Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-12 Thread Marc Bantle
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: 1. how many people want this? +1 2. does anyone in the community step up and compile the distribution for GTA01? (there will be some work: size reduction, GPS chip, etc) I'd be fine with a tar.gz - image to put on SD-card. So size reduction is not necessarily an

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

2008-08-12 Thread Robert William Hutton
Geoff Ruscoe wrote: Everything looks great now. Except I still don't have the Auto Center button anymore. Anybody else having this problem? Yep. I fixed it; you just have to slightly reduce the x and y thickness in the toolitem stanza of your gtkrc. Here's the patch: ---

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - how to do gpsd?

2008-08-12 Thread Erland Lewin
How did you guys handle the gpsd for TangoGPS under 2008.8? I thought 2008.8 used gypsy or a dbus-based gpsd or something. Will installing gpsd conflict with whichever gypsy-solution is used on 2008.8? Which gpsd package did you install, if that's what you did? Thanks for the gtk files! /Erland

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

2008-08-12 Thread Bastian Feder
Hi, has anyone reported this back to the TangoGPS developer(s)? Would be nice if the changes will be included into the *.ipk. just my 5 cents hf Bastian On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geoff Ruscoe wrote: Everything looks great now. Except I

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-ba sed Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-12 Thread Urivan Saaib
Paul, Congratulations! This is a great advance feature. I'll be using it a lot! Regards, ==Original message text=== On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 0:35:39 PDT Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Hi, As Google Summer of Code 2008 is almost at its end, here's a video showing what you should

Re: FR and debian, seems it's progressing

2008-08-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is what I'm looking forward to. Something like this was what I always expected to have;). A great distro like debian just getting a GSM daemon that other apps could talk to. Just for the record: I just made a successful call on debian. Only hit a few

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - how to do gpsd?

2008-08-12 Thread Robert William Hutton
Erland Lewin wrote: How did you guys handle the gpsd for TangoGPS under 2008.8? I thought 2008.8 used gypsy or a dbus-based gpsd or something. Will installing gpsd conflict with whichever gypsy-solution is used on 2008.8? Which gpsd package did you install, if that's what you did? I'm not

Re: Battery Charge Solution(Not)

2008-08-12 Thread Russell Sears
Scott wrote: I attempted to install the two solutions to the Neo FreeRunner not charging when connected to a laptop or car charger. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode Even though both sources can easily handle a 500ma charge. You shouldn't need to do anything special

Re: camera for freerunner (was Re: What will be in GTA03?)

2008-08-12 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Tim Schmidt wrote: | On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I don't think people will be willing to pay an extra $200 just to get a camera in there. | Please do some

Re: FR and debian, seems it's progressing

2008-08-12 Thread Thomas Bertani
2008/8/12 Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is what I'm looking forward to. Something like this was what I always expected to have;). A great distro like debian just getting a GSM daemon that other apps could talk to. Just for the record: I

Status of GTA3

2008-08-12 Thread NEUHOLD, Michael
Hi all I'm new on this list, so please don't blame me if I'm off-topic Does anyone know the current developmentstate of the GTA03? I have read something about end of 2008. I wish but cant believe that this is true. Does anyone know mor details? regards Michael

OM2008.8 lint-wifi and other pygtk apps fail

2008-08-12 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, i tried installing lint-wifi (and mofi) and both of them return: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# export DISPLAY=:0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lint-wifi.py Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/lint-wifi.py, line 9, in module import gtk, os File

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-12 Thread David Pottage
On Mon, August 11, 2008 6:09 pm, Ilja O. wrote: I've got confirmation @ Jul 24 Your item has been shipped message @ Jul 28 And received it today (11 Aug). That's in Europe. Quite slow, but you'll eventually get it. I got mine yesterday, about a month after I ordered, so yes, very slow. I

Re: OM2008.8 lint-wifi and other pygtk apps fail

2008-08-12 Thread NeilBrown
On Tue, August 12, 2008 7:14 pm, Florian Lohoff wrote: Hi, i tried installing lint-wifi (and mofi) and both of them return: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# export DISPLAY=:0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lint-wifi.py Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/lint-wifi.py, line 9, in module

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-12 Thread Hendrik Strydom
My wish list: 3G, or at least UMTS On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 15:34 +0100, Monkey D. Luffy wrote: (no reply so far... so a little bump) This is more or less my wish list... So what will be in? 1) camera (decent one, 3MP or more) Will it be possible to record movies with sound? What

Re: What will be in GTA03?

