Re: [Was: Illume patch/question] Notification manager

2008-08-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:47:31 -0400 Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: yes - it's the FDO notification protocol via dbus. there's a module for e (the notification module) that can handle this. :) this is your generic i am some process with our without a gui, but i want to notify the

Re: next Qtopia

2008-08-14 Thread Mike Baroukh
Webkit is a good news. For GPRS, i couldn't make it works with 4.3 but I'll try again. And with GPS ... I hope it will really be real soon now(tm) ;) ... thanks a lot. Mike Lorn Potter a écrit : Mike Baroukh wrote: Does somebody knows when will next Qtopia version be relased (4.4) ?

Re: next Qtopia

2008-08-14 Thread Marc Verwerft
Lorn, Will the GPS app also work on the GTA01 (using the hammerhead chip)? Regards, Marc On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Baroukh wrote: Does somebody knows when will next Qtopia version be relased (4.4) ? And do you know what will be inside ? (my

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-14 Thread Helmut Tessarek
Hi Al, Unfortunately, this entry wasn't in the wiki at the time I flashed 2008.8. But thanks for the tip. I will try that. Helmut The VCF import method mentioned in the wiki works fine for me with the addressbook exported by my old k700i. You can run from the terminal which you can install

Re: which updates for Om 2008.8 ?

2008-08-14 Thread Olivier Berger
Julian Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I am the leader of building stuff. We did a release in 2008.8 then provide a stable feed. Buidhost is a building machine that build many things with AUTOREV. That means everything comes from buildhost is *Unstable* We provide

Re: Intel Atom

2008-08-14 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Jeffery, can you add the Atom chip to our 'Chip Scouting' section at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoForesight ? Also in the future, any hardware related mails should go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am getting our Electrical Engineers to subscribe to that list, and we do take the Chip Scouting

Re: IDA Systems Freerunner sales update

2008-08-14 Thread Ganesha Krishna
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Stefano Cavallari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 13 August 2008 15:46:44 Flyin_bbb8 wrote: Yes but having a creditcard payment method is preferable than wire transfers, as you'll have to go to your bank, fill a form.. da da da... I do sympathize with the

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Cédric Berger
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 01:49, Tim Coggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Tim Erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone point me towards some good Qtopia images? Latest qtopia image here: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=77 That

Re: Illume patch/question

2008-08-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:07:09 +0200 Thomas Köckerbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: thanks for the patch! it's now in svn. i've combined thins with the FSO patches and hope that they will work with FSO (i don't know). i can confirm they work with qtopia. i made the font smaller and aligned it to the

Re: Qtopia issues with 4.3.2-080808

2008-08-14 Thread Cédric Berger
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 22:01, Paul Buede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot find libgsmd-tool on qtopia, is it there somewhere, or by a different name? Then I could give you some real numbers... gsmd is not installed for qtopia. I would like to know what is the best method here to issue AT

Re: Illume patch/question

2008-08-14 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 17:35, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:07:09 +0200 Thomas Köckerbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: thanks for the patch! it's now in svn. i've combined thins with the FSO patches and hope that they will work with FSO (i don't know). Will test it.

Re: Qualcomm Snapdragon? (Re: Intel Atom )

2008-08-14 Thread David Pottage
On Thu, August 14, 2008 4:25 am, Urivan Saaib wrote: What about the QC Snapdragon? snip Qualcomm have a history of being a very litigious company. Just look at their ongoing litigation with Nokia over CDMA patents. I would be worried that if we got on the wrong side of them, they would sue

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

2008-08-14 Thread arne anka
Half an hour. 15 commands to copy and paste. How much more hand-holding does a developer need? that's only part of the story! the stuff mokomakefile gets you is already prepared to be build with bitbakecie -- which does not mean that everything builds at all (frinst vlc fails completely

Re: [qtopia on freerunner] - What files do I have to download?

