Re: emulator something like greenphone vmware?

On Friday 26 January 2007 08:12, Richi Plana wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 19:08 -0700, Richi Plana wrote: > > If I understand the original poster correctly, he's looking for a > > hardware emulator. Personally, I would like to see an emulator for the > > Samsung s3c2410 as well. What instruction

Re: WiFi

On Friday 26 January 2007 06:35:41 Richi Plana wrote: > I guess it's just as well that the first version didn't contain WiFi as > the specs for 802.11n seems all but finished > (http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS9415304733.html). Hopefully Intel and > Atheros come out with embeddable chips and release

Re: emulator something like greenphone vmware?

No, I don't need hardware emulator. I need "interface emulator" :). Where I can play with phone's interface and maybe onboard software w/o buying the phone. It's ok if it will be compiled for i386 or whatever. 2007/1/26, Richi Plana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 21:14 +0100, Rodolph

Re: celluar data network speed comparison WAS: Re: verizon and openmoko

On Friday 26 January 2007 02:32:53 Todd W wrote: > OpenMoko is definitely another great tool for the toolbox, but just so > everyone knows, there are already much more advanced wireless data > interfaces available. Comparing EVDO to GSM is like comparing modern trucks to steam locomotives. There'

Re: dialer interface questions

hmmm, I think all we're really doing is searching multiple lists... so I think a case could be made that this doesn't apply, I've got a vague idea about how some of the patent stuff works, but there's orders of magnitude more that I don't know compared to what I do. anyways, you've got a right to

Re: dialer interface questions

I don't mean to toot my own horn (up till June of 2006, I worked for Zi Corporation as a developer), but you should really check out Qix . Unfortunately, most of that stuff is likely patented. I'm not even sure how I can go about developing for OpenMoko since I worked

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

as I understand it, you can get more value out of the accellerometer than that in the simplest case, we know a gps can be off by a certain percent. say you leave the phone still for a long time, you could average the error and get more precise over time (yeah, there'll be some skew... but we can

Re: LiMo foundation

On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 16:02 -0500, Anthony Taylor wrote: > Well, now. This is interesting: > > http://www.limofoundation.org/sf/sfmain/do/home I would like to know whether OpenMoko intends to meander its way towards following one of the eventual standards. Personally, I'd like to see a common pla

RE: celluar data network speed comparison WAS: Re: verizon and openmoko

Thanks Todd, I'm sure the Qualcomm investors will be pleased :) Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). -Original Message- From: Todd W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007

dialer interface questions

something I've been wondering about for a long time, but haven't asked: in the interface shots, it looks like the phone is looking up contacts as you type... or maybe it's just showing a list of recent/common contacts. if it's just showing a list of recent/favorite contacts, that's cool, we can

Re: emulator something like greenphone vmware?

On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 19:08 -0700, Richi Plana wrote: > If I understand the original poster correctly, he's looking for a > hardware emulator. Personally, I would like to see an emulator for the > Samsung s3c2410 as well. What instruction set does it use? Its own? ARM? > Is there an emulator? Can t

Re: WiFi

On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 15:11 +, Tom Berger wrote: > I'm new to the list, so I don't know whether this was already > discussed, but I'm surprised (and a bit sorry) that the OpenMoKo spec > doesn't include WiFi I guess it's just as well that the first version didn't contain WiFi as the specs for

A cool device must have a powerfull e-book reader

I have ported FBReader for Motorola E680i/A780 mobile phone and I am sure FBReader author only need a couple hour time to make it run on OpenMoko if he has access to OpenMoko device. http://only.mawhrin.net/fbreader -- Using Motorola E680i email client

Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

Twas brillig at 01:17:56 26.01.2007 UTC+01 when Ortwin Regel did gyre and gimble: OR> I share your opinions but try to tell that to some OR> developers... :-/ They feel safer if they can bind their program OR> to only work with one hotsync ID, one device, one SD card... I bet it's not the de

Re: Some thoughts about the real importanted dates for OpenMoko/Neo1973 3GSM World 2007 Barcelona this year ...Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 03:42 +0100, Robert Michel wrote: > I don't think that people buy a new phone to going on holiday with the > new phone - AFAIK the most phones are sold November-January. People buy phones all year round. And those that do so before their holidays will come back and make perfe

Re: The man behind it all

From: "Jonathon Suggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sometimes it helps to put a face with a name. Anyway, found this link and thought the community might want to see who is leading the charge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRvtAAXTIlg Wow that's really cool. Very interesting to watch. The excitem