2008-08-12 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hendrik Strydom wrote: My wish list: 3G, or at least UMTS 3g != UMTS ? (I thing you wanted to say EDGE :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Where are the Om2008.8 Updates?

2008-08-12 Thread carcinoma
Hello, i have the Om2008.8 on my device. But over the Insteller Update function never recieved any updateable Packages, also over the opkg manual update upgrade (i pushed nameserver to /etc/resolv.conf) . So, there ist a problem with the battery charge level (it only shows the blizzard) and

Re: Spares - broken case or LCD, ...

2008-08-12 Thread John Koenig
I can only speak to the screens as that is the only bit of my phone that I have broken so far. :P There are two companies that I was able to find (in China) that sell the TD028TTEC1 touch screen, they are listed below: http://www.qinyielectronics.com http://www.iiparts.com I only heard back

Re: Could someone explain me the + + + and the * at the bottom of thescreen (Om 2008.8) ?

2008-08-12 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:43 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are place holders. In due course the functionality will be defined and deployed. Good enough. How do I remove them / configure them away until you announce that they will do something useful? The * button is for

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

2008-08-12 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I have contacted the developer (not about this though) to ask if there is a svn repo or something for the community to participate. He (Marcus Bauer) answered that there only the source codes of releases are available currently, he's been developing tango only as a local copy. To create a wider

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-12 Thread arne anka
probably work well for something with a flat face like an iPod, but I they got several vidoes showing how you make the protector fit even corners and curves. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-12 Thread Stroller
On 5 Aug 2008, at 15:55, Stroller wrote: On 5 Aug 2008, at 13:56, Mikael Berthe wrote: I ordered an InvibleShield protection at Zagg.com for my freerunner the 18th of july and have been charged on my credit card but have no news about my order (despite the fact that I sent them emails !!)

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-12 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Hi Chris, Am Montag 11 August 2008 18:39:14 schrieb C R McClenaghan: There have now been several posts related to the successful use of GPRS on one or more of the software platforms - OM 200*.* and FSO - but not much discussion of how to multiplex voice and data calls. The FSO platform

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-12 Thread xaos x
I actually finally got it working by using the article from freeyourphone that uses the multiplexing package. http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295start=0st=0sk=tsd=asid=dda5c6cbf5850182c786488123f056ce It will receive calls and make calls while connected to GPRS using this

Fitting full-body InvisibleShield - order of application?

2008-08-12 Thread Stroller
Hi there, I'm sure someone posted a week or two ago a suggestion to do certain sections first when fitting the full-body InvisibleShield, because they said it's easier that way. I _think_ they mentioned that the sides are particularly fiddly and to do them first. Or was it last? I'm

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-12 Thread Jay Vaughan
I'd be fine with a tar.gz - image to put on SD-card. So size reduction is not necessarily an issue. Actually I'd rather have the complete 2008.08 suite. How are other GTA01 users thinc about that? Marc I like the idea too .. and I'm perfectly content with booting my neo1973 from SD card

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-12 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An update: my order arrived yesterday. It looks like it is the original shipment from 7/7/8 and it arrived on 11/8/8 (European date ordering). This is on the 7-11 business-day shipping, so only 20 or so overdue. I'm sure the

Re: Fitting full-body InvisibleShield - order of application?