2008-08-14 Thread Cédric Berger
Still same questions on the same subject, and also with the new 2008.8 repository here / coming : On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:34, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is the image (from http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/ : Qtopia flash image for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02)) created

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Cédric Berger
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:36, Tim Coggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reinstalled this version to be sure I was testing the right one (I already had this one but had done some opkg upgrade since) How did you find the

Re: Qtopia issues with 4.3.2-080808

2008-08-14 Thread Cédric Berger
2 differences I noted with 080808 release : - WIFI : It was annoted improved wifi handling... well I never managed to connect to WPA encrypted wifi, so not much experience... but it became even more difficult to configure for me : I have difficulties to access properties... menu to configure. It

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Cédric Berger
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:53, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I have came back to a clean install of 0808 image, I will retest reception of sms/calls while sleeping... (humm no, that is not me sleeping, juste the phone !) So for these very basic tasks Qtopia works not too

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
Cédric Berger skrev: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:53, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I have came back to a clean install of 0808 image, I will retest reception of sms/calls while sleeping... (humm no, that is not me sleeping, juste the phone !) So for these very

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Tim Coggins
Thanks Cédric, that's really useful. I'll try it again this evening. Tim On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:53, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I have came back to a clean install of 0808 image, I will retest

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Cédric Berger
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:57, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for the review of Qtopia :) I have decided to use the Qtopia image primary. So it works perfect as a phone :) How about the mediaplayer, GPS, WiFi and webbrowser? * mediaplayer, I did not use it much yet...

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

2008-08-14 Thread Roland Mas
Jay Vaughan, 2008-08-13 22:47:28 +0200 : Oh come on. After reading all your (and others') scary messages about that, I decided to give it a try. So I pointed my browser to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile. Half an hour later, I had a build in progress. Most of that half-hour

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

2008-08-14 Thread arne anka
I'm more likely to provide *.deb, actually, but that's just because I'm an arrogant, smug, elitist Debian bastard (and not ashamed of it, either). yeah! that's the spirit! you don't have by chance a blog or so where you jot down your experiences with debian on fr? i think, i am going to

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-14 Thread Holger Freyther
On Thursday 14 August 2008 05:25:54 Robert William Hutton wrote: Holger Freyther wrote: testing feeds: http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/all http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/armv4t http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/i686

Re: Temporary testing and development feeds for ASU

2008-08-14 Thread Norbert Hartl
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 14:26 +0200, Holger Freyther wrote: On Thursday 14 August 2008 05:25:54 Robert William Hutton wrote: Holger Freyther wrote: testing feeds: http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/all http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/om2008.8-testing/armv4t

Use gps for clock correction

2008-08-14 Thread Peter Nijs
Is there a way to use the clock of the gps to correct the hardware clock of the neo? A button sync hw clock in agpsui would be nice. Maybe later it could be a daemon (like ntpd) that does this as soon as the gps chip knows the gps time. Peter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: Qualcomm Snapdragon? (Re: Intel Atom )

2008-08-14 Thread Pritam Ghanghas
got some info on TI 3530 and beagleborad: Que: video quality with only the openly available information and code? Ans: The FFmpeg 720p demo was put together with all open source software. Video using the DSP is pending. Que: how open will be the various interfaces and drivers Ans: The

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 12:47:12 schrieb Cédric Berger: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:53, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I have came back to a clean install of 0808 image, I will retest reception of sms/calls while sleeping... (humm no, that is not me sleeping, juste

Re: Use gps for clock correction

2008-08-14 Thread Daniel Willmann
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:58:21 +0200 Peter Nijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to use the clock of the gps to correct the hardware clock of the neo? A button sync hw clock in agpsui would be nice. Maybe later it could be a daemon (like ntpd) that does this as soon as the gps chip knows

Navit OSM Map Convert

2008-08-14 Thread carcinoma
Hi Community, i'm in progres to convert the OSM Map of Berlin into an Navit Binary map File. Does anyone have some experiences with that? The Map i created and loaded into navit looks more like a fuzzy map. I followed the instructions on the wiki. used the python script for downloading and