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

I'd also like to know if the hardware is likely to change between March and September. I *am* a developer, but that doesn't mean I want to buy another phone is 6-8 months :) -Jason On Thursday 25 January 2007 19:49, Pranav Desai wrote: > On 1/25/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 02:16 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > An you mean insulting people and guessing about facts helps us here? I > don't think so. > > Stop insulting I'll refrain from harsh words. > buy your phone in march I'd buy it today already if it would be available. > and show us wh

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

Pranav Desai writes: > >What about the hardware, will that be the same for March and September >? or can that also change, due to some issue with the developer >phones. I'm really hoping that V.2 will have some of the ideas that have been proposed here, especially the compass and camera. I wish I

Some thoughts about the real importanted dates for OpenMoko/Neo1973 3GSM World 2007 Barcelona this year ...Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

Salve Marcus,*! On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Marcus Bauer wrote: > On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 01:53 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > > Marcus, please watch your tone on this mailing list. > > It shall be. It? Respect is the absolute basic for communication and cooperation. > The fact that I didn't an

Re: emulator something like greenphone vmware?

On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 21:14 +0100, Rodolphe Ortalo wrote: > Le jeudi 25 janvier 2007 à 10:20 +0200, Denis Kot a écrit : > > Hi all > > I did searching by lists but didn't find anything about emulator, so > > my question is: > > is there will be something like emulator like greenphone has? so I > >

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

On 1/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please refrain from making any comments of a sexist or sexual orientation nature. What exactly would be "of a sexual orientation nature." He's not saying that you have to impress ladies. You could impress men, little children, cats, dogs,

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

On 1/25/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marcel de Jong wrote: > Hello all, > I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do > have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a > software tester (TMAP, but not yet certified). > So I'm no

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 01:53 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Marcus, please watch your tone on this mailing list. It shall be. > > You obviously didn't follow the news closely otherwise you would have > already known about > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/00.

Re: Need info on AGPS

On Wednesday 24 January 2007 17:01, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Hammerhead http://www.infineon.com/cgi-bin/ifx/portal/ep/channelView.do?channelId=-65315&channelPage=%2Fep%2Fchannel%2FproductOverview.jsp&pageTypeId=17099 They state Multiple mode operation * MS-based (calculation of positi

celluar data network speed comparison WAS: Re: verizon and openmoko

From: "Dean Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It doesn't make sense for FIC to offer a CDMA handset just for the USA, it's a dieing technology and GSM is more widely operated in almost all countries outside of the USA. Hello, Contrarily, this is FUD. The only way CDMA is dieing is because it is

Please no spreading flame wars about licence and free software in every thread!

Salve Dave and all others who loves to discuss about eggs from an unborn bird! I hope that this thread will not blow up like the GNU/Linux discussion, by people which hasn't consider that Harald Welte is behind OpenMoko nor Seans presentation in Amsterdam that making money with OpenMoko/Neo1973

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

Hello. On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 01:47, Marcus Bauer wrote: > On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 01:00 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > > Marcel de Jong wrote: > > > > > Will the developers phone be ready for usage for non-developers too? > > > > Absolutely not, sorry. This is really "release early and oft

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

Marcus, please watch your tone on this mailing list. You obviously didn't follow the news closely otherwise you would have already known about http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-January/00.html, which clearly indicates the roadmap and talks about September for mass market releas

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 01:00 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Marcel de Jong wrote: > > Hello all, > > > I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do > > have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a > > software tester (TMAP, but not yet certified).

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

Marcel de Jong writes: >> >> Those of us drooling for one of the early phones, knowing what we're >> letting ourselves in for, are the beta testers... >> > >Heh, you've got a point there. I know I'm drooling for one of those. >And if we can somehow backup the phone to do some testing, that'd >would

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

Marcel de Jong wrote: > On 1/26/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Marcel de Jong wrote: >> > Hello all, >> >> > I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do >> > have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a >> > software tester (TMA

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

I'll risk it anyway... Guess it'll be a rough ride, then, but I'm up for that. Can't wait another six months for the phone of my dreams. :P On 1/26/07, Marcel de Jong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/26/07, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marcel de Jong writes: > >On 1/26/07, Michael 'M

Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

On 1/26/07, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I share your opinions but try to tell that to some developers... :-/ They feel safer if they can bind their program to only work with one hotsync ID, one device, one SD card... Even if it does not work. It would be nice if some more developers c

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

On 1/26/07, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marcel de Jong writes: >On 1/26/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Marcel de Jong wrote: >> >> > I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do >> > have a degree in it but my coding skills are very

Possibilities for commercial software?

