning 8/9. Perhaps openmoko email system slowdown is going on? -- CRB Let me introduce you to my very own DMCA-protected encryption key: BC 1B 64 4A 8D DE 49 E8 C3 7D CC EE 1A AD EE F5 (compliments of Freedom-to-Tinker http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=1155) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing a new kernel under Mac OS X
For other's future reference, I was able to find the dfu-util executable within the OS X .app package for OpenMoko Flasher and use that. On 8/8/07, Igor Foox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've successfully used Nikolaus Schaller's AJZaurusUSB and OpenMoko Flasher applications to flash a new rootfs onto my new Neo. But I can't flash a new kernel into it. When I try flashing a kernel with OpenMoko Flasher it tries to write it into the rootfs partition instead of the kernel partition. I currently don't have access to a computer running linux natively, so I can't use dfu-util directly. Any suggestions on how to get a new kernel on the device? Thanks, Igor ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: test message
Me too, cannot get message from all of openmoko lists too. I don't know what's happen. Maybe the maintainers can give us an answer! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VMWare-Image (again)
I just downloaded it from http://openmoko.montgoss.com/ whats the root password? thankS! If someone will host the 2gb+ file, I can provide an Ubuntu VMWare image that I made several months ago. A few people have downloaded it, and I am not sure how well it works for actual development. I was able to compile everything using MokoMakefile and run the qemu image it produced. -Eric - Original Message From: Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 9:56:38 AM Subject: Re: VMWare-Image (again) There is QEmu images at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ OpenMoko_under_QEMU . QEMU is a generic and open source machine emulator and virtualizer: http://www.qemu.org/ True, but answers the wrong question. The question is whether there is a virtual machine image of an entire configured build system, similar to the one for the Neuros OSD. AFAIK the answer is no. I was going to make one using qemu and ubuntu, but other things got in the way and I won't have the time again before September. This isn't much help I know, but I'm doing just this - setting up a Parallels image for GP2X developers - for the GP2X handheld gaming console .. maybe I should consider merging openmoko into the same image while I'm at it .. probably a good idea .. j. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Resetting the icon theme
Hi all, When I first booted the phone after flashing the kernel + rootfs, I didn't calibrate the touch screen properly, and then when trying to mess around with the stylus I somehow managed to mess up the gnome theme. The current state is that there are no icons showing up and instead I have little icons with an 'x' in them indicating that there is no icon. I couldn't find any information about this on the wiki or mailing list. Does anyone have any idea how I could reset this? (Reflashing the rootfs does not seem to affect it, neither does removing all the .* files in /home/root). Thanks, Igor ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Incorrect UPS tracking numbers?
I had a similar problem, only my package didn't exist. When I called UPS they said there was an extra character in my tracking number and it was invalid. I tried removing each character one by one until I got the right one. I guess it might be something different in your case because your number is actually a valid one. Igor On 7-Aug-07, at 3:33 PM, Roland Dreier wrote: I just got my Your order has shipped! email (yay!), but the UPS tracking number included showed a package signed for by Mike (not my name) in San Ramon, CA, (not where my address is). Did that happen to anyone else? Since I'm also in the San Francisco Bay area, I'm hoping my package will already be delivered too when I get home ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VMWare-Image (again)
Eric's VMWare image is available for download at: http://openmoko.montgoss.com/ This is a hosted site that has a monthly bandwidth limit, so please only download if you really need it. If we exceed the monthly bandwidth, I'll have to remove the file. -Steven On 8/7/07, Eric Heinemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone will host the 2gb+ file, I can provide an Ubuntu VMWare image that I made several months ago. A few people have downloaded it, and I am not sure how well it works for actual development. I was able to compile everything using MokoMakefile and run the qemu image it produced. -Eric ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Login Manager
Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, This is w.r.t. having a login manager for OpenMoko. I am not sure how other PDA phones implement login access, but, in the Nokia 6210 classic, even without the SIM card, it simply allows access to the phone, organizer applications, and data. So, if the phone is lost, valuable information will be stolen, which is something end-users don't like. So far, virtually no phones protect USER data well enough.Actually, proprietary phones are doing some job at protecting their firmwares from hacking and pretty powerful protection in operator locking part, etc.And er, virtually no protection of user data.While locks, etc are encrypted and heavily checksummed\signed, user's data are stored as is.So anyone with physical access to phone can quite easily dump your private data if they' really want to.Basically this can be done by just over wires.At very most (uncooperative boot loader, etc), they have to use JTAG or desolder flash IC.Not a