2008-08-12 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
On Tuesday 12 August 2008, Stroller wrote: Hi there, I'm sure someone posted a week or two ago a suggestion to do certain sections first when fitting the full-body InvisibleShield, because they said it's easier that way. I had to repeatedly hard reset the FR by ripping out the battery. How

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-12 Thread Kevin Zuber
Am Dienstag, den 12.08.2008, 16:13 +0200 schrieb Christ van Willegen: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An update: my order arrived yesterday. It looks like it is the original shipment from 7/7/8 and it arrived on 11/8/8 (European date ordering). This

Re: Request for help: Would like community applications to show anddiscuss at LinuxWorld

2008-08-12 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all Finally I am near to the finish line, I think I missed linux world, but in the end I made something that could be useful for someone: I opened a project in launchpad: http://launchpad.net/ogino-gtk Until now this program is available only

Re: Fitting full-body InvisibleShield - order of application?

2008-08-12 Thread arne anka
handle that with the full body IS? have a look at the website and check for what they mean with full body. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Fitting full-body InvisibleShield - order of application?

2008-08-12 Thread Stephen Shelton
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 02:44:56PM +0100, Stroller wrote: I _think_ they mentioned that the sides are particularly fiddly and to do them first. Or was it last? I'm knackered if I can find their post now, but if anyone has any suggestions before I proceed to foul it all up I'd be

Re: python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-12 Thread Bumbl
someone @irc had a look on the wicd code and told me that huge parts have to be rewritten to run it with the openmoko wicd assumes for example that a wireless interface has to be named wlan0 Christian Weßel wrote: Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 17:58 +0200 schrieb Rorschach: What happenbs if

Re: Fitting full-body InvisibleShield - order of application?

2008-08-12 Thread Vinc Duran
I didn't place the original post but I was thinking I should. It took a long time for me to get the full body protection on. Here's my recommendation. - Take the battery out - Reassemble the unit - Install all side strips - Install the back - Install the front - Install the

[QUESTION]openmoko 2008.8, size?

2008-08-12 Thread Thomas Bertani
Hi. How many megabytes needs the asu? Thx, sorry for my bad english ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: python on FR, need a little help

2008-08-12 Thread Christian Weßel
Am Dienstag, den 12.08.2008, 16:45 +0200 schrieb Bumbl: someone @irc had a look on the wicd code and told me that huge parts have to be rewritten to run it with the openmoko wicd assumes for example that a wireless interface has to be named wlan0 That problem is solved. I got the latest

Re: Status of GTA3

2008-08-12 Thread Steven Kurylo
Does anyone know the current developmentstate of the GTA03? I have read something about end of 2008. I wish but cant believe that this is true. Does anyone know mor details? There are no details. Anything you read is complete conjecture. ___

Re: InvibleShield at ZAGG : swindling ?!?

2008-08-12 Thread Steven **
I dunno. I started regretting not ordering the full body protector the other day. Right after my Freerunner slipped out of my hand as I got out of my car. Hit some nice hard concrete. Now it has several scuffs/divots along the sides. :-( The good news is, the Freerunner is the first phone

Re: Could someone explain me the + + + and the * at the bottom of thescreen (Om 2008.8) ?

2008-08-12 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
1. if special is smth to be used frequently then now * got the worst place -- with finger it is nearly impossible to press in the left bottom corner -- just try 2. in most of the situations those placeholders are EMPTY, so why to keep them? may be there is a reasonable solution (not too much

Re: New user saying hi

2008-08-12 Thread Chris Barnard
- Original Message - From: Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've bought a Neo Freerunner and debug board - all looks pretty good so far. This is my first real use of Linux and I'm beginning to feel like I'm throwing myself off the deep end a bit, but

Re: FR and debian, seems it's progressing

2008-08-12 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Just for the record: I just made a successful call on debian. Only hit cool! can you receive calls? ;-) In case anybody is interested the process listing looks like ginger:~# ps axf PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND we better get hands on your /etc (/etc/apt in particular) and dpkg

Any progress on the white screen of death problem?