I share your opinions but try to tell that to some developers... :-/ They feel safer if they can bind their program to only work with one hotsync ID, one device, one SD card... Even if it does not work. It would be nice if some more developers could be convinced that selling without restrictions c

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

Marcel de Jong writes: >On 1/26/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Marcel de Jong wrote: >> >> > I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do >> > have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a >> > software tester (TMAP, but not yet c

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

On 1/26/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marcel de Jong wrote: > Hello all, > I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do > have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a > software tester (TMAP, but not yet certified). > So I'm no

Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

Hello Ortwin, On 1/25/07, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like open source and stuff but some things, especially games, are closed in many cases. What are the possibilities for selling closed software for OpenMoko devices? Will there be a central online marketplace? I think that there

Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

Marcel de Jong wrote: > Hello all, > I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do > have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a > software tester (TMAP, but not yet certified). > So I'm not really a developer, but I'd still like to get me a phone > in

Re: Free This Mailing List! (was Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone))

I think we've heard the viewpoints of both sides... In my humble opinion, this whole discussion (while it showed some good viewpoints on both sides) is a bit premature. We haven't seen any documentation from the Openmoko team that suggests that they use one notation or the other. As Sean already

Developers phone also fit for early adopters?

Hello all, I was wondering. I'm not a developer, at least not by profession; I do have a degree in it but my coding skills are very rusty, I'm a software tester (TMAP, but not yet certified). So I'm not really a developer, but I'd still like to get me a phone in March. (can't wait till November

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

On 25/01/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was > thinking, if the OpenMoko phone had an easy way for people to add > applications like the Widgets, the average user would like it. ( I > would be willing to pay the developer after a trial). I guess the most software will be free.

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

Salve Mary! Welcome here on the OpenMoko community list :) On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Mary Stovel wrote: > Just a few thoughts. I recently discovered OpenMoko while > researching the Apple iphone. I am not a developer, but enjoy > reading this forum. :) > I do not think the average user k

Re: Free This Mailing List! (was Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone))

Are you denying that you lied about people "making demands"? No one has made any "demands." It is not a personal attack to point out that this is a bald faced lie. It appears farcical that you keep adding to this thread while complaining that it is being continued. If you don't like the d

Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

Salve Ortwin! On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Ortwin Regel wrote: > I like open source and stuff but some things, especially games, are > closed in many cases. What are the possibilities for selling closed > software for OpenMoko devices? Nearly the same like with GNU/Linux. The PalmPilot hasn't DRM and co

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

michael, when did you last time visit your shrink? you should immediately make an appointment with him^W it! believe me michael, "ladies" is by all accounts a politically correct word. On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 11:25 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please refrain from making any comments of a sexis

Re: intelligent (system-wide) profile switching. gestures and events (Was: Re: Why not switching automaticaly? Re: Gesture command)

Salve Declan! Maybe is a general system-wide profile switching not intelligent enough? Of course it will be usefull but maybe there will be more possible. Declan Naughton schrieb am Donnerstag, den 25. Januar 2007 um 20:58h: > Reading this, a potentially handy feature hit me, so I'm letting

Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

Just a few thoughts. I recently discovered OpenMoko while researching the Apple iphone. I am not a developer, but enjoy reading this forum. I do not think the average user knows much about... the concept of locked and unlocked... much less open. I am your general user, looking for a

Re: Free This Mailing List! (was Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone))

>It might help things if you didn't continue to make bald face lies David. > Not as much it would ³help things² if you¹d stop behaving like a four-year-old, and stop wasting everyone¹s time with exactly the sort of ³personal attacks² you were whining about just a couple of days ago. You (still) se

Re: Possibilities for commercial software?

Am Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2007 22:04 schrieb Ortwin Regel: > > What about DRM Defective by design ? > is there a way to bind a program to a > sync ID like it's usually done with PalmOS or to a device ID? (It > should be possible to bind it to an SD card ID, right?) > Don't forget that all data

Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)

Le jeudi 25 janvier 2007 à 20:40 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz a écrit : > Dnia czwartek, 25 stycznia 2007 20:02, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał: > [...] > > Is it mandatory to use a different build directory or is it possible to > > do this under the same build dir? (I am trying, but maybe you can save > > m

LiMo foundation

Well, now. This is interesting: http://www.limofoundation.org/sf/sfmain/do/home As posted at Linux Weekly News: http://lwn.net/Articles/219062/ "To support their goal of creating the world's first globally competitive, Linux-based software platform for mobile devices, Motorola, NEC, NTT DoC

Possibilities for commercial software?