Re: Qualcomm Snapdragon? (Re: Intel Atom )

2008-08-14 Thread Pritam Ghanghas
All this discussion is going on this thread http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/312ee38463d91380 On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Pritam Ghanghas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: got some info on TI 3530 and beagleborad: Que: video quality with only the openly available

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Cédric Berger
-oops sorry didn't CC the list on first sending- On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 15:30, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, at least 2007.2 does _nothing_ to turn off unsolicited messages on suspend IRRC. Does FSO work correctly ? Yes. ok, thanks. By the way, isn't Qtopia

Re: 2008.9 - Was Re: Third request: what *is* the warranty on the Freerunner?

2008-08-14 Thread Roland Mas
arne anka, 2008-08-14 14:24:58 +0200 : I'm more likely to provide *.deb, actually, but that's just because I'm an arrogant, smug, elitist Debian bastard (and not ashamed of it, either). yeah! that's the spirit! you don't have by chance a blog or so where you jot down your experiences

Re: Qualcomm Snapdragon? (Re: Intel Atom )

2008-08-14 Thread arne anka
When the 2D/3D graphics drivers are released, only the kernel portions will be GPL. The user-space libraries will be closed source by the current plan of record. I guess this is good enough. I dont think we are getting anything more with Glamo as well i don't think it is enough. not

Re: Navit OSM Map Convert

2008-08-14 Thread Dale Maggee
carcinoma wrote: Hi Community, i'm in progres to convert the OSM Map of Berlin into an Navit Binary map File. Does anyone have some experiences with that? The Map i created and loaded into navit looks more like a fuzzy map. I followed the instructions on the wiki. used the python script

Re: Navit OSM Map Convert

2008-08-14 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2008/8/14 carcinoma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i'm in progres to convert the OSM Map of Berlin into an Navit Binary map File. Does anyone have some experiences with that? The Map i created and loaded into navit looks more like a fuzzy map. I followed the instructions on the wiki. used the python

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread arne anka
Well, at least 2007.2 does _nothing_ to turn off unsolicited messages on suspend IRRC. i got two scripts ready, livin in /etc/apm/suspend.d/ and /etc/apm/resume.d/ respectively, which got pretty much rid of these. they execute the same at commands qtopia does. only after a couple of hours (8

Re: Use gps for clock correction

2008-08-14 Thread Matt
Daniel Willmann wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:58:21 +0200 Peter Nijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to use the clock of the gps to correct the hardware clock of the neo? A button sync hw clock in agpsui would be nice. Maybe later it could be a daemon (like ntpd) that does this

Re: Navit OSM Map Convert

2008-08-14 Thread carcinoma
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 15:40:38 schrieb Jeffrey Ratcliffe: 2008/8/14 carcinoma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i'm in progres to convert the OSM Map of Berlin into an Navit Binary map File. Does anyone have some experiences with that? The Map i created and loaded into navit looks more like a

Re: Navit OSM Map Convert

2008-08-14 Thread carcinoma
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 15:39:54 schrieb Dale Maggee: carcinoma wrote: Hi Community, i'm in progres to convert the OSM Map of Berlin into an Navit Binary map File. Does anyone have some experiences with that? The Map i created and loaded into navit looks more like a fuzzy

MokoMakeFile

2008-08-14 Thread Alasal
Hey, Is the MokoMakeFile still under development? Is there any chance for flashing Om2008.8 on the qemu emulator? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/MokoMakeFile-tp724232p724232.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Om2008.8 comments and questions

2008-08-14 Thread Yogiz
True, but 'send / receive phone calls' is on everybody's list. Not that I disagree with your arguments, I'd just like to point out that for me for example, this is not the case. I think of the Freerunner more as a small mobile Linux computer. I want it for GPS, media, web browsing, cool stuff