2008-08-12 Thread Rorschach
Hi, I think my FR with 2008.8 is nearly ready for daily usage. The only thing which is stopping this, is the white screen of death problem. So when I suspend for more than 5min or so I can't resume. It always just gives me a blank white screen and I have to reboot. Is there any progress about

Re: FR and debian, seems it's progressing

2008-08-12 Thread Robert Taylor
This is great news. I am looking forward to running a distro on this thing with a PROPER security model ... no users running as root. Thanks for linkage! R. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Any progress on the white screen of death problem?

2008-08-12 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Rorschach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think my FR with 2008.8 is nearly ready for daily usage. The only thing which is stopping this, is the white screen of death problem. So when I suspend for more than 5min or so I can't resume. It always just gives me a

Re: Any progress on the white screen of death problem?

2008-08-12 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi, I think my FR with 2008.8 is nearly ready for daily usage. The | only thing which is stopping this, is the white screen of death | problem. So when I suspend for more than 5min or so I can't resume. |

Re: Any progress on the white screen of death problem?

2008-08-12 Thread Rorschach
Today's kernel package has a patch from Mike Westerhof he reckoned might impact it somewhat, if it is caused by the GSM interrupt stuff. - -Andy thanks, I'll try it right now and will report about it. Also if I think it is more related to the xserver-xglamo stuff. signature.asc

Re: Freerunner with latest qtopia, poor GSM

2008-08-12 Thread Jonathan Spooner
Its a new problem. However as I said I'd not tried using the freerunner as my primary phone till now. Regards, Jon Tim Erwin wrote: I've been running my freerunner with the 08/08/2008 qtopia release. Now I'm using it as a phone I've noticed the GSM reception is poor... or more to the

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-12 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Ok, I understand now. They can be made like you just said, only that I need to recalibrate the whole thing, so that more states are created per cycle. I'll try in a future release. Right now I'm concentrating on the UI, and writing docs on the Wiki. Thanks, Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:46 PM,

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

2008-08-12 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Risto H. Kurppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And is this patch for tangogps or general gtk stuff.. To me it looks it doesn't have much to do with tango.. It looks to me as though this is something that should be in the 2008.08 deployment (opkg update anybody?).

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-12 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Hmm.. Don't know what to say here. Are you using the 2008.8? Older versions of rootfs used to make one accelerometer work, and the other do not; but I never encountered BOTH of the accelerometers not working... Paul On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-12 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Ok, I'll take that into consideration. Right now, I'm discussing with John Lee on how to integrate gestures into the framework, so we could definitely add such a behavior. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Great! Thanks for the info. This seems to give

Re: Video demo: Openmoko Neo Freerunner Features Accelerometer-ba sed Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-12 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Thanks! :) On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Urivan Saaib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, Congratulations! This is a great advance feature. I'll be using it a lot! Regards, ==Original message text=== On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 0:35:39 PDT Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Hi,

Re: Where are the Om2008.8 Updates?

2008-08-12 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
I want to +1 this. No battery status only the charging lightning bolt (even when its not plugged in). I deployed the kernel from the buildhost 2008.08.couple days ago and have the same problem no usb ethernet. Had to reinstall original kernel to fix this. I couldn't find a bug for this. Is

Re: Any progress on the white screen of death problem?

