Re: 3G, etc. - is the Neo 1973 already out of date?

2006-12-07 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ben! No topic for Germany: http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/media/archive/5278.pdf Page 77, in 2005 has been in Germany an agreement that all frequenz holder can use the GSM frequencies until 31. December 2016. On Fri, 08 Dec 2006, Ben wrote: > "And just this week, the Australian Federal Pol

3G, etc. - is the Neo 1973 already out of date?

2006-12-07 Thread Ben
"And just this week, the Australian Federal Police specified that any new handsets it purchases for its mobile phone fleet must be 3G capable." ... Now of course, whether they like it or not, every large organisation will be forced to use 3G sooner or later as the 2G networks are eventually phas

Re: ideas with SMS

2006-12-07 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Richard! On Thu, 07 Dec 2006, Richard Franks wrote: > On 12/7/06, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >?cologne > >I will go to cologne by train on 10.12.2006 14:12h from Aachen central > >trainstaion. > > ?cologne.* > Have affair at 19:00, don't tell wife or bishop. > > The issues

RE: ideas with SMS

2006-12-07 Thread Stuart Gray
I was thinking about this today when I was texting my friends. I have a number of very small suggestions regarding text messaging.Most of the ideas I am about to suggest should be very easy to implement. --Selecting Who to Text-- An option to text to a group of contacts you have on your phone, s

Jabber is another topic, good for an own thread ; ) Re: ideas with SMS

2006-12-07 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Gabriel! Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Donnerstag, den 07. Dezember 2006 um 19:44h: > On Thursday 07 December 2006 19:21, Robert Michel wrote: > > With Neo1973 to Neo1973 it would become very easy to use > > encryption *g*. But J2ME would offer the power to share > > this feature with others.

Re: FPGA

2006-12-07 Thread Ole Tange
On 12/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/5/06, Markus Stehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do you think about giving the Neo1973 a FPGA? I was thinking more about this last night. My first reaction was "great", but as someone else posted, what do you get for the increa

Re: ideas with SMS

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Franks
Salve Rob! On 12/7/06, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ?cologne I will go to cologne by train on 10.12.2006 14:12h from Aachen central trainstaion. ?cologne.* Have affair at 19:00, don't tell wife or bishop. The issues I see are: 1) The feasibility of entering all of your day-to-day

Re: ideas with SMS

2006-12-07 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 7 grudnia 2006 19:44, Gabriel Ambuehl napisaƂ: > Why not go all the way and use Jabber instead? Surely that should be > cheaper than the ripoff prices for SMS we usually see... As long as phone will be able to keep GPRS session connected all the time it could be good. I pay per ea

Re: Conceptual/Data Framework

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Franks
On 12/5/06, Jeff Andros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/5/06, Richard Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I started coding this beast last night. Not much to see, but if it > garners any interest I'll chuck up on Sourceforge. There are still > plenty of things to be decided, so if you'd like to

Re: ideas with SMS

2006-12-07 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 07 December 2006 19:21, Robert Michel wrote: > With Neo1973 to Neo1973 it would become very easy to use > encryption *g*. But J2ME would offer the power to share > this feature with others. Why not go all the way and use Jabber instead? Surely that should be cheaper than the ripoff pr

Re: ideas with SMS

2006-12-07 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Oh I missed the idea that I like most "encrpyted SMS" - I already thought to start to do it with J2ME just charing 1 MB random data with a friend/partner/parents and add the first 160 chars to the first SMS, the second 160 chars to the second With Neo1973 to Neo1973 it would become ve

Re: Shiny geek toy? [scanned]

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Franks
On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 14:15 +0100, Markus Stehr wrote: > Argh, why does it always have to be some obscure object orientated > language? C/C++/Java are obscure? > I would rather like to see some procedual Basic, like FreeBasic or > QBasic, on this little buddy. I'd argue strongly against this.

ideas with SMS

2006-12-07 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! When you thought that I have to much Sci-Fi, or nerd/geek ideas for OpenMoko/Neo1973 than because on the reason that this are the ideas does belongs to the hardware development. Now is still the time to influence, motivate Sean/FIC to do some hardware design enhancements :) OK, but I'm r

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Richard Franks
On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 08:38 -0800, Christopher Heiny wrote: > Part of my day job is to nudge (or sometimes thump) the fantasies of my own > team back into line with reality. It looks like I let that leak over into > OpenMoko, too. I'll have to be more careful about that in the future. Not at

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Christopher Heiny
On Thursday 07 December 2006 05:08, bullet holes in a road sign were found to spell the following message: > I think you are generally right, with some caveat. > > It's really a chicken/egg problem. Will the carriers come first, or > the applications? > > It is possible that in 2007, linux based e

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread michael
On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Christopher Heiny wrote: On Wednesday 06 December 2006 20:28, bullet holes in a road sign were found to spell the following message: Hi Christopher, You are very right, of course. However, fantasies have their place in product design. They inspire ideas. Out of 100 (or 1000

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Christopher Heiny
On Thursday 07 December 2006 05:15, Markus Stehr scribbled in crayon on the back of a kid's menu: > Hi! > > Christopher Heiny: > >and will see C++ and Java as enablers, VHDL and Perl as barriers. > > Argh, why does it always have to be some obscure object orientated > language? > I would rather li

Re: Filtering in openmoko email client?

