Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Chuck Wolber
On Thu, 3 May 2007, Hans L wrote: > I know at least one simple fix for shaving off a few grams. IMO there > is really no reason to have *two* speakers in the phone. Take one out. > AFAIK Stereo sound works best when the sources are far apart, but in > this case they are essentially coming fr

Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
Hmm... I cannot find any good reason to have 2 speakers eighter. Maybe the reason is that they want the sound to be better distributed in all direction? - Anyway, you can always remove one or two speakers when you get the phone. It is not very complicated. _

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Hans L writes: >I know at least one simple fix for shaving off a few grams. IMO there >is really no reason to have *two* speakers in the phone. Take one >out. AFAIK Stereo sound works best when the sources are far apart, >but in this case they are essentially coming from the same point in >space

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Hans L
I know at least one simple fix for shaving off a few grams. IMO there is really no reason to have *two* speakers in the phone. Take one out. AFAIK Stereo sound works best when the sources are far apart, but in this case they are essentially coming from the same point in space.

Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
IFAIK, correct me if I am mistaking, the heavy parts is the battery and the plastic (and maybe the touch screen). The phone is intended as a developer phone, and it has a lot of extra stuff like gps, jTag, and more... For me it is important that the phone is solid (don't break when I drop it) and

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Ian Stirling writes: >Sander van Grieken wrote: >>> Ian Stirling wrote: >>> That's not solely robustness though, air resistance helps lots too. >> >> Hmm do you propose a furry casing? > >I have in the past proposed little legs and arms like seen in the adverts. >Fur would just be fun. >However. >

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Sander van Grieken wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: That's not solely robustness though, air resistance helps lots too. Hmm do you propose a furry casing? I have in the past proposed little legs and arms like seen in the adverts. Fur would just be fun. However. To stop it getting tangled up, it'd h

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread giulio alfano
I think is better to compare with this nokia new model, price is also interesting( in Italy) 9300i 172g 132x51x21 mm 126cc 475€ wifi E65 115g 105x49x15.5mm74cc 360€ wifi N95 120g 99x53x21mm 728€ GPS+wifi also interesting this model without phone: N800 206g 75x14

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Sander van Grieken
> Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > That's not solely robustness though, air resistance helps lots too. Hmm do you propose a furry casing? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/com

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread openmoko list subsriber
Hello I have been using for several years now a Nokia 7710. It is a little bigger than the Neo. * Weight:189 g * Dimensions:128 x 69.5 x 19 mm But the greatest feature about this mobile phone is the screen size and resolution. * 640 x 320 pixel Reading my email and attached documents

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 03.05.2007 um 13:32 schrieb Ian Stirling: wim delvaux wrote: FWIW, most of these 'light' phones do seem so 'fragile'. It looks like any drop from pocket or table might smash them to bits. Less weight generally means more flimsy devices. No. It is easy

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 03.05.2007 um 13:32 schrieb Ian Stirling: wim delvaux wrote: FWIW, most of these 'light' phones do seem so 'fragile'. It looks like any drop from pocket or table might smash them to bits. Less weight generally means more flimsy devices. No. It is easy to make a fragile looking devic

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Ian Stirling
wim delvaux wrote: FWIW, most of these 'light' phones do seem so 'fragile'. It looks like any drop from pocket or table might smash them to bits. Less weight generally means more flimsy devices. I have had the NEO in my hands and although the numbers may make if sound like it is chunky it

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Peter A Trotter
Plenty of good points well made and also some good points not so well made ;) The fact that FIC are keen to build a whole slew of devices about openmoko is great news and I hope that we will see different form factor phones as well as other devices. That said I am almost more excited about getti

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread wim delvaux
FWIW, most of these 'light' phones do seem so 'fragile'. It looks like any drop from pocket or table might smash them to bits. Less weight generally means more flimsy devices. I have had the NEO in my hands and although the numbers may make if sound like it is chunky it is not AND when held

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-03 Thread Sven Neuhaus
Andreas Kostyrka wrote: > Sven Neuhaus wrote: >> here's the size and weight of a few touchscreen mobile phones: > >> Neo1973 iPhone M600i LG Prada >> length (mm) 120.7115 107 98.8 >> width 62 61 57 54 >> height18.5 11.6 15