2008-08-12 Thread Rorschach
I installed: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080812/uImage-2.6.24+git33+88bf43840b9df0eb0a077a1394eb564be80a412e-r2-om-gta02.bin First good news: * the battery-indicator is now fully working, showing if charging/discharging and the degree of fullness of the battery

Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-12 Thread Helmut Tessarek
Hi Openmoko cummunity (and developmen team), I'm a little bit concerned about how priorities are set and handled and would like to read your opinion. 2 weeks ago I got my Neo Freerunner with Om2007. I was able to get it up and running, even importing my contacts from my old phone wasn't really

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-12 Thread Jeffery Davis
I don't get it. First of all the phone should be able to do at least things that a 50$ phone can do. Forget $50, there are probably millions of phones that can handle those things sitting in landfills. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-12 Thread Andrew Burgess
On 8/11/08, Pawel Kowalak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not that easy. But IIRC somebody on OLPC tracker stated that this problem no longer occurs in 2.4.26. We'll see when Andy switch us to 2.4.26 ;) That was me. OLPC is on 2.6.25 BTW, perhaps with upstream patches. I also posted a

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-12 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Dear Helmut, your priorities are our priorities _BUT_ it will still take quite a while, yes. From what you write, you seem to be indeed the perfect customer we are focusing our efforts on. You have a Linux system on your desktop or notebook already, you are looking for a phone that works

Re: Any progress on the white screen of death problem?

2008-08-12 Thread Ole Kliemann
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 07:43:11PM +0200, Rorschach wrote: I installed: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080812/uImage-2.6.24+git33+88bf43840b9df0eb0a077a1394eb564be80a412e-r2-om-gta02.bin First good news: * the battery-indicator is now fully working, showing

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-12 Thread Steven **
The trick may work. But I'm not sure booting from an SD works if the first partition is a swap partition (as opposed to the vfat parition it expects). Can you boot from SD with your setup? Or is that not something you mess with? -Steven On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Andrew Burgess [EMAIL

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-12 Thread Steven **
I think this is related to the bug where sound is lost when you suspend/resume. As Om2008.8 likes to suspend a LOT, chances are it suspended before your alarm could go off. At least, I think that's what happened on my attempts. I don't know if the alarm wakes the phone up or not. Didn't really

Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing

2008-08-12 Thread Steven **
FYI, I submitted at least part of this issue a few days ago: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1786 -Steven On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Risto H. Kurppa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And is this patch for tangogps or

Re: Any progress on the white screen of death problem?

2008-08-12 Thread Steven **
I assume that's a kernel for Om2008.8. Are those kernels compatible with OM2007.2 still? -Steven On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today's kernel package has a patch from Mike Westerhof he reckoned might impact it somewhat, if it is caused by the GSM

Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?

2008-08-12 Thread Andreas Hennig
I dont have the file /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full- QWERTY.kbd But after boot i can see the full qwerty keyboard to enter the SIM-pin and 1 sec later enlightenment crashes and afer recover the old keyboard is back :-( Am Monday 11 August 2008 schrieb Olivier Berger:

Re: Any progress on the white screen of death problem?

2008-08-12 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I assume that's a kernel for Om2008.8. Are those kernels compatible | with OM2007.2 still? There's only one kind of kernel kicking around. Upgrade by package though rather than DFU if at all possible. -

Re: Om2008.8 keyboard wishlist

2008-08-12 Thread Steven **
I tried to compile Dasher for Openmoko. I failed... Too many dependencies and libraries that refused to compile for me. -Steven On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'm interested in the imput method software called 'Dasher'

Re: Any progress on the white screen of death problem?

2008-08-12 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 08:14:10PM +0100, Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I assume that's a kernel for Om2008.8. Are those kernels compatible | with OM2007.2 still? There's only one kind of kernel kicking around. Upgrade by package though rather than DFU if

Re: Om2008.8 keyboard wishlist

2008-08-12 Thread Daniel Benoy
You can apt-get it under Debian and run it on the hardware. It's pretty slow with the Xglamo server, and completely unusably slow with the xorg framebuffer server that you'll generally find on a Debian install. Personally, though, I'm wondering what kind of development efforts would be

Re: Where are the Om2008.8 Updates?

