c_c wrote:
> Hi,
> The freerunner and 1973 have only 2 buttons. While the power button is
> being used for suspend and for switching off, the 'AUX' button seems under
> utilised. I was wondering whether there could be a method added to FSO that
> allowed overloading of this button based on the
Hi,
The freerunner and 1973 have only 2 buttons. While the power button is
being used for suspend and for switching off, the 'AUX' button seems under
utilised. I was wondering whether there could be a method added to FSO that
allowed overloading of this button based on the context. For eg :-
1.
On Feb 26, 2009, at 19:03 , Vasco Névoa wrote:
>
> Hi folks.
> First off, a BIG THANKS to the SHR team; this is the best distro I
> tried for GTA02 in a long while. :)
>
> Second, a weird problem I'm having... I updated my system with opkg
> yesterday, and a bunch os problems were corrected (yay!
Nice, useful app. On SHR I needed to do the following besides the
instructions on the wiki:
opkg -force-depends install
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/libgnomecanvas-2-0_2.20.0-r0_armv4t.ipk
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/libgailutil18_1.20.0-r0_armv
Hi List
I made some first trials with qwo [1&2] today and have to say that I'm
really impressed, that's exactly what I was looking for! Give it a try!
As I missed a few things (mainly Umlaute, try writing swiss-german w/o them
;) I thought about posting my "~/.qworc" here in case you'd need them
Interesting!
Would this impact resume from suspend on an incoming phone call? The
reason I abandoned the 2008.X family was that I was missing 3/4 of my
incoming calls because by the time the phone unsuspended I had missed the
call... If this will fix it, maybe I can finally move off QtE...
Wa
On Thursday 26 February 2009 18:08:54 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> Check your uboot commandline loglevel value... It highly impacts on the
> suspend/resume time. I've set it to 3 (but some time ago was set by the
> system to 8, and I had to wait more than 6-7 seconds to wake the phone,
> while
Hi!
Todays morning I created polish translation for Zhone (based on
russian .po file, but as I don't know russian I was translating from
english)
I attached .po and .mo files.
Thanks!
dos
zhone.mo
Description: Binary data
zhone.po
Description: Binary data
opkg update/upgrade should be enough. You can manually edit
/etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml too.
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Hrm, I just did that at lunch to no avail. Do I have to reflash or
should opkg update/upgrade be enough?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Johny Tenfinger wrote:
> Upgrade, suspend on power is removed on latest shr-unstable (it is for
> few days :P)
>
> ___
/me finds it very interesting
looking forward to a good implementation of it
(also have you any idea how much it will impact the battery lifetime
of the bluetooth unit?)
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Daniel Benoy wrote:
> On Thursday 26 February 2009 09:07:12 you wrote:
>> On Wednesday 25 Febr
Now I know, that I won't want to buy GTA03, even if I had enough money
(ok ok, if only i was some millionaire i would buy it, but until i'm
not, there are other possibilities to spend money :P). My using
scenario of touch screen of Linux based phone needs resistive screen.
Capacitive is not an opti
Upgrade, suspend on power is removed on latest shr-unstable (it is for
few days :P)
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On Thursday 26 February 2009 09:07:12 you wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 February 2009 22:06:49 you wrote:
> > So is this to say that the bluetooth earpiece itself has MP3-decoding
> > capability? I find that hard to imagine. So where is the decoding actually
> > taking place? And can it be done with OGG
Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
>
> for the most location based services this location info is good
> enough. think about: "give me a restaurant in the near" or "remind me
> when i am near this place". you dont have to wait until you get a fix
> and know in a second where you are.
>
Thanks, with curren
Vasco Névoa writes:
> Second, a weird problem I'm having... I updated my system with opkg
> yesterday, and a bunch os problems were corrected (yay!) and I'm using
> the phone in "everyday life", but now I can't login via SSH on my
> windows box.
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2211
-
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:38:03 +0100
""Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster"" wrote:
> a little OT, but... why have you folks been waitong for so long to
> discuss/complain about that it's been in the wiki for weeks(months?)?
It has been discussed on this list since at least last summer, MANY
times. Pe
Simon Kagstrom schrieb:
> While I'd like a capacitive touch screen for GTA03, I'm pretty sure
> that Openmoko has already made up its mind for one of the solutions and
> I don't think we can change it here. I'm fine with that.