great deal for pros.So, once you lost the phone you have no reasons to feel your data too secure.They are not secure. And user's phone code often implemented in very lame manner - usually it is trivial to remove it or dump it's value.So, no, if you your lost phone, phonecode will rather cause it to be removed and phone never returned to you.While fair people will be effectively prevented from contacting you.So this can even work against phone owner. I can see two different approaches here. 1) You care about your data and do not care too much about phone is returned to you. The real way to protect all user data from unauthorized use in quite powerful manner is to use file system encryption.This will make all things protected.Phone book, calendar, notes and all your files.This costs though. Filesystem will be slower and due to heavy CPU use battery will exhaust faster. Everything has it's price, privacy too. If someone is willing to implement this ever, there is funny hint, just invented by me: long password is pain in the ass to type at boot time.And short password is easy to bruteforce. So, you can store long encryption key in SIM as phone number and name in SIM address book.Access to SIM is protected by short PIN which is hard to brute since you only have 3 attempts to go and SIM is pretty secure thing :).So user have to enter just short PIN but this will cause powerful encryption key to become accessible from SIM's address book.And those who do not know pin will not have access to this key since SIM cards are refusing address book access without entering proper PIN code IIRC. This can make data pretty secure.But... evil persons will just erase all this and reload factory flash image so they can use the phone.Good persons will be prevented from contacting you up to some degree since phone gives no access to address book.Idea with displaying your contact info on boot splash\password request screen can help though. 2) You do care about phone return and do not care too much about unauthorised data access. Then another approach can be good: phone should allow all access to all data as usually, any SIM should be OK, etc.Recommended setting is no PIN and no phonecode.But it should silently send it's coordinates to let's say, e-mail to your mailbox or SMSes to a friendly number(your second phone number or friend, etc).SMSes will also expose bad guy's phone number to you (your friend, etc).So, bad guys can use phone and access all your data.But it will silently track them a bit so you can return your phone easily.Actually there should be no restrictions in data access or features.Otherwise phone will be reflashed by evil people and tracking will be stopped so your chances to find your phone will become pretty low (IMEI tracking is proven to be quite ineffective since not each and every operator on the planet does this and they're cooperate poorly enough). Well this will leave all or some data accessible to bad guys.Tracking their location and new SIM's phone number in exchange. I see no effective way to combine these 2 different goals.One is prevents access to data but this will enforce bad guys to do full reflashing.Killing your (unusable) data but getting working (usable) phone.Another approach makes guys to believe phone is not defends itself and not secured.While it really silently tracks evildoers. I read this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/My_Account I put together few points on the login manager: http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/openmoko/docs/login-manager.pdf I am not sure if I have missed any user scenarios. Thoughts/suggestions/feedback appreciated. Just replace .pdf to .odt in the above to get the OpenOffice document. If login access has already been addressed in OpenMoko, please let me know. I hope this is clarified before mass market. Thanks, Shakthi ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org
test message
Robin Paulson wrote: is anyone else not getting messages from the list again? i see plenty at lists.openmoko.org from yesterday, but i've received nothing for 24 hours now? I'm not getting anything either for 2 days now ... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VMWare-Image (again)
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, S??bastien Lorquet wrote: Okay the first image is bitorrenting at: http://tracker.unsads.com/torrents-details.php?id=3 I'm now leeching, then I'll be another seed... in roughly 18 hrs it looks like. -Andy___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing a new kernel under Mac OS X
2007/8/8, Igor Foox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've successfully used Nikolaus Schaller's AJZaurusUSB and OpenMoko Flasher applications to flash a new rootfs onto my new Neo. But I can't flash a new kernel into it. When I try flashing a kernel with OpenMoko Flasher it tries to write it into the rootfs partition instead of the kernel partition. I currently don't have access to a computer running linux natively, so I can't use dfu-util directly. Any suggestions on how to get a new kernel on the device? What command do you use to flash kernel? I am also struggling with dfu-util on Mac: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/OpenMoko Flasher-1.app/Contents/MacOS/Sources/dfu-util/src$ sudo ./dfu-util -a 3 -R -D /Users/cayco/Downloads/uImage-2.6.21.6-moko10-r1_0_0_2388_0-fic-gta01.bin dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Found Runtime: [0x1457:0x5119] devnum=0, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=kernel Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Cannot set alternate interface: usb_set_altinterface: could not set alternate interface I use AJZaurusUSB 0.5.3 cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
List not Working??
