Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-02-18 Thread Daniel Spies
On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:42:56 +0100, matthias felsc...@student.hu-berlin.de wrote: Bastian Muck schrieb: Gothnet schrieb: This isn't going to help you but... The windows driver seems dodgy. The 5th of december Android image made windows bluescreen when you plugged the FR into a machine

Re: paroli meets fso

2009-02-18 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, the version is not automagically updated. You can find a more current version here: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/armv4t/ explicitly today you can find:

Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-02-18 Thread Cédric Berger
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 06:21, Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de wrote: Gothnet schrieb: The windows driver seems dodgy. The 5th of december Android image made windows bluescreen when you plugged the FR into a machine with the driver installed. Linux is your friend, though of course that's not

Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-02-18 Thread Paul Fertser
Cédric Berger cedric.berge...@gmail.com writes: Gothnet schrieb: The windows driver seems dodgy. The 5th of december Android image made windows bluescreen when you plugged the FR into a machine with the driver installed. Linux is your friend, though of course that's not always possible. I

Re: good 2.6.28 kernel for 2008.12

2009-02-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello, | | I've been using 2008.12 for a while now and it works really good. But | there's a need to change to a 2.6.28 kernel due to some bugs. I tried | the newest andy-tracking, but it's really unstable.

draft of community updates

2009-02-18 Thread Brenda Wang
Dear list : The 12th community updates will released on Feb , 20. As usual, I put the draft on Talk page first. Feel free to edit it if I missed any information. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Updates/February_20%2C_2009 Best Regards Brenda

Re: SHR missing rootfs (was: Re: bearstech SHR missing rootfs)

2009-02-18 Thread Johny Tenfinger
shr-testing is unsupported at the moment. Please link to shr-unstable and use it instead of testing, or wait for new testing image. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

opkg.org AppManager Wlan - zenity dependency missing

2009-02-18 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi! AppManager and Wlan at opkg.org depend both on zenity in http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk It's not available any more. Anyone know where to find zenity now? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi

Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?

2009-02-18 Thread Jay Vaughan
Hiya gang, After a few months of ignoring the OpenMoko scene while I concentrated on other things (beagleboard/openpandora) I find myself looking at my neo1973 and freerunner gear, and thinking its time to do something interesting with these devices again. But I have no idea what is

Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?

2009-02-18 Thread Yorick Moko
for the freerunner i would suggest either SHR unstable or maybe FSO + paroli stuff (haven't tried that one yet) On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Jay Vaughan j...@synth.net wrote: Hiya gang, After a few months of ignoring the OpenMoko scene while I concentrated on other things

Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-02-18 Thread matthias felsche
Daniel Spies schrieb: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:42:56 +0100, matthias felsc...@student.hu-berlin.de wrote: Bastian Muck schrieb: Gothnet schrieb: This isn't going to help you but... The windows driver seems dodgy. The 5th of december Android image made windows

Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?

2009-02-18 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Jay Vaughan j...@synth.net wrote: Hiya gang, So, I turn to you guys: what would you recommend I put on both/either of these machines for a bit of fun today? FDOM, SHR, something else? In terms of easy-to-get fun factor, what do you guys suggest? Check

Will software patents stop us having multitouch?

2009-02-18 Thread Tim Dobson
I recently came across this blog post which, interesting explains that the Android G1 is *capable* of multitouch but chose not to use it for some reason - some suggest, for fear of litigation from Apple. http://osswatch.jiscinvolve.org/2009/01/30/what-does-that-two-finger-gesture-mean/ I don't

Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-02-18 Thread Radek Polak
Hope you understand what I wrote there. It worked for me with SHR, Om2008.8, Om2008.12, Debian. Can you please check your kernel version and give us know? If it's 2.6.24 then this one known to work. Thanks Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: Speech dispatcher output to bluetooth (navit) ?

2009-02-18 Thread Lothar Behrens
See below... Am 15.02.2009 um 22:45 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 09:38:41PM +0100, Lothar Behrens wrote: Has no one got the output of speech-dispatcher into a bouetooth headset ? Using mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth works, but not spd-say. It always comes

Re: [FSO M5] - Answering a Call

2009-02-18 Thread SCarlson
Thanks, I will apply/test the patch and also file a ticket tonight. (eastern standard) -SCarlson On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer (via Nabble) ml-user+1966-127261...@n2.nabble.comml-user%2b1966-127261...@n2.nabble.com wrote: Am Tuesday 17 February 2009 20:46:20

Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-02-18 Thread Matthias Felsche
Can you please check your kernel version and give us know? If it's 2.6.24 then this one known to work. Ok, you caught me! It's really 2.6.24. damn! this would have been too easy, i think! matthias Pt! Schon vom neuen

Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC

2009-02-18 Thread Daniel Spies
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:02:04 +0100, matthias felsche matthiasfels...@web.de wrote: Daniel Spies schrieb: Yes, me (have only Windows at work). I got a bluescreen once, but it never happened again... But somehow I can't get a internet connection (network works only between FR and Host), so I

Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-02-18 Thread Helge Hafting
Dylan Reilly wrote: Curse all these python 2.5 versus 2.6 issues! The mutagen package was actually built for 2.5 and not 2.6 (my fault). I have fixed this and uploaded a new version to opkg.org. Note that I changed the version number. The mutagen problem is fixed indeed. When running pythm, I

Re: after Qi no USB in Nor questions

2009-02-18 Thread Helge Hafting
C R McClenaghan wrote: Note: when booted into installed image, USB networking is fine and the above errors do not occur. Is this a host side problem or Neo Freerunner problem? I notice in the Qi documentation that there is no dfu-util support. Would that effect dfu-util in Nor?

Re: [FSO M5] - Answering a Call

2009-02-18 Thread Helge Hafting
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Tuesday 17 February 2009 20:46:20 schrieb SCarlson: Does anyone know a good fix for the answer call delay.. When I get a call, I hit the answer button, and it takes approx. 3-5 seconds for the phone to actually pick the call up??? What the heck is it doing?

Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?

2009-02-18 Thread Helge Hafting
Jay Vaughan wrote: Hiya gang, After a few months of ignoring the OpenMoko scene while I concentrated on other things (beagleboard/openpandora) I find myself looking at my neo1973 and freerunner gear, and thinking its time to do something interesting with these devices again. But I

SHR-unstable, GTA01 (neo1973) and GPS?

2009-02-18 Thread Jay Vaughan
Hiya, Well, I got SHR-testing up and running on my neo1973 after many recommendations from folks on this list and in the #openmoko channel, and so far it looks pretty nice - can make calls and receive them and so on, and it doesn't crash too much (after I did an opkg update +upgrade), so

Re: Will software patents stop us having multitouch?

2009-02-18 Thread Helge Hafting
Tim Dobson wrote: I recently came across this blog post which, interesting explains that the Android G1 is *capable* of multitouch but chose not to use it for some reason - some suggest, for fear of litigation from Apple.

Re: SHR-unstable, GTA01 (neo1973) and GPS?

2009-02-18 Thread Tilman Baumann
Jay Vaughan wrote: Hiya, Well, I got SHR-testing up and running on my neo1973 after many recommendations from folks on this list and in the #openmoko channel, and so far it looks pretty nice - can make calls and receive them and so on, and it doesn't crash too much (after I did an

Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?

2009-02-18 Thread Jay Vaughan
SHR is nice. Phone and gps works well. Music player can be made to work well too. Lots of games and other software is available at opkg.org. yeah i'm settling on this for gta01 for now .. it looks pretty well. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko

Re: SHR-unstable, GTA01 (neo1973) and GPS?

2009-02-18 Thread Jay Vaughan
Do we still need to install the gllin package on neo1973? Sure If so, how do I do it 'properly' on SHR-testing? Just opkg install it. okay it doesn't seem to be working for some reason. the gta01 has sat on the window for an hour, no fix .. FR got one in 5 minutes. (I have my gllin

Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline

2009-02-18 Thread Helge Hafting
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com writes: It is not a problem that user account is required when download u-blox online aiding data. It is a problem since u-blox might go out of business and you might not want to tell them where you are all time. Their server also might

Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline

2009-02-18 Thread Cédric Berger
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 16:52, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com writes: It is not a problem that user account is required when download u-blox online aiding data. It is a problem since u-blox might go out of business and you

Re: SHR-unstable, GTA01 (neo1973) and GPS?

2009-02-18 Thread Tilman Baumann
Jay Vaughan wrote: Do we still need to install the gllin package on neo1973? Sure If so, how do I do it 'properly' on SHR-testing? Just opkg install it. okay it doesn't seem to be working for some reason. the gta01 has sat on the window for an hour, no fix .. FR got one in 5 minutes.

Re: SHR-unstable, GTA01 (neo1973) and GPS?

2009-02-18 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tilman Baumann wrote: If nothing is broken, this should do automatically. fso-gpsd should fire up, which does connect to freameworkd. If you connect to gpsd gllin should start. But to be honest, I had mine sitting on the shelf for some time now. But the only thing it get is the GPS-Time.