Re: Use gps for clock correction

2008-08-14 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 23:48, Matt wrote: Isn't time available via GSM broadcasts? Sometimes. There is a standard for it, but not all operators have it enabled for it. AFAIK no german provider has it for example. If anyone have a provider which has this feature enabled and like to

Re: Qualcomm Snapdragon? (Re: Intel Atom )

2008-08-14 Thread Pritam Ghanghas
But is there a way out. They way all these graphics chip companies behave we will never get a graphics chip on moko. For the worst case scenario that something as bad as that happens on the binary driver side. Openmoko employees will still be able to access the code as licensees. And I am not

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Cédric Berger
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 16:10, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 15:36:24 schrieb Cédric Berger: By the way, isn't Qtopia rootfs based on FSO one ? (I think that is what I saw in qtopia download site on first releases) Unlikely. Qtopia is compiled by

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-14 Thread Nathan Kinkade
2008/8/12 xaos x [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I actually finally got it working by using the article from freeyourphone that uses the multiplexing package. http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295start=0st=0sk=tsd=asid=dda5c6cbf5850182c786488123f056ce It will receive calls and make

Re: zhone on the desktop?

2008-08-14 Thread Michael Shiloh
Joachim Breitner wrote: [Resending from my other address] Hi, Am Montag, den 11.08.2008, 17:14 +0200 schrieb Witoslaw Koczewski: I would like to learn FSO development by modifying zhone. Is there a way to run zhone on my ubuntu desktop or do I need to test on a neo device? If you

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 17:36:42 schrieb Cédric Berger: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 16:10, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 15:36:24 schrieb Cédric Berger: By the way, isn't Qtopia rootfs based on FSO one ? (I think that is what I saw in qtopia

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-14 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
FSO is using dbus system activation to start gsm0710muxd. Take a peek at the necessary scripts in our package. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Cédric Berger
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 17:58, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have seen this at least here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Latest_Images#Neo_FreeRunner_3 The Developer root filesystem for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02) file is a barebones root filesystem created from the

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-14 Thread Benedikt Schindler
if installed Om 2008.8 i didn't have any problems with the howto for gprs. now i have reinstalled it and i get the same error. i also get this lines if i type mdbus -s org.pyneo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mdbus -s org.pyneo / Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/mdbus, line 391, in

Re: zhone on the desktop?

2008-08-14 Thread Alasal
Thank you, it works magnificent. What did I do on Ubuntu Hardy: - open 'Software sources' - add 'deb http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/ unstable main' - add 'deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main' - close 'Software sources' - install package libeet1 from

Re: GPRS working (somewhat) with T-Mobile and Freerunner

2008-08-14 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 18:23:04 schrieb Benedikt Schindler: if installed Om 2008.8 i didn't have any problems with the howto for gprs. now i have reinstalled it and i get the same error. i also get this lines if i type mdbus -s org.pyneo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mdbus -s org.pyneo /

Re: Using freerunner as a telephone

2008-08-14 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 18:19:26 schrieb Cédric Berger: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 17:58, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have seen this at least here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Latest_Images#Neo_FreeRunner_3 The Developer root filesystem for FIC Neo

Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. What you've seen in the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc is now available. This release includes: An application with user interface that allows

Re: Use gps for clock correction

2008-08-14 Thread Federico Lorenzi
The GPS can be used for both time and time zone... On 8/14/08, Stefan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 23:48, Matt wrote: Isn't time available via GSM broadcasts? Sometimes. There is a standard for it, but not all operators have it enabled for it. AFAIK no

Re: zhone on the desktop?

2008-08-14 Thread Alasal
Btw. How can I get the source? sudo apt-get source zhone doesn't work. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/zhone-on-the-desktop--tp686127p724563.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: Use gps for clock correction

2008-08-14 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 GPS would be perfect for updating time, cause the time sent is more exact then the times, you can get by any other way. What about ntpd, can it handle gps-data? Stefan Schmidt schrieb: | Hello. | | On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 23:48, Matt wrote: | Isn't

GPRS under FSO [Was: Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?]