Has the list died? Nothing for three days now. mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Sean interviewed at LinuxWorld
Have you guys seen this interview with Sean : http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/080207-portrait-of-a-linux-iphone-ki ller.html It's very interesting look at what he sees this device becoming. Gareth If I give a man a fish, I feed him for one day. If I hit him with the fish, he's not going to come and ask me for anything ever again. This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Flashing a new kernel under Mac OS X
Hi, I've successfully used Nikolaus Schaller's AJZaurusUSB and OpenMoko Flasher applications to flash a new rootfs onto my new Neo. But I can't flash a new kernel into it. When I try flashing a kernel with OpenMoko Flasher it tries to write it into the rootfs partition instead of the kernel partition. I currently don't have access to a computer running linux natively, so I can't use dfu-util directly. Any suggestions on how to get a new kernel on the device? Thanks, Igor ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 Phase 1 sales / order process / misconception
Having my own business, I can begin to understand the position of FIC and their small team trying to process a seemingly endless list of emails on top of processing the standard orders. They don't have fringe departments, or employees for that matter. No one to sit down and just politely respond to order inquires all day, every day. They are overworked, strained, crazy (just like all of us here :) ) people that love what they do-and will do whatever they can to help us take back the mobile phone industry. Frankly, they deserve one helluva bonus at the end of this year, although they would probably be happier if a working Neo was in consumers' hands... Think about it for a second: all of us who are part of an organization that use email as an official means of communication essentially check/answer our emails almost every day, and it takes ridiculously long. How many emails have _you_ received today from someone asking about an update? On the other hand, I can understand the gotta-have-it-right-now feeling of everyone who does not have a Neo. Many are itching and screaming for their uber-geek handheld, so an update every other day or so isn't out of the question. Andy makes a good point about how some are feeling: People just want some sort of information or report on what is *generally* happening with regard to orders. Indeed, to paraphrase Michael J Fox,: ...They're so thirsty for it, they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand.. And, as Harald said, we are all developers (FIC employees included) trying to work together, so let's try to act as such... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VMWare-Image (again)
When DNS propagation is complete, both images will be available at http://mirrors.unsads.com/openmoko 2007/8/9, Eric Heinemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ubuntu does not use a root password. User: openmoko Pass: openmoko Let me know if you have any problems. I will attempt to help when possible. I am in the process of buying a new place and moving, so I might not answer right away. -Eric - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Eric Heinemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2007 3:56:51 PM Subject: Re: VMWare-Image (again) I just downloaded it from http://openmoko.montgoss.com/ whats the root password? thankS! If someone will host the 2gb+ file, I can provide an Ubuntu VMWare image that I made several months ago. A few people have downloaded it, and I am not sure how well it works for actual development. I was able to compile everything using MokoMakefile and run the qemu image it produced. -Eric - Original Message From: Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2007 9:56:38 AM Subject: Re: VMWare-Image (again) There is QEmu images at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ OpenMoko_under_QEMU . QEMU is a generic and open source machine emulator and virtualizer: http://www.qemu.org/ True, but answers the wrong question. The question is whether there is a virtual machine image of an entire configured build system, similar to the one for the Neuros OSD. AFAIK the answer is no. I was going to make one using qemu and ubuntu, but other things got in the way and I won't have the time again before September. This isn't much help I know, but I'm doing just this - setting up a Parallels image for GP2X developers - for the GP2X handheld gaming console .. maybe I should consider merging openmoko into the same image while I'm at it .. probably a good idea .. j. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sébastien LORQUET - 이세영 (李世榮) Ingénieur ENSPG 2006 / ENSIMAG-ASI 2007 -- Sébastien LORQUET - 이세영 (李世榮) Ingénieur ENSPG 2006 / ENSIMAG-ASI 2007 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Resetting the icon theme
Hi, On 8/10/07, Igor Foox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I first booted the phone after flashing the kernel + rootfs, I didn't calibrate the touch screen properly ssh and run /usr/bin/ts_calibrate on the phone? SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Chinese input for OpenMoko
Hello, OpenMoko is developed and produced in Taiwan. And I live in HK. Both places uses Chinese as the common language. I'm just curious if there is any plan for Neo1973 to support Chinese input? If so, in what way? Hand-writing input? Or keyboard input method? Koala Yeung ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
openmoko at CCC
http://www.flickr.com/photos/geektechnique/1072377240/in/pool-cccamp07/ sorry if someone already posted this. pc -- Paolo Cavallini, see: http://www.faunalia.it/pc signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Incorrect UPS tracking numbers?
I've just received my package, and everything is good! However, there was a pretty weird incident in the process. Thursday, I was phoned on my job by the driver who would deliver the package to me. He couldn't deliver it because I wasn't home, and he required that I confirmed my identity, so I just told him that I'd pick it up myself at the nearest UPS the next day. However, the next day, Friday, the same driver phoned me again, telling me that he had _another_ package for me. He was pretty confident that this was not the same package, as it had another size (was smaller) than the first one. When I showed up at UPS, I asked them if they had two packages for me, but the tracking number that I'd received only showed up one package, which indeed did contain everything I had ordered. I'm now afraid that another persons package has been sent to me by accident. If anyone has a tracking number that shows them that their package is heading for TAASTRUP, DK (Denmark), I think I might know where it is. -Ulrik On Tuesday 07 August 2007 21:33:25 Roland Dreier wrote: I just got my Your order has shipped! email (yay!), but the UPS tracking number included showed a package signed for by Mike (not my name) in San Ramon, CA, (not where my address is). Did that happen to anyone else? Since I'm also in the San Francisco Bay area, I'm hoping my package will already be delivered too when I get home ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Import Duty - I have refused my delivery.