I like open source and stuff but some things, especially games, are closed in many cases. What are the possibilities for selling closed software for OpenMoko devices? Will there be a central online marketplace? What about DRM, is there a way to bind a program to a sync ID like it's usually done wi

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

If you want me to... :-/ On 1/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please refrain from making any comments of a sexist or sexual orientation nature. Thank you. > Great stuff to impress the ladies! ;) _

intelligent (system-wide) profile switching. gestures and events (Was: Re: Why not switching automaticaly? Re: Gesture command)

Reading this, a potentially handy feature hit me, so I'm letting it out. We should (and we probably will/do.. my nokia 6310 or whatever it is does, like pretty much all nokias, and all phones) support multiple, renamable profiles, defining ringing tone & volume, background image, /perhaps Bluetoo

Re: Free This Mailing List! (was Re: GNU discussion (was re:Free your phone))

On 24 Jan 2007, at 7:13 pm, David Schlesinger wrote: Where did I, or anybody else, DEMAND that OpenMoko give credit to GNU? Dave Crossland's demanded it on a couple of occasions. Go back and reread his latest messages, particularly his message of 6:13 am this morning. It might help thin

The man behind it all

Sometimes it helps to put a face with a name. Anyway, found this link and thought the community might want to see who is leading the charge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRvtAAXTIlg ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org htt

Why not switching automaticaly? Re: Gesture command

Salve Foucault! On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Foucault de Bonneval wrote: > I was thinking of BT profiles and of people who constantly move form > home to car to office to client ... > > So changing BT profile must be easier that calling a number or > accessing diary, phonebook. matter of personal priorit

Re: emulator something like greenphone vmware?

Le jeudi 25 janvier 2007 à 10:20 +0200, Denis Kot a écrit : > Hi all > I did searching by lists but didn't find anything about emulator, so > my question is: > is there will be something like emulator like greenphone has? so I > (and others) can play with phone virtualy and make decision to buy it

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

2007/1/25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Great stuff to impress the ladies! ;) Please refrain from making any comments of a sexist or sexual orientation nature. Am I allowed to reveal my gender? I'm affraid it can be offensive, too... -- Tomek Z. [E

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

On 25/01/07, Wil Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd imagine if you draw parallels to the internet, the issue of malware and viruses inevitably crop up. Just telling people "Linux is more secure" probably doesn't alleviate fears. I probably wouldn't know what to say. Anyone wanna take that on

Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)

Dnia czwartek, 25 stycznia 2007 20:02, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał: > > MACHINE = "native" will use your host toolchain and will build > > binaries for your environment. You can also use MACHINE = "progear" > > (its my x86 webpad config) and then use resulting packages/rootfs > > under chroot or qemu.

Re: Neo1973: Mobile Phone or Mobile Computer?

On 1/25/07 2:33 AM, "Dave Crossland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is proprietary software, and using proprietary software is > unethical and unsustainable. I'm sorry, let me make sure I understand you correctly: making a choice to use proprietary software is _unethical_!? I happen to use Ph

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 20:00 +0100, Ortwin Regel wrote: > The only situation where I can see the > accelerometer being really useful is where Apple is using it: For > changing the screen orientation of things according to how you hold > the phone. An accelerometer is a nice to have for navigation t

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

Please refrain from making any comments of a sexist or sexual orientation nature. Thank you. Great stuff to impress the ladies! ;) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmo

Yes it will have vibra alarm Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

Salve Gervais! On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Gervais Mulongoy wrote: > The Neo vibrates? According to Sean, yes :)) http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/000398.html Phone without vibra would be very un-civilised and the vibra allows to give some feedback to the user by using

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

I love the idea of adding an accelerometer (and other sensors) to the next gen phone. I just bought an accelerometer addon for my Nintendo DS and it's pretty impressive (even though there hasn't been much development for it, yet. The only situation where I can see the accelerometer being really us

Re: How to get involved (HELP!!!)