Re: [FSO M5] - Answering a Call

2009-02-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Wednesday 18 February 2009 16:20:43 schrieb Helge Hafting: Not taking the call until the ringtone stops is actually a good idea, the caller is probably not interested in hearing the last parts of the ringtone. Hehe, true, although on the Neo hardware this won't be a problem since switching

Re: after Qi no USB in Nor questions

2009-02-18 Thread Paul Fertser
Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no writes: Did you flash Qi to both NAND flash and NOR flash? Flashing NOR is impossible without debug board or messing with hardware. But you have a working image, and linux has device drivers for flash devices. ( /dev/mtd* ) Reading them is no problem. So

Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline

2009-02-18 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 18 February 2009, Cédric Berger wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 16:52, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com writes: It is not a problem that user account is required when download u-blox online aiding data. It is

Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline

2009-02-18 Thread Cédric Berger
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 17:49, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: I may be misunderstanding the suggestion, but I don't think it had anything to do with data from ublox. The suggestion was to use data sent by other freerunner users instead of the data supplied by ublox. As I

Safe to move off QtE yet?

2009-02-18 Thread Warren Baird
Hey all, I've been using my FR as my daily phone since installing QtE 4.4.2 on it some months back.QtE addressed the biggest problem I had with OM2008.9 at the time - I could reliably answer calls after suspend. When I was using OM2008.9 I regularly missed calls because the phone would take

Re: [debian] e17 - questions

2009-02-18 Thread Brock
On 2009.02.17.18.44, Davide Scaini wrote: | - has anyone a working version from fso-pkg of e17+illume? ...it seems that | the keyboard is not working. I'm having the same issue. There is a bug report, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514021 but I don't know the status beyond

HTC Dream Developer Edition / T-Mobile G1

2009-02-18 Thread Daniel Benoy
I've heard that there's a special developer edition of the HTC Dream (Marketed in the US and Europe under the name 'T-Mobie G1'), which includes an unlocked boot loader and carrier agnostic GSM access. Does anyone know anything about this device and how it compares to the GTA02 and current

Re: HTC Dream Developer Edition / T-Mobile G1

2009-02-18 Thread Ofek Doron
The name of the device is ADP1 , and the hardware is the same as HTC G1, exclude unlocked boot loader. you can buy the device from google , and it's the developer edition for the G1 . it is not a free hardware and the os is android . - doron Daniel Benoy wrote: I've heard that there's a

Re: HTC Dream Developer Edition / T-Mobile G1

2009-02-18 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 14:46, Daniel Benoy wrote: Are there any plans to make the FSO framework compatible with the hardware in this device (and, by extension, make Debian and current/future openmoko distributions compatible)? Funny, I was thinking about exactly this again today. We,

Re: HTC Dream Developer Edition / T-Mobile G1

2009-02-18 Thread joakim
Daniel Benoy dan...@benoy.name writes: I've heard that there's a special developer edition of the HTC Dream (Marketed in the US and Europe under the name 'T-Mobie G1'), which includes an unlocked boot loader and carrier agnostic GSM access. Does anyone know anything about this device and

[2008.12] What freezes my OM?

2009-02-18 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, I'm going to ask hints for a problem I've on my FreeRunner since I installed 2008.12 (December 2008). Apparently randomly, sometimes it freezes and a reboot is required to get it work properly again. It appens most of the time when I

Re: HTC Dream Developer Edition / T-Mobile G1

2009-02-18 Thread Lon Lentz
I have one of these. I needed something a little more stable than my FR that allowed me to screw up the os. Other than changes for HW support, I see no reason that it couldn't run FSO. Although I imagine that HTC wouldn't prove helpful in getting the needed information. The problem is, the

Re: HTC Dream Developer Edition / T-Mobile G1

2009-02-18 Thread Daniel Benoy
If I were to get this I would gladly act as a beta tester. I could also set it up on my network and give developers shell access, if that's what's needed. However, my primary concern if it's actually open, or if it's filled with super secret patented stuff or otherwise tries to lock me down.

Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?

2009-02-18 Thread Daniel Benoy
I'm having lots of fun with Debian. I put an 8GB card in my freerunner, and put Debian, zhone, and illume on it. (Illume is a fairly recent development, and it still doesn't work quite right. Here's how you install it if you're interested: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Illume) Some

Re: [2008.12] What freezes my OM?

2009-02-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com writes: Is it related with CPU overload or something similar? Is it related with kernel version (a suggested super-stable kernel?)? Is there a way to read in the logs which is the cause of this problem? Add panic=15 to kernel command line to have it

Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?