2008-08-14 Thread Russell Sears
Benito wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 14:06 (-0700), Russell Sears wrote: It works immediatly with FSO and I could phone while GPRS is on. Really?!? How? Is there a GUI somewhere, or did you edit the PPP scripts to enter your provider settings? See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO

Re: GPRS under FSO [Was: Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?]

2008-08-14 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 19:08:39 schrieb Russell Sears: Anyway, [music|gps] + gprs + phone seem to play nice in FSO. (I hacked up a openmoko-mediaplayer package. Cool. Headphone insertion isn't detected yet, but it does mute/stop the music when you pick up the phone). Please add a

Re: Use gps for clock correction

2008-08-14 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 18:31, Federico Lorenzi wrote: The GPS can be used for both time and time zone... [Snip full quoted text] That is also a planned. :) Daniel has this still on his todo list, but is busy with PDU handling. As far as I know some community developer volunteered to

Re: Use gps for clock correction

2008-08-14 Thread Russell Sears
Bastian Muck wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 GPS would be perfect for updating time, cause the time sent is more exact then the times, you can get by any other way. What about ntpd, can it handle gps-data? Yes, with some work: http://time.qnan.org/ Does the FR

Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread Juergen Schinker
Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. What you've seen in the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc is now available. wooho this is so cool it works

Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread Harald Koenig
Hi Paul, On Aug 14, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gestures really nice work! a quick hint how to start from ssh login, just use DISPLAY=:0 /etc/init.d/gesl start instead of

Debian on Freerunner?

2008-08-14 Thread Arne Zachlod
Is there a way to get Debin for Freerunner? i can't find any image neither a kernel, nor a rootfs... but i would like to have Debian on my phone... ciao, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Debian on Freerunner?

2008-08-14 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 14.08.2008, 20:06 +0200 schrieb Arne Zachlod: Is there a way to get Debin for Freerunner? i can't find any image neither a kernel, nor a rootfs... but i would like to have Debian on my phone... please be patient for (hopefully)less than a day, there will be an

Re: Debian on Freerunner?

2008-08-14 Thread Thomas Bertani
read here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian 2008/8/14 Arne Zachlod [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a way to get Debin for Freerunner? i can't find any image neither a kernel, nor a rootfs... but i would like to have Debian on my phone... ciao, Arne

Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread Ben Holt
Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Have fun with it! Excellent, the gestures seem to be working well for me, thanks! As a somewhat related aside, I haven't played with the landscape view before and am noticing that the keyboard isn't properly calibrated. It looks to expect the keyboard to be

Re: Debian on Freerunner?

2008-08-14 Thread Arne Zachlod
i don't like to be patient can u say me where i can find the statement tomorrow? i want to be informed as early as possible... and i cant see my mails at work ;)- so some more information as tomorrow would be great :) ciao, Arne Joachim Breitner schrieb: Hi, Am Donnerstag, den

Re: zhone on the desktop?

2008-08-14 Thread Alasal
Ok, found it. I have already adapted the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Zhone Alasal wrote: Btw. How can I get the source? sudo apt-get source zhone doesn't work. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/zhone-on-the-desktop--tp686127p724770.html Sent from the

Re: Intel Atom

2008-08-14 Thread Joachim Steiger
qrazi wrote: The test referred to are with the nettop version of the Atom, the Atom N230. That CPU is paired with a standard 945GC chipset, which consumes between 15 and 20 Watt. Hence the high power draws in those reviews. Intel also has the Z series, which include speedstep for even lower

Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread Paul-Valentin Borza
Thanks, didn't know that. I'll definitely try it out. Thanks, Paul On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Harald Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, On Aug 14, Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: There's a quick way to install it, and a more detailed way... Read

Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread Norbert Hartl
Excellent!! Two things in one go :) I have trained a bit. But I have problems to train z and some of the others. shake-shake is very prominent in detection :) I noticed also that gesd is running on 17% cpu permanently. Could this be a reason for the problems in detecting or the delay until the

Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread carcinoma
Am Donnerstag 14 August 2008 20:23:02 schrieb Ben Holt: Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: Have fun with it! i'm sad, because the hexdump for /dev/input/event2 has no output... result is: no working gesture capturing. what can i do to activate the top accelerometer? please help me, it's such a nice

Re: GPRS under FSO [Was: Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?]