>
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:45:10 +
> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:49:01 +0100
Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Thursday, February 26, 2009 a las 11:38:45AM +0100, Steve
> 'dillo Okay escribió:
>
> >
> > On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:20 , Matthias Apitz wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >>
> > >
> > > Default: unuseable for terminal/UNIX input
> > >
On Thursday 26 February 2009, Shawn "Trash" Thompson wrote:
> Ever used an iPhone? their screen is nice, responsive and the gui is
> designed where a stylus isn't needed. I actually was rather fond of the
> iPhone screen and was very unimpressed with the GTA02's touchscreen in
> comparison.
I've t
To the List,
When I tapped the power button in previous versions, I was presented
with a window offering buttons to suspend, lock, shutdown, etc, same
as then I click the 'X' button in the shelf while at the home screen.
In current versions, a tap of the power button brings up this menu and
drops
Hi folks.
First off, a BIG THANKS to the SHR team; this is the best distro I
tried for GTA02 in a long while. :)
Second, a weird problem I'm having... I updated my system with opkg
yesterday, and a bunch os problems were corrected (yay!) and I'm using
the phone in "everyday life", but now I
I figured out this trick quite a few years back to use on a palm 3 - but I
just tested it out and it works quite well on an FR, so I thought I'd share
it.
Take a standard sized business card (ideally of relatively thin card stock)
- hold it in 'portrait' position. Fold the bottom right corner up
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
wrote:
> Florian Hackenberger wrote:
>> I noticed that suspending / resuming on 2008.12 is quite fast compared
>> to SHR. The difference which is most noticeable is that SHR switches to
>> a virtual terminal before and right after suspen
While I'd like a capacitive touch screen for GTA03, I'm pretty sure
that Openmoko has already made up its mind for one of the solutions and
I don't think we can change it here. I'm fine with that.
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:45:10 +
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> However the following are what
Yorick Moko wrote:
> looks good,
> maybe one little comment:
> I would have have put "ctrl" as the lower left button
Then I'd have to put the TAB in the place where CTRL is now next to the
ALT, which is a bit odd. Either way it is always a bit strange.
>
> when playing action games for example:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:33:22PM +0100, GNUtoo wrote:
> >> Just about all phone manufacturers are going to capacitive screens as
> >> they virtually eliminate accidental touches in something like a purse or
> >> pocket.
> >
> > They also eliminate precision.
>
> That is a problem for some applica
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 08:34:38AM +0100, Steve 'dillo Okay wrote:
> I have to agree here. Styli are more a hindrance than a help. I find
> I'm always leaving my stylus or retracted pen somewhere and looking
> for another.
However the following are what makes a resistive screen clearly better
Florian Hackenberger wrote:
> I noticed that suspending / resuming on 2008.12 is quite fast compared
> to SHR. The difference which is most noticeable is that SHR switches to
> a virtual terminal before and right after suspending, as opposed to
> 2008.12 which resumes right into X. Is there a wa
Dear Community,
Thanks for helping from community and my openmoko colleagues, this academy
survey is reopening now.
Please access the online survey:
http://www.t0ny.net/harrytsai/index.php?sid=45769&lang=en
I am trying to through this survey to get more clear opinions and
information from the Op
looks good,
maybe one little comment:
I would have have put "ctrl" as the lower left button
when playing action games for example:
arrows: move
space: open/jump
ctrl: shoot
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Pander wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Someone mentioned a finger friendly browse keoyboard, and I ju
FYI, there is a new version of pythm available on opkg.org
2009-02-26 - Version 0.5.4-dmr:
---
* Fixed many issues with skip and previous. They should behave as expected now.
* Removed dependence on pyalsaaudio. Volume changing is handled via
the back-ends once again.
*
Well, I can't play SCUMMVM games as it is now. The mouse and stylus get WAY
desynced and I can't click most of the screen. But that's a software bug,
not a hardware issue.
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> Well, I'm actually looking at taking it further - apart from being a
> frontend to mplayer. I'm also looking at playing ogg through tremor and
> trying out mpg123 to see if that is any better. Though, I intend stopping
> after these two codecs - since most audio IMHO is likely to be in these
> fo
2009/2/26 Helge Hafting :
> Joel Newkirk wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:59 +0100
>> Helge Hafting wrote:
>>
>>> Joel Newkirk wrote:
>>
> [...]
>> As I said, I'm guessing, but when I removed the extra PNG images and
>> leav just one, enlightenment average CPU drops and the display is more
>> r
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:31:43 +0100
Helge Hafting wrote:
> Joel Newkirk wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:59 +0100
> > Helge Hafting wrote:
> >
> >> Joel Newkirk wrote:
> >
> [...]