Le mercredi 24 janvier 2007 à 23:37 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz a écrit : > Dnia środa, 24 stycznia 2007 23:00, Rodolphe Ortalo napisał: > > > Thanks for the hint! > > Please reply UNDER post. OK. > > Btw, is it possible to build the applications in the native (build > > host) format too for runn

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

The Neo vibrates? On 1/24/07, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah.. I was using the accelerometer in my example to tell the program what the phone orientation was so that you could limit distance without having to touch the interface. If you had it set up to run from a free external but

Re: planet.openmoko.org

Dnia czwartek, 25 stycznia 2007 17:46, Justyn Butler napisał: > Sorry if this is old news, but Harald Welte has announced on his blog > that planet.openmoko.org is up. It's great to read some blog posts from > people that I didn't even know were involved. As one of persons on planet.openmoko.org

Re: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

Hello all, This doesn't have to be a feature restricted to kids. I routinely go over what is alloted by my current phone plan. And the carrier I am with isn't very forgiving. The bills pile up rapidly. Being able to define usage restrictions could be very useful as one could setup the profile ba

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

> Finally, by far the largest camp is the indifferent class. Many > people are quick to ask, "Why would you want an open source phone?" > Answers of the, "So I know exactly what my phone is doing at all times > - no secrets," variety typically get you labeled paranoid. Answers of > the, "Becaus

Re: planet.openmoko.org

Hello. On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 16:46, Justyn Butler wrote: > > Can't seem to subscribe to the whole planet through RSS though (only > individuals), perhaps I'm being dense. http://planet.openmoko.org/rss20.xml There is no link on the site for it. Anyway, it's standard planetplanet. :) regards St

Re: Some thoughts: "1GB flash hack possible? Or why not shipping 1GB directly?"

On Thursday 25 January 2007 16:16, Harald Welte wrote: > The Neo1973 is accessing NAND flash directly via a industry-standard > NAND flash interface, which is a special-purpose interface where you > serially shift in the address and parallel read back of the data. Yes you're right ! Pierre.

Re: GPS Power Requirements

On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 11:08 -0600, Jonathon Suggs wrote: > Marcus Bauer wrote: > 5mW if you get a fix every ten seconds. > > 10 seconds is a pretty big interval. Where did you get that information > from? I don't have a link at hand, but the GL chip consumes 50mW in continuous mode and gets a fi

RE: open-source Java VM for openmoko?

Scott, Thanks for the info! I personally have no preference between Java and .NET. I am also equally interested in support for ikvm on openmoko as well. There was a thread of discussion on this topic on the ikvm development email list. J2ME CDC would be just fine, but as you state J2SE would

Gesture command

Hi all, I was thinking of BT profiles and of people who constantly move form home to car to office to client ... So changing BT profile must be easier that calling a number or accessing diary, phonebook. So what do you think about having gesture recognition running to call events such as : - un

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Bryan Fink wrote: Hi all. I've been talking up OpenMoko to everyone I know, and I felt like there may be some people around here who would be interested in the reactions I've gotten. The main camps are as you would expect: positively-excited, negatively-excited, and ind

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

On 1/25/07, Bryan Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alas, I'm no marketing expert, and certainly not privy to Scott & co.'s plans. So, like everyone else here, I'm just excited and ready jump in and see what happens. Omg. I can't believe I just called Sean, "Scott". Many apologies. :P -Bryan

Re: R: Need info on AGPS

On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 05:12:09PM +0100, Marcus Bauer wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 16:24 +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > > > > 3. A-GPS involves additional data traffic and thus (potential) additional > > > costs. Does it use a normal GSM/GPRS IP-based data transfer? does it use > > > some out-of-

Re: GPS Power Requirements

Marcus Bauer wrote: 5mW if you get a fix every ten seconds. 10 seconds is a pretty big interval. Where did you get that information from? Is there a table that shows the draw/polling interval? Where is the documentation for the chip? Can its polling interval be controlled? Who is working on t

Re: open-source Java VM for openmoko?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is a jamvm package that is checked into the OpenEmbedded (jamvm_1.3.0-jamvm_1.4.2), so I think that it will be available soon after the release. Koen Kooi did some initial work on testing a CDC build, see the following link. Thanks Koen! I'm st

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

On 1/25/07, Peter A Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I reckon I'll get a few developer converts for the phone if not to a desktop flavour of linux. That's actually something I'm anxious to see. Given that it's non-trivial to buy a computer (in the U.S.) with linux pre-loaded, and that people

planet.openmoko.org

Sorry if this is old news, but Harald Welte has announced on his blog that planet.openmoko.org is up. It's great to read some blog posts from people that I didn't even know were involved. Can't seem to subscribe to the whole planet through RSS though (only individuals), perhaps I'm being dense.