2008-08-14 Thread Benito
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:08 (-0700), Russell Sears wrote: Anyway, [music|gps] + gprs + phone seem to play nice in FSO. (I hacked up a openmoko-mediaplayer package. Would you provide that to us? I'd like to use it, too. Thx, /Ben ___ Openmoko

Re: Is Neo1973 truly abandoned?

2008-08-14 Thread Marek Lindner
On Friday, 15. August 2008 02:03:43 John Locke wrote: How many GTA01s did you sell? Gotta be a few thousand. I'm sure we all bought them assuming *someday* we'd have a usable phone. Right now, I have a usable GPS, thanks to TangoGPS, other than the fact that the battery dies before I finish

Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
cool! Thanks! 1 quick question. wiki says: Remark: The Alpha 2 Release uses the TOP accelerometer. Are you planing to develop the accelerometer further to make use of all (ie both now) acceelerometers present at the same time to improve sensitivity/specificity of the detection? :-) --

Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread Yorick Moko
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool! Thanks! 1 quick question. wiki says: Remark: The Alpha 2 Release uses the TOP accelerometer. Are you planing to develop the accelerometer further to make use of all (ie both now) acceelerometers present at the

Re: GPRS under FSO [Was: Re: What could be done to improve the OM development process?]

2008-08-14 Thread Russell Sears
There are a bunch of manual steps right now: - openmoko-mediaplayer is hardcoded to use pulseaudio. Switching to alsa is a one-line change. - the mediaplayer theme files need to live in the Raleigh directory not in Moko - There's some dependency on a openmoko sound system. I don't know

Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread Michael Shiloh
Paul-Valentin Borza wrote: I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. What you've seen in the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc is now available. This release includes: An

Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

2008-08-14 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you update your ASU with the buildhost ? that will destroy the Yes, I did. AFAIK, this is the only way to update ASU with daily updates, unless one wants to reinstall everything every day (ie. flash a new

opkg - how do I unhold a package

2008-08-14 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, When I do 'opkg upgrade', I get this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg -test upgrade Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. Multiple packages (kernel-2.6.24 and kernel-2.6.24) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using

Re: Intel Atom

2008-08-14 Thread Brad Midgley
Joachim thats also my conclusion: x86 is not ready yet for really mobile use. fwiw, atom may not be ready, but there are a couple of system-on-chip x86 cpus out there that might be interesting. Just how much power is still in question, but there's geode from AMD, some VIA offerings, and a

Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

2008-08-14 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Update: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll do another 'opkg update opkg upgrade' this evening and see if things have improved. Well, still no sound. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko

Re: Intel Atom

2008-08-14 Thread James Thomas Snell
I totally think running an x86 CPU in the phone would be great for opening up possibilities for hobbyist developers. ARM may be more efficient but if this project is meant to really enable DIY projects, I think x86 would be fantastic. Part of what we've got to also keep in mind is that the power

Re: (NAND) boot problems with empty batteries ?

2008-08-14 Thread Fredrik Wendt
ons 2008-08-13 klockan 13:28 +0200 skrev arne anka: how can I get the FR up with empty batteries, how to charge an empty battery ? the way you did. I used the battery from my son's Nokia 5300 to boot my phone, connected power (USB charger) and then switched battery. The wiki lists known

Re: Is Neo1973 truly abandoned?