> > As I said, I'm guessing, but when I removed the extra PNG images and
> > leav just one, enlightenment avera
What's your system?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Daniel.Li wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:25 -0300, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
> > since it's glibc related, why not try this:
> > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:MokoMakefile#glibc_fails_to_build
> >
> > Tom
> >
>
> Thanks for tips. Af
Oh! One more thing. You need to have 'MPEG12Sources=1' under the '[A2DP]'
section in /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf
For everything else, defaults should be fine. I also found it beneficial to
performance to set the following lines in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
lm accept,master;
lp hold,sniff,park;
It's only possible to do through gstreamer, unfortunately. ALSA doesn't
support it. (I don't even know if the ALSA API could even be used for that
purpose.. I'm sure someone with more knowledge than me can answer that)
I use debian, so I don't know if step by step instructions would be useful
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 02:03:13PM +0700, Sean McNeil wrote:
>> Matthias Apitz wrote:
>> > El día Wednesday, February 25, 2009 a las 06:36:31PM +0100, Yorick
>> Moko escribió:
>> >
>> >
>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Resistive
>> >> vs
>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscree
Hi,
is it somehow possible to send a fullscreen command
via enlightenment_remote to a application window? Or to have it in the
illume simple_menu?
Thank you
Petr
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I personally need my precision. I carry my stylus with me all the time, it's
not really a problem.
As to a predictive terminal keyboard, why are we considering the feasibility
of a dictionary with all the filenames and whatnot? Just integrate
tab-completion. Populate the suggestion list with the r
On Wednesday 25 February 2009 22:06:49 you wrote:
> So is this to say that the bluetooth earpiece itself has MP3-decoding
> capability? I find that hard to imagine. So where is the decoding actually
> taking place? And can it be done with OGG too, since it's the obviously
> superior codec. :P
>
Y
That might make things more difficult. :P Why not have Openmoko make one?
They're the hardware folks, I'm more of a software-guru-wannabe. :P
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Hi all,
Someone mentioned a finger friendly browse keoyboard, and I just could
not resist making one myself. the result is here:
http://www.opkg.org/package_144.html
Note that the type is NUMERIC, let me know if another type better suites
this keyboard.
It is also referenced here:
http://wik
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
|
|>> I don't think that they simply disable the backlight. Resuming from SHR
|>> unstable takes about 5-6 seconds (no incoming call), while 2008.12
resumes
|>> under 3 seconds.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Wednesday, February 25, 2009 a las 06:36:31PM +0100, Yorick Moko
> escribió:
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Resistive
>> vs
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Capacitive
>
> Thanks;
>
> But: Do we really want
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 11:31 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Joel Newkirk wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:59 +0100
> > Helge Hafting wrote:
> >
> >> Joel Newkirk wrote:
> >
...
> the good ones as
> well. :-(
>
> Maybe we ought to use a modified duke nukem as an app launcher interface
> i
On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:49 , Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Thursday, February 26, 2009 a las 11:38:45AM +0100, Steve
> 'dillo Okay escribió:
>
>>
>> On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:20 , Matthias Apitz wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>
>>> Default: unuseable for terminal/UNIX input
>>> Numbers: unuseable f
El mié, 25-02-2009 a las 15:15 +0100, kimaidou escribió:
> Hi list,
>
> I post here, again, to announce the release of the third version of
> Voicenote.
> Now
> * you can play the wav files you have recorded with voicenote (or
> other wav files)
> * you go back the the 1st choice dialog (record o
Leonti Bielski wrote:
> Some time ago on scap.linuxtogo.org I've seen illume keyboard only
> with navigate buttons - right, left, up, down and some others.
>
> I would like to use it for navigation in browsers - right know I use
> terminal keyboard to navigate through web-page in links-x11.
> Does
Helge Hafting wrote:
>> Just about all phone manufacturers are going to capacitive screens as
>> they virtually eliminate accidental touches in something like a purse or
>> pocket.
>>
> Won't capacitive react to metal keys?
>
No, they won't. That is why you can't use different objects f
The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> OK then. So does anyone know of a headset that CAN do OGG? :D
Can be arranged, if you get us a open-source headset . . .
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> Just about all phone manufacturers are going to capacitive screens as
> they virtually eliminate accidental touches in something like a purse or
> pocket.
Won't capacitive react to metal keys?