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

Salve Bryan! You gave an interesting report about the reactions - thank you :) On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Bryan Fink wrote: > Hi all. I've been talking up OpenMoko to everyone I know, and I felt > like there may be some people around here who would be interested in > the reactions I've gotten. > Fin

Re: GPS Power Requirements

On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 10:23 -0600, Jonathon Suggs wrote: > There has been a lot of talk about GPS recently. There are some really > good ideas floating around, but before people start getting really > excited the BIG question is what is the power draw on the device? Will > you be able to keep the

GPS Power Requirements

There has been a lot of talk about GPS recently. There are some really good ideas floating around, but before people start getting really excited the BIG question is what is the power draw on the device? Will you be able to keep the GPS receiver on constantly without having the battery get draine

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

Hi Bryan, That's quite interesting feedback. I have only really brought this subject up with developer mates and one gadgetophile. The heavily windows leaning developers have expressed a cool enthusiasm but that will warm when they can see a product and get an idea for the sort of apps that are

Re: R: Need info on AGPS

On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 16:24 +0100, Harald Welte wrote: > > 3. A-GPS involves additional data traffic and thus (potential) additional > > costs. Does it use a normal GSM/GPRS IP-based data transfer? does it use > > some out-of-band GSM/GPRS control messages? or does it get data from > > broadcasts

Re: R: Need info on AGPS

On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 16:39 +0100, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: > Well, it does or not. The question is, does AGPS help with accuracy? AGPS is a marketing term invented by the mobile industry and their caterers. The reference docs for the SiRF binary protocol simply calls these functions "set ephemeri

To complete the memory questions - and >128 MB RAM? Re: Some thoughts: "1GB flash hack possible? Or why not shipping 1GB directly?" Reply-To:

Salve Harald! Thank you for your answer - a litte more information like about the technical based flash size of 64MB would avoid some speculations... ;) On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Harald Welte wrote: > If there was a technical way how we could have put larger NAND flash in > the device, we would have d

Re: Reactions From Other People to News of OpenMoko

On 25/01/07, Bryan Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also surprisingly, the one truly negatively-excited person I met said exactly this, "Great, so I'll have a phone that just randomly crashes for no reason." I know that he has run Red Hat Linux, and codes for a living. But, he has had poor expe

Re: Speakerphone

Salve Harald! On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Harald Welte wrote: > On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:11:50AM -0500, Gervais Mulongoy wrote: > > I am not sure how important this "feature" is for others, but will the > > Neo1973 have a loud speaker? > > The Nei1973 has three speakers in total. Two speakers for ste

Re: R: Need info on AGPS

Salve Harald! Thank you for feedback. On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Harald Welte wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 02:38:20PM +0100, Michele Manzato wrote: > > 5. Are there any known estimations on the overall (A)GPS performance on the > > Neo (esp. fix time) > > There are some numbers in the data sheet o

Re: R: Need info on AGPS

* Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070125 16:07]: > As all the TomTom gadgets prove: it isn't. GPS works pretty well without > the A. Well, it does or not. The question is, does AGPS help with accuracy? Just an observation, that my builtin car navigation, which got GPS and travel information from

Re: R: Need info on AGPS

On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 02:38:20PM +0100, Michele Manzato wrote: > Some additional questions on this subject: > > 1. Is there any "A-GPS standard" whatsoever? no. It's a broad term for many variants of GPS > 2. I have heard elsewhere (Wikipedia) that in A-GPS the computation effort > is shared b

Re: OMG wiki license

On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 07:29:47AM -0500, Richard Franks wrote: > then there is no copyright issue as the contributors have implicitly > put their words into the public domain? Public domain only exists in the UK/US common law countries. I for example, as a German citizan, cannot put something i

Re: Speakerphone

On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:11:50AM -0500, Gervais Mulongoy wrote: > I am not sure how important this "feature" is for others, but will the > Neo1973 have a loud speaker? The Nei1973 has three speakers in total. Two speakers for stereo playback of ringtones, music, etc, and one headset speaker ('re

Re: Some thoughts: "1GB flash hack possible? Or why not shipping 1GB directly?"

On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:10:11AM +0100, Pierre Hébert wrote: > Hi, > > On Wednesday 24 January 2007 01:47, Justyn Butler wrote: > > So my answer to your question is: perhaps not from your USB memory > > stick, but you will be able to upgrade the flash chip if you've a > > little experience with

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