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 13:20 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, speaking as someone who imports electronic components and peripherals for prototype systems from the US all the time, I do know what to expect when I import. Good, then you know that you provide Customs (via the shipping company) your VAT registration number and then you're not liable for the VAT. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Import Duty - I have refused my delivery.
On 08/03/2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] the US all the time, I do know what to expect when I import. Importation of computer devices and peripherals to the EU is indeed both VAT and import duty exempt - it appears that the description of the goods, compounded with the value statement, has led to this issue. It is indeed OpenMoko's error in not understanding the rules and I hold them responsible for not disclosing that fact. David, I'm sorry for your troubles. We are doing our best to get these devices to everyone as fast and (under the current circumstances) as cheap as we can. I can assure you that the harmonized code is correct on the invoice. Also, these are standard UPS Worldship invoices, so I'm really at a loss as to what we did wrong. Please let me know what exactly what our mistake was and I will personally make sure this is fixed. We're committed to getting these kind of issues resolved so phase 2 can be a really smooth experience for everyone. So I really need your help here. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing a new kernel under Mac OS X
Am 08.08.2007 um 13:01 schrieb Igor Foox: Hi, I've successfully used Nikolaus Schaller's AJZaurusUSB and OpenMoko Flasher applications to flash a new rootfs onto my new Neo. But I can't flash a new kernel into it. When I try flashing a kernel with OpenMoko Flasher it tries to write it into the rootfs partition instead of the kernel partition. I currently don't have access to a computer running linux natively, so I Appears to be a bug that I have not discovered myself since I did not (yet) try to flash a kernel... I will look at it. can't use dfu-util directly. Any suggestions on how to get a new kernel on the device? Nikolaus ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re:Resetting the icon theme
Igor Foox writes: When I first booted the phone after flashing the kernel + rootfs, I didn't calibrate the touch screen properly, and then when trying to mess around with the stylus I somehow managed to mess up the gnome theme. The current state is that there are no icons showing up and instead I have little icons with an 'x' in them indicating that there is no icon. Those are I couldn't find the pixmap for this icon icons. Try a reboot -- I've got absolutely no idea why, but I sometimes see the icons in that state when I boot, but then a reboot brings them up properly. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dropbear: exit status of remote shell not properly returned to client
See here: MacBook-hns:~ hns$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 false ; echo $? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 255 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 0 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 255 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 255 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ true; echo $? 0 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ true; echo $? 0 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ true; echo $? 0 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ false; echo $? 1 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ false; echo $? 1 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ false; echo $? 1 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 0 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 0 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 255 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 255 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 255 MacBook-hns:~ hns$ Am 11.08.2007 um 09:05 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Does anybody have the same experience? The symptom is that I sometimes get the correct exit status and sometimes a 255 - for the same repeated command. i.e.: $ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? 0 $ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $? 255 Using ssh -vvv shows that the debug message: debug1: client_input_channel_req: channel 0 rtype exit-status reply 0 is missing if ssh returns 255, i.e. dropbear does *not* provide the exit status and the client substitutes -1. This appears to me to be the same bug as in the Changelog (although OpenMoko komes with version 0.49) 0.44 - Mon Jan 3 2005 - Avoid a race in server shell-handling code which prevents the exit-code from being returned to the client in some circumstances. Does anybody know a fix or is dropbear broken? Or is OpenSSH available for OpenMoko? Nikolaus ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean interviewed at LinuxWorld
On 11 Aug 2007, at 19:54, Steven ** wrote: Quoth the article: However, Moss-Pultz said he is confident that the extreme openness of the OpenMoko platform will attract developers and that the developers' applications will attract users. Initially, it'll be for savvy users and people who have used open-source products like Firefox, he said. But I think we're just six months away from being mainstream. When you allow the user to put exactly what they want on the device, you exponentially increase the device's value. I'm confident we can do it. 6 months? That's a good sign that they aren't expecting too much of a delay for GTA02! Typical Gartner response in that interview. Who are these industry analysts anyway? they just seem to state the obvious. Smartphones aren't mainstream, aren't they like 25% of the market maximum? You need to be over 50% to be even considered mainstream. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo1973 Phase 1 sales / order process / misconception
Steven ** wrote: snip To summarize: The current delay is not getting phones manufactured. It is dealing with all the orders and status requests they are receiving. No news is good news! I suspect that 99% of people would be completely satisfied with a one-line status message from each core-team member, each week. We do not expect rapid updates, or lengthy emails. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