Anyway, this is not a problem with the FR either - I lock it with the
AUX button before it goes in
Steve " 'dillo" Okay wrote:
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:20 , Matthias Apitz wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Default: unuseable for terminal/UNIX input
>> Numbers: unuseable for terminal/UNIX, not even for SMS
>> Terminal: useable for terminal/UNIX, but only with stylus
>
> Hmmmit seems as if the proble
Matthias Apitz wrote:
> Default: unuseable for terminal/UNIX input
> Numbers: unuseable for terminal/UNIX, not even for SMS
> Terminal: useable for terminal/UNIX, but only with stylus
>
> that's the situation at the moment;
Rotate the screen, then you can have a bigger "full" keyboard in the
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:39:17 -0600
> The Digital Pioneer wrote:
>
>> Ahh, too bad. :P
>>
>> I don't suppose anyone could mod the firmware to make it allow that
>> could they? It would be a fun prank. :)
>
> it sounds to me that it would totally and utterly illegal
On Wed, 2009-02-25 at 22:25 -0300, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
> since it's glibc related, why not try this:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:MokoMakefile#glibc_fails_to_build
>
> Tom
>
Thanks for tips. After checking the above link.
I found the case is quite different from mine. Since I d
Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Thursday, February 26, 2009 a las 11:23:48AM +0100, Johny Tenfinger
> escribió:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:20, Matthias Apitz wrote:
>>> Default: unuseable for terminal/UNIX input
>>> Numbers: unuseable for terminal/UNIX, not even for SMS
>>> Terminal: useab
Some time ago on scap.linuxtogo.org I've seen illume keyboard only
with navigate buttons - right, left, up, down and some others.
I would like to use it for navigation in browsers - right know I use
terminal keyboard to navigate through web-page in links-x11.
Does anyone know where I can find it?
Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the followin logic lies behind the buttons:
>
> check cellid: gets the cell and gps data
> submit data: when in online mode, the displayed data will be submitted,
> when in offline mode the data will be saved
> auto check cellid: "push" check cellid every x sec
El día Thursday, February 26, 2009 a las 11:38:45AM +0100, Steve 'dillo Okay
escribió:
>
> On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:20 , Matthias Apitz wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >>
> >
> > Default: unuseable for terminal/UNIX input
> > Numbers: unuseable for terminal/UNIX, not even for SMS
> >Terminal: useable for
Hi Community,
I have a used GTA02V5, 850 model, I would like to sell. If you are
in the Salt Lake City area and want a GTA02 without paying full price or
shipping then let me know off-list.*
Please note at this time I am only offering local sale, CASH ONLY. If
you cannot pick-up in person
On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:20 , Matthias Apitz wrote:
[...]
>>
>
> Default: unuseable for terminal/UNIX input
> Numbers: unuseable for terminal/UNIX, not even for SMS
> Terminal: useable for terminal/UNIX, but only with stylus
Hmmmit seems as if the problem with the default is that it
doesn
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
>> I don't think that they simply disable the backlight. Resuming from SHR
>> unstable takes about 5-6 seconds (no incoming call), while 2008.12 resumes
>> under 3 seconds. While this is not a scientific measurement, 2008.12 surely
>> is a lot faster. Any other ide
El día Thursday, February 26, 2009 a las 11:23:48AM +0100, Johny Tenfinger
escribió:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:20, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> > Default: unuseable for terminal/UNIX input
> > Numbers: unuseable for terminal/UNIX, not even for SMS
> > Terminal: useable for terminal/UNIX, but onl
Joel Newkirk wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:43:59 +0100
> Helge Hafting wrote:
>
>> Joel Newkirk wrote:
>
[...]
> As I said, I'm guessing, but when I removed the extra PNG images and
> leav just one, enlightenment average CPU drops and the display is more
> responsive. The glass button effect /
Hello,
isn't it all like leibniz, newton and the differential calculus? ;-)
I'd really love to have all these ideas merged into one application.
@ TImo: I am really envious about your voice-detection-recording and
love to combine ot with my GUI.
It would not be a problem to implement all of these
> It'll just be different loglevel= or console= on kernel commandline
> depending on which bootloader and where you're booting from.
which for which and where to find information on the parameters?
and btw: is there a way to do that to an already running system, sysfs or
so? i never had any luck
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:20, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> Default: unuseable for terminal/UNIX input
> Numbers: unuseable for terminal/UNIX, not even for SMS
> Terminal: useable for terminal/UNIX, but only with stylus
>
> that's the situation at the moment;
But... it's normal, good situation. Isn'
El día Thursday, February 26, 2009 a las 10:44:02AM +0100, Pander escribió:
> > Have you ever used the Terminal of the Moko to keyin UNIX commands?