2008-08-12 Thread Cliff Brake
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to +1 this. No battery status only the charging lightning bolt (even when its not plugged in). +1 for me as well ... My unit also seems to drain the battery very quickly in suspend, where the FSO milestone 2 release

Re: dfu_util and preflash-Backup

2008-08-12 Thread Hans L
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Christian Weßel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a look at the ticket and I searched for a button to add information to it, sadly not found. I hope, that someone of the dfu_util developer will read here too. You will need to register an account with Openmoko

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-12 Thread Helmut Tessarek
Hi Steven, The phone was suspended and honestly it has to work if it is suspended. Otherwise the phone would be fully up everytime I set an alarm? Helmut On 12.08.2008 15:00, Steven ** wrote: I think this is related to the bug where sound is lost when you suspend/resume. As Om2008.8 likes

RE: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-12 Thread Nick Van Fossen
I can't speak for the Openmoko developers, but it is fairly well known that the openmoko software is a work in progress with things breaking and being fixed very often. I believe most people who have the Neo phones have them to be part of something new that hasn't been done before on a phone,

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-12 Thread Helmut Tessarek
Hi Wolfgang, Thank you for your reply. your priorities are our priorities _BUT_ it will still take quite a while, yes. This is ok, as long as there is progress. The basic features should be really the only thing, development is doing right now. The sooner the basic stuff works, the sooner

Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release

2008-08-12 Thread Clare
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (re GTA01) I'd be fine with a tar.gz - image to put on SD-card. So I like the idea too .. and I'm perfectly content with booting my neo1973 from SD card .. +1 clare ___

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-12 Thread Jason Hooper
i think basic stuff is subjective. for example, i just need : 1. send / receive phone calls 2. send / receive text messaging 3. battery life but obviously this wont be the same for everyone. 1. i think almost everyone can agree on. so the sim card debacle was an interesting hurdle early. 2.

Re: Usable Keyboard

2008-08-12 Thread Marc Bantle
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: - this is going to have to sit on a backburner and await whatever spare time i find for it as i have resigned from openmoko (effective end of august). Sad to hear :-( I'll be missing your straightforward input to this list besides all the technical

RE: Could someone explain me the + + + and the * at the bottom ofthescreen (Om 2008.8) ?

2008-08-12 Thread steve
1. It will adjusted obviously to make it usable, when the functionality is added. 2. Its easier to keep them and have them do nothing. As we get more toward a beta release Some of these things will become clearer. when I sat down dith the designers, the first two questions I had were about

RE: Could someone explain me the + + + and the * at the bottom ofthescreen (Om 2008.8) ?

2008-08-12 Thread steve
The functions will be specific to the app as far as I know. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Torfinn Ingolfsen Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:30 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Could someone explain me the

RE: fledgling open source web tablet project.... similar to moko business model

2008-08-12 Thread steve
Do you remember this one. I had a blast doing it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo2 This one http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Creative-Labs-3D-Blaster-Annihilator-Pro ( and a couple dozen others) Did you like this? ( Someday I will tell you guys the real story behind the Ipod)

Re: Any progress on the white screen of death problem?

2008-08-12 Thread Holger Freyther
On Tuesday 12 August 2008 22:02:08 Florian Lohoff wrote: It seems the new kernel needs another epoch bump otherwise opkg will not detect the kernel to be newer so no upgrade here ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list | grep ^kernel kernel -

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-12 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 12 August 2008, Helmut Tessarek wrote: ad 2) I was not able to migrate my phonebook from om2007 to om2008. I had a backup from my home dir and I had the .vcf files on my sd card. Well, entering my 500 contacts is not an option. The keyboard is more or less useless, since it takes at

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-12 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 17:13 -0400, Helmut Tessarek wrote: Alright then. What format has the addressbook? A .vcf importer cannot be that hard to develop. It does not even have to be a GUI app. I'm not sure if it would be worth the effort to work on this just for 2008.8. One of the phase 2

Software/Firmware

2008-08-12 Thread Hypnotize
Hi, Does anybody know a ca date on when the software for the GTA02 will be consumer ready? -Morten ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Another question on qtopia, and md5

2008-08-12 Thread Paul Buede
So, I thought this was odd. Can someone else verify? If you download the file on the bottom of this page: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 The direct link is: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=77 The page says the md5 should be

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-12 Thread Dylan Semler
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan, I have got that error before, too. Just for the sake of testing, try this: 1) Create/modify the files precisely like I posted them in the first messages 2) Halt your Freerunner completely. 3) Boot the

Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?