2009-02-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Daniel Benoy dan...@benoy.name writes: I'm also interested trying to set up some VoIP stuff but I've yet to find any really suitable software. netcat works for very simple demonstrations :-) target$ netcat -l -p 1234 | aplay -r 44100 -f S16_LE fr$ alsactl -f voip-handset.state restore fr$

Re: [2008.12] What freezes my OM?

2009-02-18 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks :D In the meantime I've found this[1] on ML. I'll try first Trevino's kernel, and if it will not solve my situation I'll switch to log reading :D Thanks again ;) Timo Juhani Lindfors ha scritto: Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com

Re: [2008.12] What freezes my OM?

2009-02-18 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Be patient :D The link in the previous mail was [1] [1] http://tinyurl.com/d5yenk Timo Juhani Lindfors ha scritto: Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com writes: Is it related with CPU overload or something similar? Is it related with kernel

Re: [FSO M5] - Answering a Call

2009-02-18 Thread Esben Stien
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org writes: guess we might look into something that just dumps out a raw file via /dev/adsp. A better solution is using something like supercollider, a synth, to generate the ring tones and every other sound we need. A synth should also be an integral

Re: HTC Dream Developer Edition / T-Mobile G1

2009-02-18 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/2/18 Daniel Benoy dan...@benoy.name If I were to get this I would gladly act as a beta tester. I could also set it up on my network and give developers shell access, if that's what's needed. However, my primary concern if it's actually open, or if it's filled with super secret

Re: [FSO M5] - Answering a Call

2009-02-18 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/2/17 SCarlson scottrcarl...@gmail.com Hello All -- Does anyone know a good fix for the answer call delay.. When I get a call, I hit the answer button, and it takes approx. 3-5 seconds for the phone to actually pick the call up??? What the heck is it doing? heh... Has anyone tweaked

QTExtended freezes on GPRS

2009-02-18 Thread Jelle De Loecker
Hi everyone, I've started a thread about this problem a few weeks back, but I think I explained it wrong. Whenever QT Extended logs in to GPRS the frontend freezes. And I really do mean only the frontend. I can still SSH into the device and whatnot, the screen will just stay completely static,

Re: Best thing to run on Freerunner and Neo1973 machines today?

2009-02-18 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 18 February 2009, Daniel Benoy wrote: I'm having lots of fun with Debian. I put an 8GB card in my freerunner, [snip] I'm also interested trying to set up some VoIP stuff but I've yet to find any really suitable software. linphone should be available for debian. It won't switch

Re: HTC Dream Developer Edition / T-Mobile G1

2009-02-18 Thread scholbert
joakim wrote: The selling point for me when buying the G1 is that I read that its possible to boot debian on it, just like the Freerunner. Unfortunately that's not quite true, at present. What people have done is to loop mount a canned debian filesystem and chroot to it, allowing you to

Re: HTC Dream Developer Edition / T-Mobile G1

2009-02-18 Thread Gothnet
scholbert wrote: joakim wrote: The selling point for me when buying the G1 is that I read that its possible to boot debian on it, just like the Freerunner. Unfortunately that's not quite true, at present. What people have done is to loop mount a canned debian filesystem and

How to get my wifi work on FreeRunner

2009-02-18 Thread Daniel.Li
Dear All, Currently I have just loaded with Qt Extended flash image for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02) version 4.4.2 from below link. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Latest_Images#Qtopia_images How can I can wifi work? Any help is appreciated. Thanks. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus

Re: Safe to move off QtE yet?

2009-02-18 Thread HouYu Li
Hi. try FSO. SHR is good but wakes up a little bit slower than FSO. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Warren Baird photogeek...@gmail.comwrote: Hey all, I've been using my FR as my daily phone since installing QtE 4.4.2 on it some months back.QtE addressed the biggest problem I had with

Re: [debian] e17 - questions

2009-02-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:26:19 -0500 Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org said: On 2009.02.17.18.44, Davide Scaini wrote: | - has anyone a working version from fso-pkg of e17+illume? ...it seems that | the keyboard is not working. I'm having the same issue. There is a bug report,

[Query] Known Good SD cards

2009-02-18 Thread Shaz
Hi everyone, I need some guidance on uSD cards because i tried a few locally available to my town but none are working. My understanding is that its the quality or I am making a mistake in compatibility. I need some help in understanding this issue. If there are known to be working SD cards

Re: Safe to move off QtE yet?

2009-02-18 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/2/19 HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com Hi. try FSO. SHR is good but wakes up a little bit slower than FSO. Does FSO come with Paroli now? Is it better than Zhone? I used Zhone for a while, but it's unusable for me, although pretty. ___ Openmoko