2006-12-07 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Tim! I'm just a student, not member of the OpenMoko SDK developer team, but just a short feedback from my point. On Wed, 06 Dec 2006, Tim Newsom wrote: > Does the default email/messaging client have folder/filtering abilities > where we can set up rules for how email/messages are handled?

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Christopher Heiny
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 20:28, bullet holes in a road sign were found to spell the following message: > Hi Christopher, > > You are very right, of course. However, fantasies have their place in > product design. They inspire ideas. Out of 100 (or 1000) of our > completely wild fantasy ideas,

no :) Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean! On Thu, 07 Dec 2006, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > On 12/7/06 12:00 PM, "Christopher Heiny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Do we really want a shiny geek toy? Something that is super cool and > > technologically advanced, but only nerds will want to hack on? > > > > Or should we be wo

Re: ui customisation for accessibility

2006-12-07 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/6/06 4:24 PM, "Matthew Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i've been intrigued by your announcements and would like to ask: > could an open platform like yours be used to provide a smartphone ui > that's more accessible to the visually impaired? I would think so. Since the code is open, you'

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Paul Bohme
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: On 12/7/06 12:00 PM, "Christopher Heiny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do we really want a shiny geek toy? Something that is super cool and technologically advanced, but only nerds will want to hack on? Or should we be working toward a solid OpenSource platform that wil

yeah flame war about program languages to use a FPGA that isn't in v1 :) Re: Shiny geek toy? [scanned]

2006-12-07 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Markus! Markus Stehr schrieb am Donnerstag, den 07. Dezember 2006 um 14:15h: > Christopher Heiny: > >and will see C++ and Java as enablers, VHDL and Perl as barriers. > > Argh, why does it always have to be some obscure object orientated > language? This thread belongs to FPGA ;) And there

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/7/06 12:28 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Until we have the wiki, I believe that Sean and the others are able to sort > our ideas into the proper categories. Definitely. We've got some _really_ long lists! -Sean ___ OpenMo

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/7/06 12:00 PM, "Christopher Heiny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do we really want a shiny geek toy? Something that is super cool and > technologically advanced, but only nerds will want to hack on? > > Or should we be working toward a solid OpenSource platform that will > encourage other p

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Ole Tange
On 12/7/06, Christopher Heiny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What exactly is it that we want OpenMoko to be? Do we really want a shiny geek toy? Something that is super cool and technologically advanced, but only nerds will want to hack on? Or should we be working toward a solid OpenSource platfor

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomasz Zielinski schreef: > 2006/12/7, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Until we have the wiki, I believe that Sean and the others are able to >> sort >> our ideas into the proper categories. > > I can set up temporary (or not temporary, b

Re: Shiny geek toy? [scanned]

2006-12-07 Thread Markus Stehr
Hi! Christopher Heiny: >and will see C++ and Java as enablers, VHDL and Perl as barriers. Argh, why does it always have to be some obscure object orientated language? I would rather like to see some procedual Basic, like FreeBasic or QBasic, on this little buddy. Benefits: More applications. Eve

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread hank williams
I think you are generally right, with some caveat. It's really a chicken/egg problem. Will the carriers come first, or the applications? It is possible that in 2007, linux based extensible phones will become the rage. We have greenphone, Access, and open moko. But if carriers feel that these pla

Re: Shiny geek toy?

2006-12-07 Thread Tomasz Zielinski
2006/12/7, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Until we have the wiki, I believe that Sean and the others are able to sort our ideas into the proper categories. I can set up temporary (or not temporary, but independent community) MediaWiki for OpenMoko. Should I? I don't want to disturb Op

Re: Adding an overview page to openmoko.{com,org}

2006-12-07 Thread Alexander Steinert
> > 3.) our micro-sd slot is between the battery and the PCB -- RF would > > be dampened too much > > Ewww. I hope this will be reconsidered for later devices. I can tell > you that among a laundry-list of peeves about my old Nokia 6600, having > the MMC card buried under the battery was very h