2008-08-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:05:14 -0400 Jeffery Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Two thoughts... 1. Instead of working on multiple concurrent software distributions, why not try to rally everyone under one banner for a while? People are going to work on what they want to work on to some degree,

Re: Om2008.8 keyboard wishlist

2008-08-12 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:02:39 -0400 Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: You can apt-get it under Debian and run it on the hardware. It's pretty slow with the Xglamo server, and completely unusably slow with the xorg framebuffer server that you'll generally find on a Debian install.

Invicta Wireless?

2008-08-12 Thread Jim Ancona
Has anyone heard of/bought from these guys? http://invicta.myshopify.com/products/neo-freerunner I found them on Google Shopping. Their live chat said they didn't have the Freerunner in stock, but they expected it in about two weeks. Jim ___

Re: Another question on qtopia, and md5

2008-08-12 Thread Lorn Potter
Paul Buede wrote: So, I thought this was odd. Can someone else verify? If you download the file on the bottom of this page: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 The direct link is: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=77 The page says the md5

Re: Qtopia issues with 4.3.2-080808

2008-08-12 Thread Lorn Potter
Paul Buede wrote: I am not sure the most appropriate place for this, so I will post my issues here and take them elsewhere if there is a better place for them. I flashed with the qtopia-4.3.2-080808-rootfs-08081019.jffs2 and

Re: Qtopia issues with 4.3.2-080808

2008-08-12 Thread Jim Morris
Lorn Potter wrote: 3. I can pair my bluetooth headset, but it won't work with calls. I am able to ring it through the bluetooth dialog, and it does show as an option when I make a call, but if I select it, there is no sound from it. The headset does work with my treo 650, so I know it

RE: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-12 Thread steve
Qtopia. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 3:05 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Using freerunner as a telephone What is the best image and configuration to have freerunner

RE: What's up with Openmoko store?

2008-08-12 Thread steve
I'll let them know. I can sell them extras as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Federico Lorenzi Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:14 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: What's up with Openmoko store? Koolu

RE: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

2008-08-12 Thread steve
Ya just download qtopia for now. Then try 2008.9 when it comes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Vaughan Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:35 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Third request: what *is* the

Re: No pin dialog/ qpe

2008-08-12 Thread Esben Stien
Norbert Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is exactly the opposite I talked about Sorry. Didn't read thoroughly. -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e

[ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

2008-08-12 Thread Wendy
Dear community, here is the QA report which has been created before Om 2008.8 was released. We simply forgot to send this report to a public list because we were too busy with the release preparations. Sorry. More details about our bugs can be found in our bug tracker

2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

2008-08-12 Thread Olivier Berger
steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then try 2008.9 when it comes First time I happen to meet an announcement for the next release, it seems. Please issue it when it's READY and not on 2008.9.9 at 09:09:09 just for the fun of it. Jut my 2 cents. -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F)

Ahah: and you released anyway ? - Re: [ Software Testing Report : 2008.08.07 ]

2008-08-12 Thread Olivier Berger
Wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear community, here is the QA report which has been created before Om 2008.8 was released. We simply forgot to send this report to a public list because we were too busy with the release preparations. Sorry. SNIP Due to all these critical major bugs,

Re: Qtopia issues with 4.3.2-080808

2008-08-12 Thread Lorn Potter
Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: 3. I can pair my bluetooth headset, but it won't work with calls. I am able to ring it through the bluetooth dialog, and it does show as an option when I make a call, but if I select it, there is no sound from it. The headset does work with my treo