> >
> >
> > I've been using the Freerunner without a stylus for months now. And I've
> > used the terminal quite a lot, as well as inputing http
Yeah, good question :)
if you would have a complete database you can get your rough location.
google uses this for a quick location info bevor gps gets a fix. or you
can use it for agps. there you need a location in a range about 50km and
that a cell can give you. cells range is about 1-10km so th
Pander wrote:
Shawn "Trash" Thompson wrote:
Margo Koppelmann wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Shawn Trash Thompson
wrote:
Ever used an iPhone? their screen is nice, responsive and the gui is
designed where a stylus isn't needed. I actually was rather fond of the
iPhon
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:55, Shawn Trash Thompson
wrote:
> Point taken but my fat fingers work great on the iPhone and not so on the
> FR. Also it often registers my drag on the FR as a click whereas the
> Capacitive touchscreen of the iPhone and T-Mobile G1 easily distinguish
> between clicks o
Shawn "Trash" Thompson wrote:
> Margo Koppelmann wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Shawn Trash Thompson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ever used an iPhone? their screen is nice, responsive and the gui is
>>> designed where a stylus isn't needed. I actually was rather fond of the
>>> iPhone screen an
Helge Hafting a écrit :
> For example:
> telnet localhost gpsd
> r
> You should get at least one message per second after hitting "enter"
> after the "r" - whether you have a fix or not.
Already done, 1 msg/second, always the same (no fix inside, no numerical
values)
> You may also want to try
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:49, Pander wrote:
> Is openmoko-agpsui still an up to date tool for SHR to manage the GPS
> operation?
No. Use Zhone for that.
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Margo Koppelmann wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Shawn Trash Thompson
wrote:
Ever used an iPhone? their screen is nice, responsive and the gui is
designed where a stylus isn't needed. I actually was rather fond of the
iPhone screen and was very unimpressed with the GTA02's touchscree
Helge Hafting wrote:
> Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
>> Helge Hafting a écrit :
>>> Remove the file /etc/freesmartphone/persist/ogpsd.pickle
>>> then, restart frameword or just reboot. (Restarting frameworkd sometimes
>>> cause trouble with the phone side instead).
>>>
>>> ogpsd.pickle is where gps info
Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
> Helge Hafting a écrit :
>> Remove the file /etc/freesmartphone/persist/ogpsd.pickle
>> then, restart frameword or just reboot. (Restarting frameworkd sometimes
>> cause trouble with the phone side instead).
>>
>> ogpsd.pickle is where gps information is saved in order to
Michal Brzozowski wrote:
> 2009/2/26 Matthias Apitz mailto:g...@unixarea.de>>
>
> El día Thursday, February 26, 2009 a las 08:46:54AM +0100, Pander
> escribió:
>
> > Steve " 'dillo" Okay wrote:
> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 08:01 , Shawn "Trash" Thompson wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ma
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Shawn Trash Thompson
wrote:
> Ever used an iPhone? their screen is nice, responsive and the gui is
> designed where a stylus isn't needed. I actually was rather fond of the
> iPhone screen and was very unimpressed with the GTA02's touchscreen in
> comparison.
>
Th
2009/2/26 Matthias Apitz
> El día Thursday, February 26, 2009 a las 08:46:54AM +0100, Pander escribió:
>
> > Steve " 'dillo" Okay wrote:
> > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 08:01 , Shawn "Trash" Thompson wrote:
> > >
> > >> Matthias Apitz wrote:
> > >>> El día Wednesday, February 25, 2009 a las 06:36:31PM
On Feb 26, 2009, at 09:01 , Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Thursday, February 26, 2009 a las 08:46:54AM +0100, Pander
> escribió:
>
>> Steve " 'dillo" Okay wrote:
>>> On Feb 26, 2009, at 08:01 , Shawn "Trash" Thompson wrote:
>>>
Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Wednesday, February 25, 20
El día Thursday, February 26, 2009 a las 08:46:54AM +0100, Pander escribió:
> Steve " 'dillo" Okay wrote:
> > On Feb 26, 2009, at 08:01 , Shawn "Trash" Thompson wrote:
> >
> >> Matthias Apitz wrote:
> >>> El día Wednesday, February 25, 2009 a las 06:36:31PM +0100, Yorick
> >>> Moko escribió:
>
On Feb 26, 2009, at 08:46 , Pander wrote:
> Steve " 'dillo" Okay wrote:
>> On Feb 26, 2009, at 08:01 , Shawn "Trash" Thompson wrote:
>>
>>> Matthias Apitz wrote:
El día Wednesday, February 25, 2009 a las 06:36:31PM +0100, Yorick
Moko escribió:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscr
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