2008-08-14 Thread Ben Wilson
I second this. Ben I am only aware of 1 (ONE) functioning GTA01 in the Taipei office. A bit hard to do development and testing that way. Next week we will look at the Om 2008.8 on GTA01 situation: 1. how many people want this? How many GTA01s did you sell? Gotta be a few

Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread Daniel Benoy
Looks good :) Here's my experiences, don't know if these are planned for future releases: I don't know if something is wrong for me though because it's really sensitive. Handling my phone ordinarally and gently results in a lot of 'shake shake'. Would it be possible to require a constant

Re: MokoMakeFile

2008-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Alasal wrote: Is the MokoMakeFile still under development? It is, but it's difficult at the moment to get things to build correctly. Is there any chance for flashing Om2008.8 on the qemu emulator? You can do this now by setting the branch correctly. See the MokoMakefile wiki page for

Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

2008-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you update your ASU with the buildhost ? that will destroy the Yes, I did. AFAIK, this is the only way to update ASU with daily updates, unless one wants to reinstall everything every

Re: spanner/wrench in daily builds (ASU) from buildhost.openmoko.org

2008-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Yorick Moko wrote: Is there a way to get the spanner/wrench back on openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk--20080813-om-gta02.rootfs ? You'd be better off actually using the asu image, and then updating it using zecke's correct feeds instead of using that image you've listed above which

Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread thomasg
Really great work! But I don't think a service depending on a running xserver should be an init script (even if the script can require the X init script to be ready). Imho it would be better to use the X infrastructure for that, maybe by an Xsession file. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:43 PM,

Re: Is Neo1973 truly abandoned?

2008-08-14 Thread Brad Midgley
John Note that the Neo 1973 can not currently run the OM 2008.8 software (the latest release), and that there are no immediate plans to make that happen. This move would also cut the developer base down significantly. Openmoko seeded the community with a lot of neo1973 devices and that (big)

Re: Intel Atom

2008-08-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:32:22 +0200 Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: qrazi wrote: The test referred to are with the nettop version of the Atom, the Atom N230. That CPU is paired with a standard 945GC chipset, which consumes between 15 and 20 Watt. Hence the high power draws in

Re: Illume patch/question

2008-08-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:54:10 +0200 Stefan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hello. On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 17:35, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:07:09 +0200 Thomas Köckerbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: thanks for the patch! it's now in svn. i've combined thins with

Re: Tangogps pre-cache?

2008-08-14 Thread Robert William Hutton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 03:50:30PM -0600, -stacy wrote: Steven Kurylo wrote: The tango gps documentation says Additionally you can conveniently pre-cache areas. Can anyone tell me how to do this? I can scroll around and have those tiles cached for off line use, but

WiFi issues (was Re: Using freerunner as a telephone)

2008-08-14 Thread freerunner
I'm running 2008.08 and am also unable to get the Wifi tool in 'Settings' to connect to a WPA-protected AP. Manually from terminal it works one time out of every 5 or 6 attempts. (oddly, likelihood seems greater if subsequent attempts are immediate - the first attempt ALWAYS fails) The failed

Re: ASU and sound - broken - how to fix it?

2008-08-14 Thread Mike Doody
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you update your ASU with the buildhost ? that will destroy the Yes, I did. AFAIK, this is the only way to update ASU

Re: Is Neo1973 truly abandoned?

2008-08-14 Thread Rod Whitby
Holger Freyther wrote: PS: E.g. mickeyl is testing FSO on GTA01 as well, so it remains supported.. I'm currently working on getting gllin to talk to ogpsd in the fso framework, so I can run TangoGPS on a GTA01 alongside Zhone and NumptyPhysics :-) -- Rod (who's only working OM phone is a GTA01)

Re: Intel Atom

2008-08-14 Thread Russell Sears
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: though we need to accept that we need to move beyond SDR into DDR/DDR2 ram and higher clockrates anyway - we need more performance to do the things people want, we just need to do it with the right generation of SOC that has reigned these power

Re: numptyphysics ipk

2008-08-14 Thread Michael Shiloh
Someone please wikify? This is an awesome demo. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

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